我們的仇恨劍有所指
我們的敵人昭然若揭
是惡魔
是基督徒
正如《古蘭經》所言 我必以你們充滿火獄
新教宗 第二集
求您讓我母親康復
我在這世上只有她了
禁止進入
你知道我一直很脆弱
圣母瑪利亞
我無法一個人活在這世上
如果她死了
就讓我陪她一起死吧
早上好 您正在收聽103廣播 Good morning! You're listening to Radio 103.
現在是6點整 又到了「最受關注的問題」時間了 It's six on the dot, time for "Questions of the Day",
我們會念出一些 when we read out the questions
讓大家夜不能寐的熱門問題 that have been keeping you up at night.
我們選了最多人問到的幾個問題 接下來開始了 We've selected the ones most asked. So, here we go.
第一個 方濟各二世是怎么去世的 Number one: how did Pope Francis II die?
永遠陪伴教宗 本鎮愛教宗
第二個 有人相信他突然生病的說法嗎 Number two: Does anyone believe the story of his sudden illness?
第三個 若望·保祿一世教宗不也是這么死的嗎 Number three: Didn't the same thing happen to Pope John Paul I?
第四個 若望·保祿一世教宗 Number four: Isn't it true that Pope John Paul I
不是給梵蒂岡的上層統治者造成了諸多問題嗎 caused more than a few problems for the upper echelons at the Vatican?
第五個 歷史會重演嗎 Number five: Does history repeat itself?
第六個 新教宗會是誰 Number six: Who will the new pope be?
過來 Come here!
跪下 On your knees.
別把我身上弄臟了 Just don't get me dirty.
我必須去換身衣服 I have to change.
我走了 I'm off.
務必把新教宗帶回來 Come back with the new pope in your pocket.
順便提一句 聽說布蘭諾克斯非常英俊 By the way, they say Brannox is very attractive.
那我就用我無恥下流的魅力去說服他 Then I will use all my brazen charm to persuade him.
別讓我又性奮起來啊 Don't get me all excited once again.
我有很多項目要向布蘭諾克斯提 I've got a lot of projects to propose to Brannox.
你的人生只有一個項目 湯馬西 You only have one project in life, Tomas:
就是給我快感 to give me pleasure.
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校對 杏仁斯嘉麗
時間軸 知之 紫夏 沒有影子
后期 漁夫
總監 杏仁斯嘉麗
新教宗逝世
瓦埃洛 不止一篇報道含沙射影 Well, Voiello, more than one article insinuates,
當然 都是在字里行間暗示 between lines, of course,
方濟各二世的死可能與你有關 that you may have had a hand in Francis II's death.
倒也不能怪他們 I can't blame them.
如果我身處他們的位子上 If I were in their shoes,
我也會懷疑我自己的 I would be suspicious of me as well.
-你緊張嗎 -我向來都很緊張 - Are you nervous? - I am always nervous.
我不是個溫和平靜的人 I am not a bland man, you know.
是什么讓你緊張 What makes you nervous?
-急性子 -我也同意 - Haste. - I agree.
當初正是因為急性子 才讓我們做出了有問題的選擇 Haste drove us to make a rather questionable choice:
就是方濟各二世 Francis II.
我們必須在返回羅馬參加 We have to convince Brannox to accept
方濟各二世的葬禮前 就說服布蘭諾克斯接受 before we return to Rome for Francis II's funeral.
你為何要讓他提前就同意 Why do you need him to agree in advance?
我們無法承受先在教宗選舉中投票選他 We can't afford to vote for him in the conclave
到最后他卻不接受 and then, perhaps, he doesn't accept.
是有這種風險的 There is a risk.
我聽說他是個難搞的人 充滿懷疑 非常高傲 I am told he is a difficult man full of doubts and lofty.
我希望第一次投票就能選出新教宗 I want a new pope on the first vote.
約翰爵士是最有才干的神父 Sir John is a priest of the highest caliber.
有真正的神父風范 明智而周全 A true father figure, wise and well-balanced.
我們曾一起靜修學習 卓有成果 We spent many fruitful days of serene study together,
那是在歐洲主教會議期間 during the European Synod.
據說他有時候會消沉抑郁 They say sometimes he tends toward depression.
難道有不存在這種傾向的神父嗎 大人 Do you know of a priest who doesn't have this tendency, Eminence?
