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Harlem New York City in ever-evolving

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Harlem New York City in ever-evolving
 

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Harlem New York City in ever-evolving
community and a touchstone for American

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community and a touchstone for American
 

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community and a touchstone for American
culture my guest was born here in 1919

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culture my guest was born here in 1919
 

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culture my guest was born here in 1919
at age 12 she started working performing

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at age 12 she started working performing
 

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at age 12 she started working performing
as a dancer and she hasn't stopped how

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as a dancer and she hasn't stopped how
 

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as a dancer and she hasn't stopped how
many people at 90 years old can make a

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many people at 90 years old can make a
 

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many people at 90 years old can make a
living involved with dancing me and in

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living involved with dancing me and in
 

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living involved with dancing me and in
her life Norma Miller's made history as

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her life Norma Miller's made history as
 

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her life Norma Miller's made history as
the queen of Swing dancing she reigned

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the queen of Swing dancing she reigned
 

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the queen of Swing dancing she reigned
through an historic era at Harlem Savoy

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through an historic era at Harlem Savoy
 

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through an historic era at Harlem Savoy
Ballroom in the 1930s when pulsating

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Ballroom in the 1930s when pulsating
 

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Ballroom in the 1930s when pulsating
big-band swing music brought blacks and

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big-band swing music brought blacks and
 

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big-band swing music brought blacks and
whites together on the dance floor and

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whites together on the dance floor and
 

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whites together on the dance floor and
over the years she also fought the color

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over the years she also fought the color
 

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over the years she also fought the color
barrier alongside friends like Louis

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barrier alongside friends like Louis
 

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barrier alongside friends like Louis
Armstrong and Sammy Davis jr. we met at

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Armstrong and Sammy Davis jr. we met at
 

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Armstrong and Sammy Davis jr. we met at
Harlem's historic Lenox lounge

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Harlem's historic Lenox lounge
 

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Harlem's historic Lenox lounge
New York's last surviving Club from the

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New York's last surviving Club from the
 

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New York's last surviving Club from the
swing era where Norma was displaying yet

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swing era where Norma was displaying yet
 

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swing era where Norma was displaying yet
another Talent stand-up comedy maad to

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another Talent stand-up comedy maad to
 

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another Talent stand-up comedy maad to
me dating men my age

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me dating men my age
 

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me dating men my age
this sucker be chasing me around the

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this sucker be chasing me around the
 

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this sucker be chasing me around the
room and by the time he caught me he

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room and by the time he caught me he
 

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room and by the time he caught me he
done forgot what he was chasing before

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done forgot what he was chasing before
 

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done forgot what he was chasing before
we sat down to talk about our

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we sat down to talk about our
 

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we sat down to talk about our
groundbreaking career and what's kept

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groundbreaking career and what's kept
 

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groundbreaking career and what's kept
her going all these years non-stop she's

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her going all these years non-stop she's
 

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her going all these years non-stop she's
got the beat Norma yeah welcome to my

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got the beat Norma yeah welcome to my
 

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got the beat Norma yeah welcome to my
generation thank you

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generation thank you
 

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generation thank you
now first thing I'm wondering about is a

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now first thing I'm wondering about is a
 

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now first thing I'm wondering about is a
lot of people start working in their

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lot of people start working in their
 

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lot of people start working in their
youth they're 12 years old 13 years old

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youth they're 12 years old 13 years old
 

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youth they're 12 years old 13 years old
they could be a ventriloquist they could

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they could be a ventriloquist they could
 

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they could be a ventriloquist they could
be working on the farm there could be a

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be working on the farm there could be a
 

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be working on the farm there could be a
painter but very few are still doing it

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painter but very few are still doing it
 

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painter but very few are still doing it
80 years later what has been the driving

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80 years later what has been the driving
 

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80 years later what has been the driving
force that's kept you going all these

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force that's kept you going all these
 

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force that's kept you going all these
years because it's the only thing

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years because it's the only thing
 

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years because it's the only thing
anybody paid me to do I couldn't do

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anybody paid me to do I couldn't do
 

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anybody paid me to do I couldn't do
anything else so I've danced all my life

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anything else so I've danced all my life
 

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anything else so I've danced all my life
because I always got paid I was a

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because I always got paid I was a
 

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because I always got paid I was a
professional dancer who got paid and

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professional dancer who got paid and
 

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professional dancer who got paid and
that was why I continued doing it and it

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that was why I continued doing it and it
 

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that was why I continued doing it and it
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was always through dancing that I was
 

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was always through dancing that I was
able to make a living so when I wasn't

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able to make a living so when I wasn't
 

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able to make a living so when I wasn't
physically able to perform certain ways

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physically able to perform certain ways
 

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physically able to perform certain ways
I began producing dancing writing about

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I began producing dancing writing about
 

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I began producing dancing writing about
dancing creating dancing so dancing has

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dancing creating dancing so dancing has
 

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dancing creating dancing so dancing has
always been a part of my life up until

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always been a part of my life up until
 

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always been a part of my life up until
I'm 90 well okay but beyond that beyond

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I'm 90 well okay but beyond that beyond
 

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I'm 90 well okay but beyond that beyond
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the paycheck because
 

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the paycheck because
don't like to get a patron there has to

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don't like to get a patron there has to
 

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don't like to get a patron there has to
be some other force within you that's

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be some other force within you that's
 

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be some other force within you that's
kept you going all these years because I

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kept you going all these years because I
 

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kept you going all these years because I
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love doing what I was doing
 

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love doing what I was doing
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see when you love doing what you're
 

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see when you love doing what you're
doing it's not work it's a joy and

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doing it's not work it's a joy and
 

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doing it's not work it's a joy and
dancing was always a joy and of course I

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dancing was always a joy and of course I
 

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dancing was always a joy and of course I
came along with just the best music in

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came along with just the best music in
 

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came along with just the best music in
the world I never wanted it to end so I

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the world I never wanted it to end so I
 

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the world I never wanted it to end so I
kept creating they see over and over and

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kept creating they see over and over and
 

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kept creating they see over and over and
over again and that's basically why even

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over again and that's basically why even
 

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over again and that's basically why even
today I still create basic but simple is

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today I still create basic but simple is
 

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today I still create basic but simple is
that I love the music the music is very

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that I love the music the music is very
 

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that I love the music the music is very
perform and when I watch you perform I I

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perform and when I watch you perform I I
 

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perform and when I watch you perform I I
can see the music in you so let me ask

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can see the music in you so let me ask
 

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can see the music in you so let me ask
you this when your swing dancing right

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you this when your swing dancing right
 

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you this when your swing dancing right
go back let's go when your swing dancing

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go back let's go when your swing dancing
 

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go back let's go when your swing dancing
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you're flying through the air you're
 

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you're flying through the air you're
sailing across the floor what does that

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sailing across the floor what does that
 

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sailing across the floor what does that
feel like because we were creating

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feel like because we were creating
 

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feel like because we were creating
something in America that no one has

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something in America that no one has
 

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something in America that no one has
ever done before we created a dance here

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ever done before we created a dance here
 

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ever done before we created a dance here
in Arlen so we were the best at it you

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in Arlen so we were the best at it you
 

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in Arlen so we were the best at it you
got to remember when you're the best at

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got to remember when you're the best at
 

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got to remember when you're the best at
it you just don't want it to end but

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it you just don't want it to end but
 

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it you just don't want it to end but
physically what does it feel like it's

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physically what does it feel like it's
 

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physically what does it feel like it's
right because we were in heaven we were

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right because we were in heaven we were
 

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right because we were in heaven we were
the best remember but at the top of the

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the best remember but at the top of the
 

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the best remember but at the top of the
top of the chart we played Radio City we

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top of the chart we played Radio City we
 

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top of the chart we played Radio City we
played the capital we played Holly you

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played the capital we played Holly you
 

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played the capital we played Holly you
can't get better than that so we never I

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can't get better than that so we never I
 

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can't get better than that so we never I
always tried to find a way to keep it

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always tried to find a way to keep it
 

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always tried to find a way to keep it
going what what made you fall in love

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going what what made you fall in love
 

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going what what made you fall in love
with swing dancing what was there about

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with swing dancing what was there about
 

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with swing dancing what was there about
the movement the music that made you

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the movement the music that made you
 

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the movement the music that made you
fall in love that's music that mo the

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fall in love that's music that mo the
 

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fall in love that's music that mo the
whole swing era was just the most

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whole swing era was just the most
 

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whole swing era was just the most
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perfect era from 1935 the first Harvest
 

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perfect era from 1935 the first Harvest
Moon ball we had here in New York it was