無論如何 他成功地讓大批圣公會教徒 At any rate, it's astounding how many Anglicans
改信了天主教 這是非常驚人的 he has converted to Catholicism, a multitude.
上一次的教宗選舉他就沒有參加 He did not attend the last conclave.
我覺得這不合適 I find this unbecoming.
他無法參加 He wasn't able to attend
因為他必須去照顧他年邁患疾的雙親 because he had to look after his elderly, ill parents.
說到這個 他給我寫了一封 Speaking of which, he has written me
非常感人的信 長達36頁 a very moving letter of 36 pages,
我很想念出來 與你們一起分享 which I would like to share with all of you.
得了吧 Please!
庇護十三世教宗若是在會怎么說呢 What would Pius XIII say?
我們已經忘記了庇護十三世教宗 We have forgotten about Pius XIII.
我沒有忘記他 古鐵雷茲 I have not forgotten him, Gutierrez.
相反 我在努力弘揚他的遺志 Rather, I am trying to honor him.
我們敬愛的萊尼在初當教宗時 手段強硬 Our beloved Lenny began his papacy animated by intransigence,
但是最終 他軟化了 but in the end, he softened.
他想尋求一種折中的方式 He was searching for the middle way.
也正因此 我們才要去見布蘭諾克斯爵士 Which is why we are going to see Sir John Brannox.
他是中庸之道的行家 He is the great theorist of the middle way.
把良知放在首位 教權次之 First conscience, then the papal infallibility.
把折衷懷柔放在首位 嚴厲教條次之 First the softness of compromise, then the dogma.
可以說這就是約翰爵士的處世之道 This, roughly speaking, is Sir John's philosophy.
也只有他這樣的人 才能壓住那些淫亂丑聞 And the only philosophy that can placate the sex scandals,
才能在恐怖主義危機下穩定人心 the terrorist threats,
阻止庇護十三世被人偶像化 the drift toward idolatry of Pius XIII
同時消除方濟各二世之死引發的種種猜測 and the dreadful suspicions regarding the death of Francis II.
我們正四面楚歌 知道什么意思嗎 We are under siege, do you understand that?
正因如此 我們必須速戰速決 Which is why we are at haste.
而且我們只有一個合適的人選 And which is why we have only one viable candidate:
那就是約翰·布蘭諾斯爵士 Sir John Brannox.
是那座著名的紐曼紅衣主教像 The famous statue of Cardinal Newman!
我只聽過它的名頭 卻從未親眼見過 I've only heard about that but I've never seen it before.
-他是誰 -什么他是誰 - Who's he? - What do you mean who's he?
他是約翰爵士的人生導師 Sir John's philosophical spiritual mentor.
他來了 It's him.
來的不是他 It's not him.
我們是梵蒂岡代表團 We are the Vatican delegation.
爵士大人約見我們 His Eminence is expecting us.
爵士大人常說 As his Eminence always says,
或早或晚 我們都將應上帝之約離去 we are all expected, sooner or later.
我告訴過你他有些抑郁 I told you he tends toward depression.
大人讓我代他致歉 他太累了 His Eminence sends his apologies, but he was extremely tired
他從不晚于十點半就寢 and he never goes to bed later than ten thirty.
他期待明早與你們見面 He is looking forward to see you in the morning.
請允許我帶你們去客房 Allow me to show you to yours rooms.
抱歉 我們必須立刻見到他 Excuse me, but it is very important that we see him right away.
明天一早我們就要離開這里 We were planning on leaving early tomorrow morning.
不可能 Imposible.
約翰爵士不會打破他的習慣 Sir John never alters his habits,
即使遇到生命危險也不會變 not even in the face of death.
-這里有鬼嗎 -有的 - Are there ghosts here? - Yes.
我突然感到一陣寂寞 I felt lonely all of a sudden.
可是若我現在讓你進來 But if I I let you come in now,
以后 我們只會更加寂寞 we'll feel even more lonely later.
你的決定沒有錯 You made the right decision.
歡愉會帶來痛苦 Pleasure leads to pain.
哪來的音樂 What's that music?
是他在彈琴吧 約翰爵士 I think it's him, Sir John.
他是什么樣子 見到他沒有 What's he like? Have you seen him?
還沒 他累了 Not yet. He was tired.
他彈的是什么 是撥弦鍵琴嗎 What is it, a harpsichord?
不是 是豎琴 No, it's a harp.
-不對 就是撥弦鍵琴 -好了 - You're wrong, it's a harpsichord. - Enough.