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Moon ball we had here in New York it was
 

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Moon ball we had here in New York it was
just the greatest music in the world

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just the greatest music in the world
 

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just the greatest music in the world
nothing ever taught that nothing ever

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nothing ever taught that nothing ever
 

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nothing ever taught that nothing ever
nothing but they remember nobody was

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nothing but they remember nobody was
 

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nothing but they remember nobody was
ever better than we were

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ever better than we were
 

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ever better than we were
let's compare swing dancing to other

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let's compare swing dancing to other
 

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let's compare swing dancing to other
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kinds of dances in terms of degree of
 

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kinds of dances in terms of degree of
difficulty ballet top modern dancing how

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difficulty ballet top modern dancing how
 

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difficulty ballet top modern dancing how
to swing stand up well you've got to

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to swing stand up well you've got to
 

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to swing stand up well you've got to
understand when I was in a swing dancer

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understand when I was in a swing dancer
 

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understand when I was in a swing dancer
and the dancing sort of faded out I

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and the dancing sort of faded out I
 

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and the dancing sort of faded out I
decided to in

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decided to in
 

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decided to in
roll in one of the greatest schools here

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roll in one of the greatest schools here
 

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roll in one of the greatest schools here
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in New York called a new dance group
 

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in New York called a new dance group
what was created by the top teachers in

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what was created by the top teachers in
 

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what was created by the top teachers in
New York so I became a student of these

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New York so I became a student of these
 

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New York so I became a student of these
dances and I studied and you're home Oh

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dances and I studied and you're home Oh
 

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dances and I studied and you're home Oh
child's Weidman and then I ran into a

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child's Weidman and then I ran into a
 

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child's Weidman and then I ran into a
dancer called Martha Graham and it was

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dancer called Martha Graham and it was
 

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dancer called Martha Graham and it was
the most excruciating

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the most excruciating
 

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the most excruciating
time in my life that I decided after six

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time in my life that I decided after six
 

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time in my life that I decided after six
months with Martha Graham Hannya home

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months with Martha Graham Hannya home
 

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months with Martha Graham Hannya home
and the new dance group I quit and went

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and the new dance group I quit and went
 

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and the new dance group I quit and went
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back up here to Harlem and work back at
 

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back up here to Harlem and work back at
smalls paradise and Sun back dancing

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smalls paradise and Sun back dancing
 

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smalls paradise and Sun back dancing
jazz which was the type of music I

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jazz which was the type of music I
 

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jazz which was the type of music I
danced to and it was the only dance for

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danced to and it was the only dance for
 

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danced to and it was the only dance for
me and I've been doing it ever since you

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me and I've been doing it ever since you
 

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me and I've been doing it ever since you
think that swing dancing is more

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think that swing dancing is more
 

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think that swing dancing is more
difficult than modern dancing dancing is

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difficult than modern dancing dancing is
 

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difficult than modern dancing dancing is
more difficult swing is natural it's not

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more difficult swing is natural it's not
 

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more difficult swing is natural it's not
a problem but when you have to go to

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a problem but when you have to go to
 

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a problem but when you have to go to
what Martha Graham was doing that to me

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what Martha Graham was doing that to me
 

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what Martha Graham was doing that to me
was the worst that ever I just never

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was the worst that ever I just never
 

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was the worst that ever I just never
encountered such pain I mean I quit and

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encountered such pain I mean I quit and
 

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encountered such pain I mean I quit and
I went back to jazz and I was doing it

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I went back to jazz and I was doing it
 

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I went back to jazz and I was doing it
ever since

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ever since
 

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ever since
all right let's let's talk about another

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all right let's let's talk about another
 

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all right let's let's talk about another
component of your longevity another

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component of your longevity another
 

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component of your longevity another
component of your success there have

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component of your success there have
 

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component of your success there have
been recent psychological studies that

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been recent psychological studies that
 

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been recent psychological studies that
are linking happiness success and

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are linking happiness success and
 

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are linking happiness success and
longevity are you have you always been a

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longevity are you have you always been a
 

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longevity are you have you always been a
naturally happy person or at some of you

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naturally happy person or at some of you
 

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naturally happy person or at some of you
trained yourself no dancing always was a

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trained yourself no dancing always was a
 

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trained yourself no dancing always was a
happy moment for me so do that what you

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happy moment for me so do that what you
 

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happy moment for me so do that what you
love it's not a job asked Louie

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love it's not a job asked Louie
 

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love it's not a job asked Louie
Armstrong he'll tell you the same thing

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Armstrong he'll tell you the same thing
 

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Armstrong he'll tell you the same thing
it's when you enjoy doing what you're

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it's when you enjoy doing what you're
 

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it's when you enjoy doing what you're
doing

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doing
 

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doing
you don't even know you're doing it what

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you don't even know you're doing it what
 

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you don't even know you're doing it what
would you say that you learned from

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would you say that you learned from
 

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would you say that you learned from
Louis Armstrong that enabled you to

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Louis Armstrong that enabled you to
 

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Louis Armstrong that enabled you to
continue going the way you've been going

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continue going the way you've been going
 

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continue going the way you've been going
I met Louie on Sparrow in 1939 in a show

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I met Louie on Sparrow in 1939 in a show
 

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I met Louie on Sparrow in 1939 in a show
here in New York at the city center

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here in New York at the city center
 

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here in New York at the city center
called swing of their dream and the show

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called swing of their dream and the show
 

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called swing of their dream and the show
was the biggest flop that ever happened

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was the biggest flop that ever happened
 

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was the biggest flop that ever happened
on Broadway and I mean it was a big

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on Broadway and I mean it was a big
 

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on Broadway and I mean it was a big
Turkey and I was crying because I

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Turkey and I was crying because I
 

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Turkey and I was crying because I
couldn't believe a show like this could

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couldn't believe a show like this could
 

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couldn't believe a show like this could
fold and it was Louis Armstrong who said

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fold and it was Louis Armstrong who said
 

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fold and it was Louis Armstrong who said
to me never cry about a show

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to me never cry about a show
 

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to me never cry about a show
baby there's always gonna be another one

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baby there's always gonna be another one
 

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baby there's always gonna be another one
and that was 1939 and how has that

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and that was 1939 and how has that
 

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and that was 1939 and how has that
served you all my life how so because

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served you all my life how so because
 

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served you all my life how so because
there's always going to be another show

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there's always going to be another show
 

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there's always going to be another show
how many shows that I do since then I

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how many shows that I do since then I
 

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how many shows that I do since then I
was with Duke Ellington jump for joy

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was with Duke Ellington jump for joy
 

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was with Duke Ellington jump for joy
which was a great time and it was I was

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which was a great time and it was I was
 

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which was a great time and it was I was
with Louie Armstrong and then I was with

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with Louie Armstrong and then I was with
 

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with Louie Armstrong and then I was with
base E which was just the greatest time

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base E which was just the greatest time
 

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base E which was just the greatest time
and nothing could ever compare to Count

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and nothing could ever compare to Count
 

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and nothing could ever compare to Count
Basie when you have an opportunity to

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Basie when you have an opportunity to
 

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Basie when you have an opportunity to
dance to that music it was just

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dance to that music it was just
 

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dance to that music it was just
wonderful

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wonderful
 

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wonderful
someone watching right now says you know

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someone watching right now says you know
 

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someone watching right now says you know
I want to be doing the same thing

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I want to be doing the same thing
 

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I want to be doing the same thing
Norma's doing but in my field I'm not

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Norma's doing but in my field I'm not
 

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Norma's doing but in my field I'm not
I'm not a dancer I'm doing something

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I'm not a dancer I'm doing something
 

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I'm not a dancer I'm doing something
else I want to keep going until I'm 90

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else I want to keep going until I'm 90
 

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else I want to keep going until I'm 90
91 92 93 what kind of like psychological

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91 92 93 what kind of like psychological
 

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91 92 93 what kind of like psychological
tips advice what kind of tips would you

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tips advice what kind of tips would you
 

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tips advice what kind of tips would you
offer to somebody who wants to really go

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offer to somebody who wants to really go
 

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offer to somebody who wants to really go
nonstop like you you have to love what

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nonstop like you you have to love what
 

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nonstop like you you have to love what
you're doing the word is love that's all

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you're doing the word is love that's all
 

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you're doing the word is love that's all
it is

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it is
 

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it is
simple as that remember we created

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simple as that remember we created
 

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simple as that remember we created
something here in Harlem that was never

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something here in Harlem that was never
 

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something here in Harlem that was never
created anywhere else in the world I was

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created anywhere else in the world I was
 

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created anywhere else in the world I was
born here I was born to this music and I

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born here I was born to this music and I
 

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born here I was born to this music and I
was a part of it and I was a part of his

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was a part of it and I was a part of his
 

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was a part of it and I was a part of his
progress and remember I always made a

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progress and remember I always made a
 

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progress and remember I always made a
living doing it I still make a living

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living doing it I still make a living
 

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living doing it I still make a living
doing it I mean how many people at 90

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doing it I mean how many people at 90
 

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doing it I mean how many people at 90
years old can make a living involved

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years old can make a living involved
 

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years old can make a living involved
with dancing me you have to hire me you

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with dancing me you have to hire me you
 

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with dancing me you have to hire me you
got to pay me and they pay me to go all

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got to pay me and they pay me to go all
 

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got to pay me and they pay me to go all
around the world so money has been a big

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around the world so money has been a big
 

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around the world so money has been a big
motivating factor all the way you got to

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motivating factor all the way you got to
 

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motivating factor all the way you got to
pay the rent

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pay the rent
 

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pay the rent
earn in New York you gotta pay the rent

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earn in New York you gotta pay the rent
 

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earn in New York you gotta pay the rent
the landlord said mr. Miller we're gonna

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the landlord said mr. Miller we're gonna
 

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the landlord said mr. Miller we're gonna
have to raise your rent I said good

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have to raise your rent I said good
 

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have to raise your rent I said good
because I can't he said alright we will

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because I can't he said alright we will
 

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because I can't he said alright we will
evict you I have been evicted so many

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evict you I have been evicted so many
 

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evict you I have been evicted so many
times I had drapes to match the

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times I had drapes to match the
 

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times I had drapes to match the
sidewalks had to throw in the comic

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sidewalks had to throw in the comic
 

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sidewalks had to throw in the comic
that's funny

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that's funny
 

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that's funny
Bill Cosby says that you're a very funny

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Bill Cosby says that you're a very funny
 

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Bill Cosby says that you're a very funny
comedian where did that come from

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comedian where did that come from
 

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comedian where did that come from
I was thrown into the mix because of red

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I was thrown into the mix because of red
 

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I was thrown into the mix because of red
fox red said your legs are getting stiff

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fox red said your legs are getting stiff
 

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fox red said your legs are getting stiff
your knees are gonna be going you but

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your knees are gonna be going you but
 

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your knees are gonna be going you but
you've got to learn to tell jokes now he

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you've got to learn to tell jokes now he
 

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you've got to learn to tell jokes now he
had a club in Los Angeles at the La

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had a club in Los Angeles at the La
 

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had a club in Los Angeles at the La
Cienega

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Cienega
 

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Cienega
this was the beginning

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this was the beginning
 

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this was the beginning
the first black comics making the

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the first black comics making the
 

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the first black comics making the
breakthrough now I'm thrown into the mix

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breakthrough now I'm thrown into the mix
 

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breakthrough now I'm thrown into the mix
there's Bill Cosby Richard Pryor Flip

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there's Bill Cosby Richard Pryor Flip
 

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there's Bill Cosby Richard Pryor Flip
Wilson this is every night at the red

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Wilson this is every night at the red
 

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Wilson this is every night at the red
fox club and I'm their emcee and I'm

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fox club and I'm their emcee and I'm
 

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fox club and I'm their emcee and I'm
learning how to be the person that can

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learning how to be the person that can
 

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learning how to be the person that can
talk and tell jokes because they always

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talk and tell jokes because they always
 

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talk and tell jokes because they always
had a Monday night was open that was an

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had a Monday night was open that was an
 

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had a Monday night was open that was an
open mic out of this came Murray

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open mic out of this came Murray
 

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open mic out of this came Murray
Langston to unknown comic kippah Dada

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Langston to unknown comic kippah Dada
 

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Langston to unknown comic kippah Dada
Johnny dark Cheech and Chong and I was

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Johnny dark Cheech and Chong and I was
 

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Johnny dark Cheech and Chong and I was
there bringing and Richard Pryor I'm

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there bringing and Richard Pryor I'm
 

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there bringing and Richard Pryor I'm
bringing them on stage so I'm learning

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bringing them on stage so I'm learning
 

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bringing them on stage so I'm learning
how to take dancing and apply it to

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how to take dancing and apply it to
 

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how to take dancing and apply it to
comedy and that's what I did I began to

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comedy and that's what I did I began to
 

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comedy and that's what I did I began to
be a comedian and we were the first all

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be a comedian and we were the first all
 

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be a comedian and we were the first all
woman comedy special that was done out

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woman comedy special that was done out
 

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woman comedy special that was done out
in Los Angeles

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in Los Angeles
 

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in Los Angeles
out of that came sound of Bernard

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out of that came sound of Bernard
 

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out of that came sound of Bernard
dancing comedy and comedy a lot of

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dancing comedy and comedy a lot of
 

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dancing comedy and comedy a lot of
people could not make that connection oh

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people could not make that connection oh
 

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people could not make that connection oh
well you have to make it because comedy

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well you have to make it because comedy
 

459
00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,910
well you have to make it because comedy
is something that I learned from read

460
00:09:58,910 --> 00:09:58,920
is something that I learned from read
 

461
00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,160
is something that I learned from read
and I wrote his first book the Redd Foxx

462
00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:01,170
and I wrote his first book the Redd Foxx
 

463
00:10:01,170 --> 00:10:04,460
and I wrote his first book the Redd Foxx
encyclopedia black humor but I love

464
00:10:04,460 --> 00:10:04,470
encyclopedia black humor but I love
 

465
00:10:04,470 --> 00:10:06,379
encyclopedia black humor but I love
being around the comedian's because now

466
00:10:06,379 --> 00:10:06,389
being around the comedian's because now
 

467
00:10:06,389 --> 00:10:08,720
being around the comedian's because now
I'm not dancing as much but I'm learning

468
00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:08,730
I'm not dancing as much but I'm learning
 

469
00:10:08,730 --> 00:10:11,389
I'm not dancing as much but I'm learning
another profession and of course then of

470
00:10:11,389 --> 00:10:11,399
another profession and of course then of
 

471
00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:13,430
another profession and of course then of
course I began writing about it I'm I

472
00:10:13,430 --> 00:10:13,440
course I began writing about it I'm I
 

473
00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,350
course I began writing about it I'm I
used to sit in the back and write my

474
00:10:15,350 --> 00:10:15,360
used to sit in the back and write my
 

475
00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,829
used to sit in the back and write my
material and I like read said write a

476
00:10:18,829 --> 00:10:18,839
material and I like read said write a
 

477
00:10:18,839 --> 00:10:22,460
material and I like read said write a
line every day and what it helped every

478
00:10:22,460 --> 00:10:22,470
line every day and what it helped every
 

479
00:10:22,470 --> 00:10:24,199
line every day and what it helped every
day seven days you'd have seven lines

480
00:10:24,199 --> 00:10:24,209
day seven days you'd have seven lines
 

481
00:10:24,209 --> 00:10:26,449
day seven days you'd have seven lines
thirty days you've got thirty lines and

482
00:10:26,449 --> 00:10:26,459
thirty days you've got thirty lines and
 

483
00:10:26,459 --> 00:10:27,980
thirty days you've got thirty lines and
then you don't have to mess with my AK

484
00:10:27,980 --> 00:10:27,990
then you don't have to mess with my AK
 

485
00:10:27,990 --> 00:10:32,620
then you don't have to mess with my AK
and I was the first opening act for it

486
00:10:32,620 --> 00:10:32,630
and I was the first opening act for it
 

487
00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:35,900
and I was the first opening act for it
and now that's what brings you to the

488
00:10:35,900 --> 00:10:35,910
and now that's what brings you to the
 

489
00:10:35,910 --> 00:10:38,269
and now that's what brings you to the
Lenox lounge right yes doing stand-up

490
00:10:38,269 --> 00:10:38,279
Lenox lounge right yes doing stand-up
 

491
00:10:38,279 --> 00:10:39,949
Lenox lounge right yes doing stand-up
here at the Lenox lounge for Paul Mooney

492
00:10:39,949 --> 00:10:39,959
here at the Lenox lounge for Paul Mooney
 

493
00:10:39,959 --> 00:10:42,980
here at the Lenox lounge for Paul Mooney
how's that for you thrilled I want to do

494
00:10:42,980 --> 00:10:42,990
how's that for you thrilled I want to do
 

495
00:10:42,990 --> 00:10:46,340
how's that for you thrilled I want to do
it so badly I taken because he has the