這些貴族們正盯著我看呢 These noblemen are looking at me.
給我口 Lick me.
我們永遠不會分開的 是不是 約翰 We will never be apart, will we, John?
不會的 亞當 永遠不會 Never, Adam, never!
亞當·布蘭諾克斯
你在這里啊 大人 可算是找到你了 There you are, Eminence! I finally found you.
他們坐在那里 They have been sitting there like that,
一動不動 已經有一小時十分鐘了 without moving an hour and 10 minutes.
那是在干什么 是在做遺體防腐嗎 What is it, some sort of embalming process?
不 他們只是悲傷不能自已 No, it's unbearable grief.
墓里躺著的 是他們的兒子嗎 Is the one in the tomb their son?
是約翰爵士的孿生兄弟 亞當 Sir John's twin brother: Adam.
四十年過去了 公爵和夫人 Even after forty years, the Duke and Duchess
還是會在那里再坐八個鐘頭 will sit there like that for another eight hours.
然后 在日落時分 And then, at sunset,
布蘭諾斯夫人就會嘆一口氣 Duchess Brannox will sigh, just once.
仆人就知道是時候帶他們進去了 And the servants will know that it is time to go back inside.
您也該進去了 大人 And it's time for you to go inside, as well, Eminence.
-約翰爵士已經在等您了 -可算見我了 - Sir John is waiting for you. - Finally.
你知道約翰爵士在哪里嗎 Do you know where I might find Sir John?
就在這里 大人 You just have, Eminence.
所以 我們現在 So, here we are
不得不硬著頭皮談話 faced with the frightful task of having to converse.
很遺憾 現在還沒有人發現 Unfortunately, they still have not discovered
有其他更好的辦法來結識一個人 any better way to make someone's acquaintance.
不對 當然有其他辦法 比如說一見鐘情 No-sense, of course they have. What about love at first sight?
緊接著是猛烈而靜默的激情 Followed by amorous passion, savage and silent.
那只會叫我感到不適 That would make me uncomfortable.
所以我們還是選擇保守的對話方式吧 So let's stick with an old-fashioned conversation.
-我是... -你就是明星 - I am... - You are the star.
所有人都知道你是誰 Everyone knows who you are!
紅衣主教安吉洛·瓦埃洛大人 His Eminence, Cardinal Angelo Voiello.
你的大作《幕后之人》 Do you know how many time I have read
你知道我讀過多少遍嗎 your delightful "Man Behind the Scenes"?
-不知道 多少遍呢 -一遍 - No, how many? - Once.
因為我告訴自己 如果我讀第二遍 Because I said to myself if I read this book again
我就很容易變成窮兇極惡之徒 there is a good chance I will turn decidedly bad.
那么你覺得我是個什么樣的人 So how do you find me?
-我會說你很好 大人 -我很煩惱 - I would say well, Eminence. - I am enchafed.
只有他人才能清楚地知道我是怎樣的人 It's only others who truly know how I am.
我想你能猜到我們來訪之意 I imagine that you can well imagine the reason for our visit.
我不會猜的 大人 I have no imagination, Eminence.
為了能活得輕松一點 So, in order to lead an acceptable existence,
我早就學會了少問問題 I have learnt to pare down the questions.
那就讓我告訴你 Then allow me to inform you.
-我們... -你已經見過我的父母了嗎 - We... - Have you already seen my parents?
我想我瞥見了一眼 I believe I caught a glimpse of them.
那你非常幸運 想遇到他們不容易 You were very fortunate. It is not easy to intercept them.
他們住在城堡的另一側 北翼 They live in the other wing of the castle, the north wing,
就是為了小心翼翼地避開見到我 so as to scrupulously avoid ever having to see me.
家庭問題確實讓人心累 Family dynamics can be wearing.
這里的一切都讓人心累 Everything can be wearing here.
天氣 食物 單調 倫敦 The weather, the food, the monotony, London.
你知道我父母為何不想見到我嗎 Do you know why my parents never ever wish to see me?
不知道 為什么 No. Why?
因為他們覺得我沒有盡全力 Because they believe I did not do enough
去救我孿生兄弟亞當 to save the life of my twin brother Adam,
他們最愛的兒子 在1985年寒冬的一天 their favorite son, on a cold winter's day back in 1985.
我很遺憾 I am sorry.
如今已沒什么可遺憾的了 There is little to be sorry about now.