496
00:10:46,340 --> 00:10:46,350
it so badly I taken because he has the
 

497
00:10:46,350 --> 00:10:49,759
it so badly I taken because he has the
great oil he has my audience and this is

498
00:10:49,759 --> 00:10:49,769
great oil he has my audience and this is
 

499
00:10:49,769 --> 00:10:52,610
great oil he has my audience and this is
what I do on the side I mean I've always

500
00:10:52,610 --> 00:10:52,620
what I do on the side I mean I've always
 

501
00:10:52,620 --> 00:10:55,550
what I do on the side I mean I've always
done comedy I write comedy and I write I

502
00:10:55,550 --> 00:10:55,560
done comedy I write comedy and I write I
 

503
00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:57,860
done comedy I write comedy and I write I
write I write music I write songs cuz

504
00:10:57,860 --> 00:10:57,870
write I write music I write songs cuz
 

505
00:10:57,870 --> 00:10:59,720
write I write music I write songs cuz
I've never had a Grammy so I want to go

506
00:10:59,720 --> 00:10:59,730
I've never had a Grammy so I want to go
 

507
00:10:59,730 --> 00:11:02,000
I've never had a Grammy so I want to go
to the Grammys one day and hope my song

508
00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:02,010
to the Grammys one day and hope my song
 

509
00:11:02,010 --> 00:11:04,250
to the Grammys one day and hope my song
is chosen beyond the paycheck yes do

510
00:11:04,250 --> 00:11:04,260
is chosen beyond the paycheck yes do
 

511
00:11:04,260 --> 00:11:06,230
is chosen beyond the paycheck yes do
beyond loving what you're doing yes did

512
00:11:06,230 --> 00:11:06,240
beyond loving what you're doing yes did
 

513
00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:06,820
beyond loving what you're doing yes did
what

514
00:11:06,820 --> 00:11:06,830
what
 

515
00:11:06,830 --> 00:11:08,110
what
one more thing that's been a driving

516
00:11:08,110 --> 00:11:08,120
one more thing that's been a driving
 

517
00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,830
one more thing that's been a driving
force in your life poverty you got to

518
00:11:11,830 --> 00:11:11,840
force in your life poverty you got to
 

519
00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,620
force in your life poverty you got to
work not to be poverty Phyllis Diller

520
00:11:14,620 --> 00:11:14,630
work not to be poverty Phyllis Diller
 

521
00:11:14,630 --> 00:11:19,180
work not to be poverty Phyllis Diller
said it so it's a it's like she kept

522
00:11:19,180 --> 00:11:19,190
said it so it's a it's like she kept
 

523
00:11:19,190 --> 00:11:23,580
said it so it's a it's like she kept
going literally a fear of being poor yes

524
00:11:23,580 --> 00:11:23,590
going literally a fear of being poor yes
 

525
00:11:23,590 --> 00:11:27,850
going literally a fear of being poor yes
yes can you imagine being 80 and 90 and

526
00:11:27,850 --> 00:11:27,860
yes can you imagine being 80 and 90 and
 

527
00:11:27,860 --> 00:11:32,830
yes can you imagine being 80 and 90 and
pull in New York City scary yes indeed

528
00:11:32,830 --> 00:11:32,840
pull in New York City scary yes indeed
 

529
00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,370
pull in New York City scary yes indeed
so I keep looking for gigs and please

530
00:11:36,370 --> 00:11:36,380
so I keep looking for gigs and please
 

531
00:11:36,380 --> 00:11:40,750
so I keep looking for gigs and please
hire me Norma the concept of retirement

532
00:11:40,750 --> 00:11:40,760
hire me Norma the concept of retirement
 

533
00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,540
hire me Norma the concept of retirement
and Norma Miller don't go in the same

534
00:11:43,540 --> 00:11:43,550
and Norma Miller don't go in the same
 

535
00:11:43,550 --> 00:11:46,480
and Norma Miller don't go in the same
sentence no no it's no that it's not

536
00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:46,490
sentence no no it's no that it's not
 

537
00:11:46,490 --> 00:11:48,820
sentence no no it's no that it's not
even an alternative believe me well let

538
00:11:48,820 --> 00:11:48,830
even an alternative believe me well let
 

539
00:11:48,830 --> 00:11:52,300
even an alternative believe me well let
me ask you this but retired to what you

540
00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:52,310
me ask you this but retired to what you
 

541
00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:55,060
me ask you this but retired to what you
see as long as you can do something and

542
00:11:55,060 --> 00:11:55,070
see as long as you can do something and
 

543
00:11:55,070 --> 00:11:58,390
see as long as you can do something and
you can reach out what I love most is

544
00:11:58,390 --> 00:11:58,400
you can reach out what I love most is
 

545
00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,690
you can reach out what I love most is
I'm on stage with kids my grandchildren

546
00:12:01,690 --> 00:12:01,700
I'm on stage with kids my grandchildren
 

547
00:12:01,700 --> 00:12:04,750
I'm on stage with kids my grandchildren
I can relate to my grandchildren on

548
00:12:04,750 --> 00:12:04,760
I can relate to my grandchildren on
 

549
00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,060
I can relate to my grandchildren on
stage they could take dance like me and

550
00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:07,070
stage they could take dance like me and
 

551
00:12:07,070 --> 00:12:11,290
stage they could take dance like me and
I go every year to Louie Armstrong jazz

552
00:12:11,290 --> 00:12:11,300
I go every year to Louie Armstrong jazz
 

553
00:12:11,300 --> 00:12:14,740
I go every year to Louie Armstrong jazz
camp and their kids 14 and 15 years old

554
00:12:14,740 --> 00:12:14,750
camp and their kids 14 and 15 years old
 

555
00:12:14,750 --> 00:12:18,310
camp and their kids 14 and 15 years old
and they relate to me you don't get old

556
00:12:18,310 --> 00:12:18,320
and they relate to me you don't get old
 

557
00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,400
and they relate to me you don't get old
when you have that kind of response we

558
00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:20,410
when you have that kind of response we
 

559
00:12:20,410 --> 00:12:25,600
when you have that kind of response we
work with kids every summer and it's you

560
00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:25,610
work with kids every summer and it's you
 

561
00:12:25,610 --> 00:12:28,090
work with kids every summer and it's you
can't believe the joy I feel when I hear

562
00:12:28,090 --> 00:12:28,100
can't believe the joy I feel when I hear
 

563
00:12:28,100 --> 00:12:33,460
can't believe the joy I feel when I hear
our music being played by the young

564
00:12:33,460 --> 00:12:33,470
our music being played by the young
 

565
00:12:33,470 --> 00:12:35,380
our music being played by the young
generation coming up because at one time

566
00:12:35,380 --> 00:12:35,390
generation coming up because at one time
 

567
00:12:35,390 --> 00:12:39,190
generation coming up because at one time
we almost lost it we lost our music I

568
00:12:39,190 --> 00:12:39,200
we almost lost it we lost our music I
 

569
00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,080
we almost lost it we lost our music I
mean people are talking about rap

570
00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:41,090
mean people are talking about rap
 

571
00:12:41,090 --> 00:12:44,650
mean people are talking about rap
there's no music but we got kids in New

572
00:12:44,650 --> 00:12:44,660
there's no music but we got kids in New
 

573
00:12:44,660 --> 00:12:47,350
there's no music but we got kids in New
Orleans that's playing Louie Armstrong

574
00:12:47,350 --> 00:12:47,360
Orleans that's playing Louie Armstrong
 

575
00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,050
Orleans that's playing Louie Armstrong
music and we can't let that go we have

576
00:12:50,050 --> 00:12:50,060
music and we can't let that go we have
 

577
00:12:50,060 --> 00:12:53,590
music and we can't let that go we have
to keep that going and there's 15 and 14

578
00:12:53,590 --> 00:12:53,600
to keep that going and there's 15 and 14
 

579
00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,140
to keep that going and there's 15 and 14
and 13 year old kids playing Louis

580
00:12:56,140 --> 00:12:56,150
and 13 year old kids playing Louis
 

581
00:12:56,150 --> 00:12:58,330
and 13 year old kids playing Louis
Armstrong's music that gives me another

582
00:12:58,330 --> 00:12:58,340
Armstrong's music that gives me another
 

583
00:12:58,340 --> 00:13:01,120
Armstrong's music that gives me another
life you said something that really

584
00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:01,130
life you said something that really
 

585
00:13:01,130 --> 00:13:01,900
life you said something that really
jumped out at me

586
00:13:01,900 --> 00:13:01,910
jumped out at me
 

587
00:13:01,910 --> 00:13:04,660
jumped out at me
you said you don't get old you don't

588
00:13:04,660 --> 00:13:04,670
you said you don't get old you don't
 

589
00:13:04,670 --> 00:13:07,030
you said you don't get old you don't
you're doing that expand on that because

590
00:13:07,030 --> 00:13:07,040
you're doing that expand on that because
 

591
00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,090
you're doing that expand on that because
you don't because you realize when you

592
00:13:10,090 --> 00:13:10,100
you don't because you realize when you
 

593
00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:11,560
you don't because you realize when you
can reach beyond two and three

594
00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:11,570
can reach beyond two and three
 

595
00:13:11,570 --> 00:13:14,500
can reach beyond two and three
generations and they can dig what you're

596
00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:14,510
generations and they can dig what you're
 

597
00:13:14,510 --> 00:13:17,470
generations and they can dig what you're
talking about that's a special that's a

598
00:13:17,470 --> 00:13:17,480
talking about that's a special that's a
 

599
00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,470
talking about that's a special that's a
very special thing

600
00:13:19,470 --> 00:13:19,480
very special thing
 

601
00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,340
very special thing
and I get rejuvenated with them

602
00:13:23,340 --> 00:13:23,350
and I get rejuvenated with them
 

603
00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:26,220
and I get rejuvenated with them
especially when I had our music being

604
00:13:26,220 --> 00:13:26,230
especially when I had our music being
 

605
00:13:26,230 --> 00:13:29,879
especially when I had our music being
played by 14 and 15 year old kids the

606
00:13:29,879 --> 00:13:29,889
played by 14 and 15 year old kids the
 

607
00:13:29,889 --> 00:13:31,889
played by 14 and 15 year old kids the
most marvelous thing this year

608
00:13:31,889 --> 00:13:31,899
most marvelous thing this year
 

609
00:13:31,899 --> 00:13:34,949
most marvelous thing this year
we had a group of kids in new in New

610
00:13:34,949 --> 00:13:34,959
we had a group of kids in new in New
 

611
00:13:34,959 --> 00:13:38,699
we had a group of kids in new in New
Orleans here was a 15 year old boy named

612
00:13:38,699 --> 00:13:38,709
Orleans here was a 15 year old boy named
 

613
00:13:38,709 --> 00:13:41,879
Orleans here was a 15 year old boy named
John Michaels I don't know where he came

614
00:13:41,879 --> 00:13:41,889
John Michaels I don't know where he came
 

615
00:13:41,889 --> 00:13:44,250
John Michaels I don't know where he came
from is he channeling Louie Armstrong

616
00:13:44,250 --> 00:13:44,260
from is he channeling Louie Armstrong
 

617
00:13:44,260 --> 00:13:48,900
from is he channeling Louie Armstrong
just like him did he see he scat he

618
00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:48,910
just like him did he see he scat he
 

619
00:13:48,910 --> 00:13:52,199
just like him did he see he scat he
played trumpet I mean this is a 15 year

620
00:13:52,199 --> 00:13:52,209
played trumpet I mean this is a 15 year
 

621
00:13:52,209 --> 00:13:54,870
played trumpet I mean this is a 15 year
old kid and I mean not just playing

622
00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:54,880
old kid and I mean not just playing
 

623
00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,180
old kid and I mean not just playing
playing good but we have a whole lot of

624
00:13:57,180 --> 00:13:57,190
playing good but we have a whole lot of
 

625
00:13:57,190 --> 00:14:00,000
playing good but we have a whole lot of
kids like that oh it is the master

626
00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:00,010
kids like that oh it is the master
 

627
00:14:00,010 --> 00:14:02,699
kids like that oh it is the master
that's normal when when Duke Ellington

628
00:14:02,699 --> 00:14:02,709
that's normal when when Duke Ellington
 

629
00:14:02,709 --> 00:14:05,250
that's normal when when Duke Ellington
says don't mean a thing if it ain't got

630
00:14:05,250 --> 00:14:05,260
says don't mean a thing if it ain't got
 

631
00:14:05,260 --> 00:14:06,990
says don't mean a thing if it ain't got
that swing yes what's that mean to you

632
00:14:06,990 --> 00:14:07,000
that swing yes what's that mean to you
 

633
00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,030
that swing yes what's that mean to you
it means just that because it ain't

634
00:14:09,030 --> 00:14:09,040
it means just that because it ain't
 

635
00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,090
it means just that because it ain't
swingin it ain't listen if you don't dig

636
00:14:12,090 --> 00:14:12,100
swingin it ain't listen if you don't dig
 

637
00:14:12,100 --> 00:14:14,300
swingin it ain't listen if you don't dig
swing baby you don't dig fried chicken

638
00:14:14,300 --> 00:14:14,310
swing baby you don't dig fried chicken
 

639
00:14:14,310 --> 00:14:16,650
swing baby you don't dig fried chicken
and how could you live in America and

640
00:14:16,650 --> 00:14:16,660
and how could you live in America and
 

641
00:14:16,660 --> 00:14:22,889
and how could you live in America and
not eat fried chicken somehow swing Duke

642
00:14:22,889 --> 00:14:22,899
not eat fried chicken somehow swing Duke
 

643
00:14:22,899 --> 00:14:24,480
not eat fried chicken somehow swing Duke
Ellington and fried chicken are all in

644
00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:24,490
Ellington and fried chicken are all in
 

645
00:14:24,490 --> 00:14:26,309
Ellington and fried chicken are all in
one sentence for Norma Miller definitely

646
00:14:26,309 --> 00:14:26,319
one sentence for Norma Miller definitely
 

647
00:14:26,319 --> 00:14:28,860
one sentence for Norma Miller definitely
because the greatest invention we ever

648
00:14:28,860 --> 00:14:28,870
because the greatest invention we ever
 

649
00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:31,530
because the greatest invention we ever
created to this world was fried chicken

650
00:14:31,530 --> 00:14:31,540
created to this world was fried chicken
 

651
00:14:31,540 --> 00:14:33,449
created to this world was fried chicken
uncle of course the colonel is getting

652
00:14:33,449 --> 00:14:33,459
uncle of course the colonel is getting
 

653
00:14:33,459 --> 00:14:38,280
uncle of course the colonel is getting
credit a white man in a white suit in a

654
00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:38,290
credit a white man in a white suit in a
 

655
00:14:38,290 --> 00:14:44,069
credit a white man in a white suit in a
kitchen frying any chicken that's very

656
00:14:44,069 --> 00:14:44,079
kitchen frying any chicken that's very
 

657
00:14:44,079 --> 00:14:44,670
kitchen frying any chicken that's very
funny

658
00:14:44,670 --> 00:14:44,680
funny
 

659
00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:45,689
funny
one other thing I when I asked you about

660
00:14:45,689 --> 00:14:45,699
one other thing I when I asked you about
 

661
00:14:45,699 --> 00:14:48,720
one other thing I when I asked you about
the non-stop nature of your life your

662
00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:48,730
the non-stop nature of your life your
 

663
00:14:48,730 --> 00:14:52,620
the non-stop nature of your life your
mother's quote what was it I used to say

664
00:14:52,620 --> 00:14:52,630
mother's quote what was it I used to say
 

665
00:14:52,630 --> 00:14:54,900
mother's quote what was it I used to say
to her you see we had a very my father

666
00:14:54,900 --> 00:14:54,910
to her you see we had a very my father
 

667
00:14:54,910 --> 00:14:58,110
to her you see we had a very my father
died the month before I was born and my

668
00:14:58,110 --> 00:14:58,120
died the month before I was born and my
 

669
00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,850
died the month before I was born and my
mother was an immigrant my mother was 20

670
00:14:59,850 --> 00:14:59,860
mother was an immigrant my mother was 20
 

671
00:14:59,860 --> 00:15:01,620
mother was an immigrant my mother was 20
years old she's a immigrant with two

672
00:15:01,620 --> 00:15:01,630
years old she's a immigrant with two
 

673
00:15:01,630 --> 00:15:03,559
years old she's a immigrant with two
children and it was st. Philip's Church

674
00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:03,569
children and it was st. Philip's Church
 

675
00:15:03,569 --> 00:15:08,340
children and it was st. Philip's Church
that sorta was was helping her and I

676
00:15:08,340 --> 00:15:08,350
that sorta was was helping her and I
 

677
00:15:08,350 --> 00:15:11,519
that sorta was was helping her and I
used to say to my mother you know how

678
00:15:11,519 --> 00:15:11,529
used to say to my mother you know how
 

679
00:15:11,529 --> 00:15:13,439
used to say to my mother you know how
did you how did you do it I mean the