我父母不過做著世人都在做的事 My parents are only doing what all humans do:
把一切都怪罪到別人身上 blaming everything on others.
不過 至少我們天主教徒可以一切都怨上帝 However, at least we Catholics blame everything on God.
其實我們是把一切贊美都歸于上帝 Actually we give him all the credit.
這難道不是一回事嗎 Is that not the same thing?
告訴我 Tell me...
國務樞機卿的一生 how much of his life
花費多久自我學習 does a Secretary of State spend informing himself?
畢生 即使在我祈禱時 我也學習 All of it. Even when I pray, I inform myself.
這個笑話非常有趣 盡管我沒有笑 That joke is terribly funny, even tough I did not laugh.
-我們愛戴的庇護十三世如何了 -穩定 - How is our beloved Pius XIII? - Stable.
-但依然昏迷著 -庇護十三世是位偉大的教宗 - But still in coma, unfortunately. - Pius XIII was a great pope.
在我得知他的病情無法好轉后 我流淚了 I wept when I learnt his condition was irreversible.
悲慟心痛 How I wept!
你會流淚嗎 大人 Do you weep, Eminence?
太過頻繁了 Far too often.
比常人認為國務樞機卿流淚的次數多 More than one would expect of the Secretary of State.
那你為何而流淚 And what do you weep for?
為好萊塢愛情片 為受苦的朋友 For Hollywood romances, and friends who suffer.
你呢 你為何而流淚 And you? What do you weep for?
為世界上無窮盡的不完美 For the inexhaustible imperfection of the world.
-你肯定不容易 -確實不易 - It must not be easy being you. - It is not.
有一點我想事先說清楚 I want to make one thing perfectly clear from the start:
我愛我兄弟亞當 I loved my brother Adam.
約翰爵士 我何時能再見你 Sir John, when will I see you again?
這是愛人才會問的問題 大人 A question a lover would ask, Eminence.
昨晚 在我房間 Last night, in my room,
我強烈地感受到了庇護十三世在我身旁 I felt the clear presence of Pius XIII next to me.
紅衣主教約翰·亨利·紐曼
你覺得她是怎樣的女人 What sort of woman do you think she is?
請原諒我的粗魯 爵士 Pardon my vulgarity, Sir,
但她是個美人 but she is a beauty.
你昨晚為何沒把我的盒子拿來 Why did you not bring me my box last night?
我拿去了 約翰爵士 I did bring it, Sir John.
我放在了您的床頭柜上 一如既往 I left it on your bedside table in the usual place.
我沒找到 I couldn't find it.
不過我還是睡著了 Though I managed to fall asleep anyway.
也許這是個征兆 Perhaps it's a sign.
也許吧 Perhaps.
他們回來早了 They are coming back early.
奇怪 Strange!
大人 我們此次造訪的目的... So, Eminence, the reason for our visit...
-方濟各二世是如何去世的 -心臟病 - How did Francis II die actually? - Heart attack.
-和若望·保祿一世一樣 -沒錯 - Like John Paul I? - Exactly.
意大利政治哲學家 演說學家 歷史學家和法理學家
詹巴蒂斯塔·維柯所言的 One of Giambattista Vico's
不斷重復的人類歷史之一 ever-recurring cycles of human history.
你肆無忌憚的過分簡化令我擔憂 瓦埃洛 Your brazen tendency to oversimplify alarms me, Voiello.
當大不列顛民眾投票支持脫歐后 我備受煎熬 I suffered when Great Britain voted in favor of Brexit.
歐洲的去基督教化進程又向前邁了一小步 Another small step toward the dechristianization of Europe.
你說話已然有教宗風范了 大人 You already sound like a pope, Eminence.
而你說話像個有抱負的國務樞機卿 大人 And you like an aspiring Secretary of State, Eminence.
告訴我 古鐵雷茲 這些天羅馬天氣如何 Do tell, Gutierrez, how is the weather in Rome, these days?
我只在年輕時去過那里 I haven't been there since I was young,
那時我還是宗座額我略大學的學生 when I was a student at the Gregorian University.
-一直舒適宜人 大人 -與這里不同 - Constantly mild, Eminence. - Not here.
這里的天氣令人備受折磨 Here the weather is a torment.
所有生命最后只得學會適應天氣 And life ends up adapting to the weather.
羅馬不一樣 羅馬令人心曠神怡 Rome is different. Rome is joyful.