680
00:15:13,439 --> 00:15:13,449
did you how did you do it I mean the
 

681
00:15:13,449 --> 00:15:15,620
did you how did you do it I mean the
difficulty you know we're talking about

682
00:15:15,620 --> 00:15:15,630
difficulty you know we're talking about
 

683
00:15:15,630 --> 00:15:18,720
difficulty you know we're talking about
1919 1920 I mean this was a very

684
00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:18,730
1919 1920 I mean this was a very
 

685
00:15:18,730 --> 00:15:21,150
1919 1920 I mean this was a very
difficult time for black women in Harlem

686
00:15:21,150 --> 00:15:21,160
difficult time for black women in Harlem
 

687
00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,519
difficult time for black women in Harlem
and my mother used to simply say listen

688
00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:23,529
and my mother used to simply say listen
 

689
00:15:23,529 --> 00:15:25,530
and my mother used to simply say listen
when you ain't got a horse you write a

690
00:15:25,530 --> 00:15:25,540
when you ain't got a horse you write a
 

691
00:15:25,540 --> 00:15:28,199
when you ain't got a horse you write a
cow and that was always my mother's

692
00:15:28,199 --> 00:15:28,209
cow and that was always my mother's
 

693
00:15:28,209 --> 00:15:30,509
cow and that was always my mother's
statement and it really is true you find

694
00:15:30,509 --> 00:15:30,519
statement and it really is true you find
 

695
00:15:30,519 --> 00:15:33,070
statement and it really is true you find
a way how you do it you don't know but

696
00:15:33,070 --> 00:15:33,080
a way how you do it you don't know but
 

697
00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,170
a way how you do it you don't know but
you find a way that's been a driving

698
00:15:35,170 --> 00:15:35,180
you find a way that's been a driving
 

699
00:15:35,180 --> 00:15:37,270
you find a way that's been a driving
force always through my life that's my

700
00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:37,280
force always through my life that's my
 

701
00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,070
force always through my life that's my
new book when you ain't got a horse

702
00:15:39,070 --> 00:15:39,080
new book when you ain't got a horse
 

703
00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,530
new book when you ain't got a horse
you ride a cow you've got to keep going

704
00:15:41,530 --> 00:15:41,540
you ride a cow you've got to keep going
 

705
00:15:41,540 --> 00:15:44,200
you ride a cow you've got to keep going
I mean I got to live to be a hundred to

706
00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:44,210
I mean I got to live to be a hundred to
 

707
00:15:44,210 --> 00:15:48,370
I mean I got to live to be a hundred to
get out of debt I wanna do another

708
00:15:48,370 --> 00:15:48,380
get out of debt I wanna do another
 

709
00:15:48,380 --> 00:15:49,960
get out of debt I wanna do another
interview to find out how you got that

710
00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:49,970
interview to find out how you got that
 

711
00:15:49,970 --> 00:15:52,030
interview to find out how you got that
far in debt alright let's talk about

712
00:15:52,030 --> 00:15:52,040
far in debt alright let's talk about
 

713
00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,740
far in debt alright let's talk about
some groundbreaking things in your life

714
00:15:53,740 --> 00:15:53,750
some groundbreaking things in your life
 

715
00:15:53,750 --> 00:15:56,920
some groundbreaking things in your life
I mean truly groundbreaking things at

716
00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:56,930
I mean truly groundbreaking things at
 

717
00:15:56,930 --> 00:16:00,520
I mean truly groundbreaking things at
the Savoy Ballroom the 30s blacks and

718
00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:00,530
the Savoy Ballroom the 30s blacks and
 

719
00:16:00,530 --> 00:16:02,560
the Savoy Ballroom the 30s blacks and
whites dancing alongside each other

720
00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:02,570
whites dancing alongside each other
 

721
00:16:02,570 --> 00:16:04,540
whites dancing alongside each other
sometimes dancing with each other first

722
00:16:04,540 --> 00:16:04,550
sometimes dancing with each other first
 

723
00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:07,000
sometimes dancing with each other first
place in the world yeah police didn't

724
00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:07,010
place in the world yeah police didn't
 

725
00:16:07,010 --> 00:16:09,640
place in the world yeah police didn't
like it nobody liked it well the people

726
00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:09,650
like it nobody liked it well the people
 

727
00:16:09,650 --> 00:16:11,530
like it nobody liked it well the people
were dancing like oh yeah but I mean you

728
00:16:11,530 --> 00:16:11,540
were dancing like oh yeah but I mean you
 

729
00:16:11,540 --> 00:16:13,390
were dancing like oh yeah but I mean you
see you had the mohrís of the South

730
00:16:13,390 --> 00:16:13,400
see you had the mohrís of the South
 

731
00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,250
see you had the mohrís of the South
trying to put their Maurice here in New

732
00:16:15,250 --> 00:16:15,260
trying to put their Maurice here in New
 

733
00:16:15,260 --> 00:16:20,610
trying to put their Maurice here in New
York City and they would try to accuse a

734
00:16:20,610 --> 00:16:20,620
York City and they would try to accuse a
 

735
00:16:20,620 --> 00:16:22,510
York City and they would try to accuse a
prostitution and all this kind of thing

736
00:16:22,510 --> 00:16:22,520
prostitution and all this kind of thing
 

737
00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,310
prostitution and all this kind of thing
in their pocket their Savoy Ballroom

738
00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:24,320
in their pocket their Savoy Ballroom
 

739
00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,900
in their pocket their Savoy Ballroom
but the Savoy Ballroom was one of the

740
00:16:25,900 --> 00:16:25,910
but the Savoy Ballroom was one of the
 

741
00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:29,020
but the Savoy Ballroom was one of the
but the best run places in New York I

742
00:16:29,020 --> 00:16:29,030
but the best run places in New York I
 

743
00:16:29,030 --> 00:16:30,220
but the best run places in New York I
mean you never heard of any

744
00:16:30,220 --> 00:16:30,230
mean you never heard of any
 

745
00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:31,720
mean you never heard of any
confrontation it doesn't work bottom

746
00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:31,730
confrontation it doesn't work bottom
 

747
00:16:31,730 --> 00:16:33,700
confrontation it doesn't work bottom
they didn't allow it and consequently

748
00:16:33,700 --> 00:16:33,710
they didn't allow it and consequently
 

749
00:16:33,710 --> 00:16:36,030
they didn't allow it and consequently
this didn't rub good but a lot of people

750
00:16:36,030 --> 00:16:36,040
this didn't rub good but a lot of people
 

751
00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,560
this didn't rub good but a lot of people
because my friend Ernie said when he

752
00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:38,570
because my friend Ernie said when he
 

753
00:16:38,570 --> 00:16:40,720
because my friend Ernie said when he
came to New York and he would get in a

754
00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:40,730
came to New York and he would get in a
 

755
00:16:40,730 --> 00:16:44,500
came to New York and he would get in a
cab to come uptown to the Savoy Ballroom

756
00:16:44,500 --> 00:16:44,510
cab to come uptown to the Savoy Ballroom
 

757
00:16:44,510 --> 00:16:46,600
cab to come uptown to the Savoy Ballroom
the cab driver would say to him don't go

758
00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:46,610
the cab driver would say to him don't go
 

759
00:16:46,610 --> 00:16:48,430
the cab driver would say to him don't go
because you know how they are up in

760
00:16:48,430 --> 00:16:48,440
because you know how they are up in
 

761
00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,020
because you know how they are up in
Harlem they do they robbed you and all

762
00:16:50,020 --> 00:16:50,030
Harlem they do they robbed you and all
 

763
00:16:50,030 --> 00:16:51,820
Harlem they do they robbed you and all
this kind of and this was from his own

764
00:16:51,820 --> 00:16:51,830
this kind of and this was from his own
 

765
00:16:51,830 --> 00:16:54,370
this kind of and this was from his own
mouth I heard it so this was a thing

766
00:16:54,370 --> 00:16:54,380
mouth I heard it so this was a thing
 

767
00:16:54,380 --> 00:16:57,280
mouth I heard it so this was a thing
that was set up to just to keep people

768
00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:57,290
that was set up to just to keep people
 

769
00:16:57,290 --> 00:17:00,040
that was set up to just to keep people
from coming to this avoid but you

770
00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:00,050
from coming to this avoid but you
 

771
00:17:00,050 --> 00:17:00,790
from coming to this avoid but you
couldn't stop it

772
00:17:00,790 --> 00:17:00,800
couldn't stop it
 

773
00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,010
couldn't stop it
well it's not a driving force we had the

774
00:17:03,010 --> 00:17:03,020
well it's not a driving force we had the
 

775
00:17:03,020 --> 00:17:04,630
well it's not a driving force we had the
best music in the world we had the best

776
00:17:04,630 --> 00:17:04,640
best music in the world we had the best
 

777
00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,670
best music in the world we had the best
bands in the world and we had the best

778
00:17:06,670 --> 00:17:06,680
bands in the world and we had the best
 

779
00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,680
bands in the world and we had the best
people in the world were you aware at

780
00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:08,690
people in the world were you aware at
 

781
00:17:08,690 --> 00:17:10,180
people in the world were you aware at
the time when the blacks and whites were

782
00:17:10,180 --> 00:17:10,190
the time when the blacks and whites were
 

783
00:17:10,190 --> 00:17:11,620
the time when the blacks and whites were
dancing next to each other and sometimes

784
00:17:11,620 --> 00:17:11,630
dancing next to each other and sometimes
 

785
00:17:11,630 --> 00:17:13,180
dancing next to each other and sometimes
dancing together that you were making

786
00:17:13,180 --> 00:17:13,190
dancing together that you were making
 

787
00:17:13,190 --> 00:17:16,090
dancing together that you were making
history no we never thought about it but

788
00:17:16,090 --> 00:17:16,100
history no we never thought about it but
 

789
00:17:16,100 --> 00:17:18,130
history no we never thought about it but
T we didn't go outside the ballroom it

790
00:17:18,130 --> 00:17:18,140
T we didn't go outside the ballroom it
 

791
00:17:18,140 --> 00:17:19,689
T we didn't go outside the ballroom it
never but never thought we never thought

792
00:17:19,689 --> 00:17:19,699
never but never thought we never thought
 

793
00:17:19,699 --> 00:17:21,610
never but never thought we never thought
about the fact that it was something

794
00:17:21,610 --> 00:17:21,620
about the fact that it was something
 

795
00:17:21,620 --> 00:17:24,160
about the fact that it was something
that was different in America we thought

796
00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:24,170
that was different in America we thought
 

797
00:17:24,170 --> 00:17:27,520
that was different in America we thought
the Savoy was America you never when I

798
00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:27,530
the Savoy was America you never when I
 

799
00:17:27,530 --> 00:17:29,710
the Savoy was America you never when I
was a 15 year old girl I never even

800
00:17:29,710 --> 00:17:29,720
was a 15 year old girl I never even
 

801
00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,960
was a 15 year old girl I never even
thought about the fact that because all

802
00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:31,970
thought about the fact that because all
 

803
00:17:31,970 --> 00:17:33,850
thought about the fact that because all
my life I've always seen white people in

804
00:17:33,850 --> 00:17:33,860
my life I've always seen white people in
 

805
00:17:33,860 --> 00:17:36,700
my life I've always seen white people in
Harlem that's all you saw at night it

806
00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:36,710
Harlem that's all you saw at night it
 

807
00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:40,060
Harlem that's all you saw at night it
was the furs and the diamonds so I

808
00:17:40,060 --> 00:17:40,070
was the furs and the diamonds so I
 

809
00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:41,470
was the furs and the diamonds so I
always thought white people always

810
00:17:41,470 --> 00:17:41,480
always thought white people always
 

811
00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,670
always thought white people always
belong to Harlem

812
00:17:42,670 --> 00:17:42,680
belong to Harlem
 

813
00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,500
belong to Harlem
so was it it wasn't

814
00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:45,510
so was it it wasn't
 

815
00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:49,039
so was it it wasn't
I began to realize there was an issue in

816
00:17:49,039 --> 00:17:49,049
I began to realize there was an issue in
 

817
00:17:49,049 --> 00:17:51,440
I began to realize there was an issue in
our country remember I was in my 20s

818
00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:51,450
our country remember I was in my 20s
 

819
00:17:51,450 --> 00:17:52,789
our country remember I was in my 20s
before I even knew the meaning of

820
00:17:52,789 --> 00:17:52,799
before I even knew the meaning of
 

821
00:17:52,799 --> 00:17:56,450
before I even knew the meaning of
segregation we didn't have it in Harlem

822
00:17:56,450 --> 00:17:56,460
segregation we didn't have it in Harlem
 

823
00:17:56,460 --> 00:17:59,390
segregation we didn't have it in Harlem
because I never went out of other

824
00:17:59,390 --> 00:17:59,400
because I never went out of other
 

825
00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:00,620
because I never went out of other
groundbreaking things you've done the

826
00:18:00,620 --> 00:18:00,630
groundbreaking things you've done the
 

827
00:18:00,630 --> 00:18:02,780
groundbreaking things you've done the
first female black act to play Las Vegas

828
00:18:02,780 --> 00:18:02,790
first female black act to play Las Vegas
 

829
00:18:02,790 --> 00:18:05,799
first female black act to play Las Vegas
the first female black act to play Miami

830
00:18:05,799 --> 00:18:05,809
the first female black act to play Miami
 

831
00:18:05,809 --> 00:18:09,200
the first female black act to play Miami
facing Jim Crow laws Oh basing prejudice

832
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:09,210
facing Jim Crow laws Oh basing prejudice
 

833
00:18:09,210 --> 00:18:11,240
facing Jim Crow laws Oh basing prejudice
what did it take inside you to keep

834
00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:11,250
what did it take inside you to keep
 

835
00:18:11,250 --> 00:18:13,220
what did it take inside you to keep
going and prevail well it didn't bother

836
00:18:13,220 --> 00:18:13,230
going and prevail well it didn't bother
 

837
00:18:13,230 --> 00:18:16,070
going and prevail well it didn't bother
us because remember when we hit Miami

838
00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:16,080
us because remember when we hit Miami
 

839
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,700
us because remember when we hit Miami
that just dig I'm amongst Jackie

840
00:18:19,700 --> 00:18:19,710
that just dig I'm amongst Jackie
 

841
00:18:19,710 --> 00:18:22,549
that just dig I'm amongst Jackie
Robinson Roy Campanella Thurgood

842
00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:22,559
Robinson Roy Campanella Thurgood
 

843
00:18:22,559 --> 00:18:26,360
Robinson Roy Campanella Thurgood
Marshall Joe Lewis the best of the best

844
00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:26,370
Marshall Joe Lewis the best of the best
 

845
00:18:26,370 --> 00:18:28,400
Marshall Joe Lewis the best of the best
we are sitting around all the time I

846
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:28,410
we are sitting around all the time I
 

847
00:18:28,410 --> 00:18:31,010
we are sitting around all the time I
mean they came they came around us

848
00:18:31,010 --> 00:18:31,020
mean they came they came around us
 

849
00:18:31,020 --> 00:18:33,860
mean they came they came around us
everybody wanted to be where we were so

850
00:18:33,860 --> 00:18:33,870
everybody wanted to be where we were so
 

851
00:18:33,870 --> 00:18:36,230
everybody wanted to be where we were so
it didn't bother us to the place where

852
00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:36,240
it didn't bother us to the place where
 

853
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,720
it didn't bother us to the place where
we felt that we were neglected you had

854
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:38,730
we felt that we were neglected you had
 

855
00:18:38,730 --> 00:18:42,200
we felt that we were neglected you had
an issue in a place where we knew it was

856
00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:42,210
an issue in a place where we knew it was
 

857
00:18:42,210 --> 00:18:44,060
an issue in a place where we knew it was
going to eventually be it was going to

858
00:18:44,060 --> 00:18:44,070
going to eventually be it was going to
 

859
00:18:44,070 --> 00:18:46,730
going to eventually be it was going to
change and we knew and we was working on

860
00:18:46,730 --> 00:18:46,740
change and we knew and we was working on
 

861
00:18:46,740 --> 00:18:48,230
change and we knew and we was working on
that and that's what they're good

862
00:18:48,230 --> 00:18:48,240
that and that's what they're good
 

863
00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,120
that and that's what they're good
Marshall and then we're doing how would

864
00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:50,130
Marshall and then we're doing how would
 

865
00:18:50,130 --> 00:18:53,720
Marshall and then we're doing how would
you say that you Norma Miller were a

866
00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:53,730
you say that you Norma Miller were a
 

867
00:18:53,730 --> 00:18:57,200
you say that you Norma Miller were a
force in the civil rights movement in

868
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:57,210
force in the civil rights movement in
 

869
00:18:57,210 --> 00:18:59,780
force in the civil rights movement in
your own modest way well we kicked down

870
00:18:59,780 --> 00:18:59,790
your own modest way well we kicked down
 

871
00:18:59,790 --> 00:19:03,640
your own modest way well we kicked down
doors we kicked down doors we you see