所有生命最后都會適應羅馬 And life ends up adapting itself to Rome.
你的莊園有多大 大人 How large is your estate Eminence?
我完全不知道 I have no idea.
大約2500英畝 至少我認為有這么大 Around 2500 acres or so would I've thought.
梵蒂岡只有108英畝 The Vatican is only 108.
管理起來肯定更加容易 大人 It would be so much easier to manage, Eminence.
說實話 我很驚訝你采用了 Quite frankly, I am astounded at the method
這樣的方法向我提議 you chose to make me such a proposal.
仿佛你在邀請我做總裁一般 It's as if you are offering me a position as a CEO.
他們只是假裝不知道 They're pretending to be unaware
這個職位所背負的巨大精神負擔 of the enormous spiritual weight that such a mission requires.
成為教宗 大人 就是殉道 To be pope, Eminence, is a martyrdom.
而接任庇護十三世之位是負擔 And after Pius XIII it's a burden.
接任方濟各二世之位 And after Francis II
會被懷疑 it's suspect.
感謝您的寶貴的幫助 古鐵雷茲 Thank you for your precious help, Gutierrez,
但成為教宗并不是殉道 but being pope is not a martyrdom.
而是擁有巨大的特權 It is an enormous privilege.
大人 我為你取得的成就感到震驚 Eminence, I am astounded at the results you have obtained.
讓所有那些圣公會教徒皈依天主教 All those Anglicans converting to Catholicism?
-你是怎么做到的 -通過談論其他的事情 - How did you do it? - By talking about other things.
多年來 這些房間都是供輕松會談的廟宇 For years, these rooms were a temple for lighthearted encounters.
人們期望神父能談論信仰 People expect priests to talk about religion.
但我知道 一個啟示性的宗教必須具有詩意 But I knew that a revealed religion must be poetic.
所以我跟他們談論高爾夫 荷爾德林 So I would speak with them about golf, Holderlin,
蒙塔萊和阿森納足球俱樂部 Montale and the Arsenal football club
以及女人交叉雙腿的方式 and the way women have of crossing their legs.
詩意 Poetry!
然后他們就會明白成為天主教徒意味著什么 And they would discover what it means to be Catholic,
意味著成為萬事萬物 means being everything,
因為萬事萬物都是上帝的恩典 for everything belongs to the grace of God.
我能聽到自己說話 I could hear myself talking
意識到我在扮演一個角色 and realized that I was playing a part.
好演員知道到了某一時刻 Good actors know that at a certain point
就是時候退出舞臺了 it is time to withdraw from the stage.
但偉大的演員會死在舞臺上 But great actors die on stage.
因為他們永遠不會停止進步 Because they never stop improving.
以及成長 我知道 And growing, I know.
"成長是生命唯一的證明" "Growth is the only evidence of life",
紐曼紅衣主教曾經這樣說 Cardinal Newman used to say.
但永恒的問題是 我想成長嗎 But the everlasting question is: do I want to grow?
我想活著嗎 Do I want to live?
你們想讓我成為下一任教宗 You want me to be the next pope.
教會如今赤身裸體 The Church is naked,
而你們認為最適合她的衣服 and you believe the most suitable outfit in which to cloth her
是我的中庸之道 is my famous middle way.
既然教會一絲不掛 在穿衣之前 But since the Church is already naked, before dressing her again,
你需要像醫生一樣給她檢查 you need to examine her, the way a doctor would.
診斷教會是一項巨大的工程 瓦埃洛 Diagnosing the Church is a colossal enterprise, Voiello,
而你嚴重低估了這一點 which you underestimate gravely.
區分在教會的身體里什么是心理癥狀 It is essential to distinguish between what is physiological
什么是病理癥狀才是最重要的 and what is pathological in the body of the Church.
大家看 There.
大人剛才已經向你解釋過 His Eminence has just explained to you
中庸之道的基本原則 the basic principle of the Middle Way.
你愿意重返舞臺嗎 約翰爵士 Will you take the stage again, Sir John?
我不知道 I don't know.
你把事情過度簡化了 瓦埃洛 You oversimplify things, Voiello.
今天是很久以來的第一次 Today was the first day in a long while,
我無法和上帝對話 I was unable to speak with God.
我想到的話很邪惡 The words that came to me were ugly.
邪惡 為什么 Ugly? How?
虛假 False.
就這樣 花兒在我眼前綻放 And just like that, the flower blossomed, right before my eyes.
我將手放在腹部 輕聲低語 I placed a hand on my belly and whispered:
"我感受到了 圣父 我感受到了" "I feel it, Holy Father, I feel it."
庇護十三世教宗 And Pius XIII
沒有看我 他閉著雙眼 without looking at me, closed his eyes and said,
用充滿恩典的聲音說 in a voice filled with grace:
"我也感受到了 埃斯特 "I feel it too, Ester.
是的 你已懷有身孕 Yes, you are pregnant,
你將誕下美麗的小男孩 and you will have a beautiful baby boy.
但請不要將這稱為奇跡 But please, let's not call it a miracle.
就讓神秘保持神秘" Let's let mystery remain mystery."
真美 真美 埃斯特 Beautiful, beautiful, Ester.
你的故事帶給我們歡樂 讓我們重拾希望 Your story gives us joy, it restore us our hope.
是的 希望 Yes, hope!
200歐元 我們說好500歐元的 200 euro? We agreed on 500!
求你別再煩我 我已經遲到了 Please don't you start busting my balls now. I'm already late.
我只能給你200歐元 200 it's all I can give you.
再說 那個關于奇跡的鬼話你已經 Besides, you've already told that miracle bullshit 1000 times,
在全世界的電視里講過一千遍了 on every TV in the world.
你喜歡嗎 Do you like it?
你來祈禱還是喝酒 Do you come here to pray or to drink?
他會先喝酒再祈禱上帝幫他戒酒 First he drinks then he prays to God to help him stop.
年份巴羅洛酒 Barolo Anversano.
-敬布蘭諾克斯 -敬布蘭諾克斯 - To Brannox? - To Brannox!
你確定他會成為下一任教宗嗎 You're really sure he'll be the new pope?
-我有個可靠的內線 -誰 - I've got an insider very reliable. - Who?
-我妻子 -你的計劃真高明 湯馬西 - My wife. - Your plan is brilliant, Tomas.
你給"精明算計"這個詞增光添彩 You give a new luster to the term wheeler-dealer.
我不明白你怎么這么確定 I still don't understand why you are so sure
你能得到布蘭諾克斯的青睞 you can get into Brannox's good graces.
放輕松 圭恰迪尼 放輕松 Relax, Guicciardini. Relax.
我是經濟和財政部長 I am the Minister of Economy and Finance.
你不知道我有曝光率有多高嗎 Do you realize how exposed I am?
請別跟我說放輕松 So please don't tell me to relax
這樣只會讓我更心煩 because that only makes me more upset.
圭恰迪尼 重點是 Guicciardini, look the point is this:
不是我想得到布蘭諾克斯的青睞 it's not me who will want to get into Brannox's good graces.
而是布蘭諾克斯 新教宗 It's Brannox, the new pope,
希望討得我的歡心 who will want to get into my good graces.
我不明白 I don't understand.
在梵蒂岡 知道教宗秘密的人 In the Vatican, whoever knows the pope's secret
才是實際上的教宗 becomes in reality the pope.
你猜猜 唯一一個 Now, guess who the only person is
知道教宗不可言說的秘密的人是誰 who knows the pope's unspeakable secret?
你嗎 You?
作為一個民粹主義者 你學得很快 杜伊尤 You're a quick learner, Dullio, for a populist.
這個秘密是什么 What's the secret?
你能想象這些照片 Can you picture these photos
被印在火機 鑰匙扣 煙灰缸上嗎 on lighters, key chains, ashtrays?
我能想象這些教宗周邊能大賣一筆 你呢 I can imagine a healthy sale of papal gadgets. Can't you?
我想得更遠 I am thinking bigger than that.
我能想象到大量的靈魂買賣 I can imagine a healthy trade of souls.
他最后真的說了"我不知道" He did finally say "I don't know."
要我說 "我不知道"意思就是"是的" If you ask me, "I don't know" means "Yes."
但他依舊非常小心 膽怯 他在研究我們 But he is still so wary, so diffident. He's studying us.
但應該是我們研究他 But we are supposed to be studying him.
有什么可研究的 What is there to study?
他有一切成為偉大的教宗的潛質 He has all the necessary qualifications to make a great pope:
讓人昏昏欲睡的平靜 the soporific calm
完美契合梵蒂岡的節奏 that is in perfect harmony with the Vatican's heartbeat.
他的個人魅力能讓大家忘記不久前的事 The charisma to make people forget the recent past.
他在道德上無功無過 能平息當前的動蕩 The moral equilibrium to defuse the turbulence of the present.
-那將來呢 -別這么天真了 阿吉雷 - And what about the future? - Don't be so naive, Aguirre.
教會沒時間操心將來的事 The Church doesn't have time to worry about the future.
更重要的是 他令人信服 有誘惑力 What's more, he is persuasive, seductive.
能包裹住你 He envelops you.
這個人像是天鵝絨做成的 The man seems to be made of velvet.
您覺得呢 大人 What do you think, Eminence?
我覺得我們得快點了 我們沒多少時間 I think we have to hurry. We don't have much time.
我們得直接問 讓我去談吧 We must raise the question directly. Leave the talking to me.
女士 大人 約翰爵士想和你們談談 Ma'am, Eminences, Sir John would like to speak with you.
大人 我能單獨和您談談嗎 But Eminence, might I have a word, in private?
我從約翰爵士小時候起就一直在照顧他 I have been looking after Sir John since he was a boy.
他是個了不起的人 He is a magnificent person,
但同時他也很脆弱 but he is also fragile, delicate.
就像是一件瓷器 A piece of porcelain.
由偉大的藝術家塑造 美麗 精致 Beautiful, glazed, and molded by great artists,
但本質上是件瓷器 but a piece of porcelain nevertheless.
他的生活背負著令人心碎的悲傷 His life has been burdened with crippling sorrows
以及無法言說的失望 and unspeakable disappointments.
我們不會成為另一次失望 We will not be another disappointment.
約翰爵士會在第一輪投票中成為教宗的 Sir John will become pope at the first round of voting.
這會是史上最迅速的一次教宗選舉 我保證 It will be the swiftest conclave in history. I promise.
-我是一個脆弱的人 -是的 一件瓷器 - I am a fragile, delicate man. - True. A piece of porcelain.
-對嗎 -一件漂亮的瓷器 - Am I right? - A beautiful piece of porcelain.
也許你們需要的是一個鋼鐵般的人 Perhaps what you need is a man of steel.
不 那是世俗政權和愚人所需要的 No. That is what lay governments and stupid people need.
我們是教會 約翰爵士 我們的職責是愛 We are the Church, Sir John. Our duty is love.
-你知道我渴望什么嗎 -什么 - Do you know what I crave? - What?
我渴望你會和我提起這種"愛" That you would speak to me of this love.
我實話實說 約翰爵士 Now I will truly be honest, Sir John.
我不太擅長這個話題 I am rather weak on that topic.
可能會把一切都毀了 I would risk ruining everything.
這樣的話 In that case,
也許古鐵雷茲大人可以和我談談"愛" perhaps Monsegnor Gutierrez will speak to me of love.
愛是一個抽象的概念 但也是必不可少的 Love is an abstract concept but a necessary one.
如同幸福 如同才智 Like happiness, like intelligence...
如同上帝 Like God.
我小時候... When I was a boy...
被一個男人猥褻 a man took advantage of me.
在那期間 他會說 And as he did so, he would say:
"上帝是不存在的" "God does not exist."
而我會代替上帝回答 And I would answer back, in God's place:
"即便祂不存在 "Even if He doesn't exist,
我們也非常需要相信祂就在那里" we desperately need to believe He is there."
你呢 大人 在你眼中愛是什么 And you, Eminence? What is love to you?
一個流浪漢倒在街角 奄奄一息 A vagrant lays dying on a street corner.
政府對他說 "我會幫你的" The government says to him: I'll help you.
醫生對他說 "我會治好你的" The doctor says to him: I'll cure you.
他的女兒對他說 "我會給你錢的" His daughter says to him: I'll give you money.
他的朋友對他說 "我會和你分享我的葡萄酒" His friend says to him: I'll share my wine with you.
而教會什么都沒對他說 And the Church says nothing to him.
教會把他放在了心上 The Church is thinking about him.
您會接受嗎 大人 Would you accept, Eminence?
今晚我會搜尋隱藏在我心中的答案 Tonight I will search for the answer hidden in my heart.
今晚 教會把那個流浪漢放在了心上 Tonight the Church is thinking about that vagrant.
而我會把教會放在心上 And I will be thinking about the Church.
我們的仇恨劍有所指
我們的敵人昭然若揭
是惡魔
是基督徒
正如《古蘭經》所言
他們中凡是順從你的 我必以你們充滿火獄