872
00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:03,650
doors we kicked down doors we you see
 

873
00:19:03,650 --> 00:19:06,590
doors we kicked down doors we you see
some of the forth some of the pioneers

874
00:19:06,590 --> 00:19:06,600
some of the forth some of the pioneers
 

875
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,870
some of the forth some of the pioneers
like Louie Armstrong was the one the man

876
00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:08,880
like Louie Armstrong was the one the man
 

877
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,810
like Louie Armstrong was the one the man
that put a face on jazz he was accepted

878
00:19:11,810 --> 00:19:11,820
that put a face on jazz he was accepted
 

879
00:19:11,820 --> 00:19:16,520
that put a face on jazz he was accepted
and once he gave us he gave white people

880
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:16,530
and once he gave us he gave white people
 

881
00:19:16,530 --> 00:19:18,830
and once he gave us he gave white people
the respect white people gave him the

882
00:19:18,830 --> 00:19:18,840
the respect white people gave him the
 

883
00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,110
the respect white people gave him the
respect to accept him well when he

884
00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:21,120
respect to accept him well when he
 

885
00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:22,549
respect to accept him well when he
walked through remember he didn't come

886
00:19:22,549 --> 00:19:22,559
walked through remember he didn't come
 

887
00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:25,490
walked through remember he didn't come
through alone he came through with when

888
00:19:25,490 --> 00:19:25,500
through alone he came through with when
 

889
00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:28,730
through alone he came through with when
Sammy Davis walked through Las Vegas he

890
00:19:28,730 --> 00:19:28,740
Sammy Davis walked through Las Vegas he
 

891
00:19:28,740 --> 00:19:30,980
Sammy Davis walked through Las Vegas he
didn't walk alone remember when he

892
00:19:30,980 --> 00:19:30,990
didn't walk alone remember when he
 

893
00:19:30,990 --> 00:19:33,409
didn't walk alone remember when he
opened the door a lot of us went through

894
00:19:33,409 --> 00:19:33,419
opened the door a lot of us went through
 

895
00:19:33,419 --> 00:19:36,500
opened the door a lot of us went through
and they couldn't and Vegas just didn't

896
00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:36,510
and they couldn't and Vegas just didn't
 

897
00:19:36,510 --> 00:19:37,880
and they couldn't and Vegas just didn't
accept the fact that there was going to

898
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:37,890
accept the fact that there was going to
 

899
00:19:37,890 --> 00:19:40,419
accept the fact that there was going to
be a separation that killed this this

900
00:19:40,419 --> 00:19:40,429
be a separation that killed this this
 

901
00:19:40,429 --> 00:19:44,480
be a separation that killed this this
segregation thing in Vegas this happened

902
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:44,490
segregation thing in Vegas this happened
 

903
00:19:44,490 --> 00:19:47,030
segregation thing in Vegas this happened
all over when Joe Lewis became champion

904
00:19:47,030 --> 00:19:47,040
all over when Joe Lewis became champion
 

905
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,549
all over when Joe Lewis became champion
of the world he opened the doors and

906
00:19:49,549 --> 00:19:49,559
of the world he opened the doors and
 

907
00:19:49,559 --> 00:19:52,520
of the world he opened the doors and
when he retired undefeated champion of

908
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:52,530
when he retired undefeated champion of
 

909
00:19:52,530 --> 00:19:53,870
when he retired undefeated champion of
the world in Miami

910
00:19:53,870 --> 00:19:53,880
the world in Miami
 

911
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,070
the world in Miami
I was sitting right

912
00:19:55,070 --> 00:19:55,080
I was sitting right
 

913
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,550
I was sitting right
and there the place was loaded with

914
00:19:59,550 --> 00:19:59,560
and there the place was loaded with
 

915
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,050
and there the place was loaded with
reporters everywhere

916
00:20:01,050 --> 00:20:01,060
reporters everywhere
 

917
00:20:01,060 --> 00:20:04,020
reporters everywhere
this was Jonah was the champion and he

918
00:20:04,020 --> 00:20:04,030
this was Jonah was the champion and he
 

919
00:20:04,030 --> 00:20:05,760
this was Jonah was the champion and he
was they were saying to him Joan you

920
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:05,770
was they were saying to him Joan you
 

921
00:20:05,770 --> 00:20:08,190
was they were saying to him Joan you
you're retiring what are you gonna do

922
00:20:08,190 --> 00:20:08,200
you're retiring what are you gonna do
 

923
00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,770
you're retiring what are you gonna do
now you're gonna play golf and he turned

924
00:20:10,770 --> 00:20:10,780
now you're gonna play golf and he turned
 

925
00:20:10,780 --> 00:20:12,540
now you're gonna play golf and he turned
to one of the black dancers and said

926
00:20:12,540 --> 00:20:12,550
to one of the black dancers and said
 

927
00:20:12,550 --> 00:20:16,050
to one of the black dancers and said
what day do they allow us to play golf

928
00:20:16,050 --> 00:20:16,060
what day do they allow us to play golf
 

929
00:20:16,060 --> 00:20:18,480
what day do they allow us to play golf
and they said they allow us to play golf

930
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:18,490
and they said they allow us to play golf
 

931
00:20:18,490 --> 00:20:21,120
and they said they allow us to play golf
on Wednesday and Joe turned to the

932
00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:21,130
on Wednesday and Joe turned to the
 

933
00:20:21,130 --> 00:20:22,830
on Wednesday and Joe turned to the
reporters that I'll be playing on

934
00:20:22,830 --> 00:20:22,840
reporters that I'll be playing on
 

935
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,420
reporters that I'll be playing on
Wednesday these things gave you pride to

936
00:20:27,420 --> 00:20:27,430
Wednesday these things gave you pride to
 

937
00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:29,610
Wednesday these things gave you pride to
know the best there was nobody was

938
00:20:29,610 --> 00:20:29,620
know the best there was nobody was
 

939
00:20:29,620 --> 00:20:31,980
know the best there was nobody was
better than Joe Lewis Norma what about

940
00:20:31,980 --> 00:20:31,990
better than Joe Lewis Norma what about
 

941
00:20:31,990 --> 00:20:34,080
better than Joe Lewis Norma what about
the other side of pride that the anger

942
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:34,090
the other side of pride that the anger
 

943
00:20:34,090 --> 00:20:35,820
the other side of pride that the anger
of literally having to deal with the

944
00:20:35,820 --> 00:20:35,830
of literally having to deal with the
 

945
00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:37,800
of literally having to deal with the
prejudice having to deal with working at

946
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:37,810
prejudice having to deal with working at
 

947
00:20:37,810 --> 00:20:41,240
prejudice having to deal with working at
the Flamingo a Las Vegas and then the

948
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:41,250
the Flamingo a Las Vegas and then the
 

949
00:20:41,250 --> 00:20:43,560
the Flamingo a Las Vegas and then the
bothers because remember when we played

950
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:43,570
bothers because remember when we played
 

951
00:20:43,570 --> 00:20:45,840
bothers because remember when we played
Vegas and that last show when the bus

952
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:45,850
Vegas and that last show when the bus
 

953
00:20:45,850 --> 00:20:47,580
Vegas and that last show when the bus
pulled up and took the whole show base

954
00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:47,590
pulled up and took the whole show base
 

955
00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:50,550
pulled up and took the whole show base
you know back to the west side everybody

956
00:20:50,550 --> 00:20:50,560
you know back to the west side everybody
 

957
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,110
you know back to the west side everybody
came to the west side because we were

958
00:20:55,110 --> 00:20:55,120
came to the west side because we were
 

959
00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:57,990
came to the west side because we were
jumping all night you know we had a lot

960
00:20:57,990 --> 00:20:58,000
jumping all night you know we had a lot
 

961
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:03,480
jumping all night you know we had a lot
of fun we think was bad but we had a lot

962
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:03,490
of fun we think was bad but we had a lot
 

963
00:21:03,490 --> 00:21:05,400
of fun we think was bad but we had a lot
of fun a lot of people didn't like what

964
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:05,410
of fun a lot of people didn't like what
 

965
00:21:05,410 --> 00:21:07,290
of fun a lot of people didn't like what
was going on but we knew there was gonna

966
00:21:07,290 --> 00:21:07,300
was going on but we knew there was gonna
 

967
00:21:07,300 --> 00:21:08,880
was going on but we knew there was gonna
be changes there was no question about

968
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:08,890
be changes there was no question about
 

969
00:21:08,890 --> 00:21:11,910
be changes there was no question about
it but it's very evident to me that you

970
00:21:11,910 --> 00:21:11,920
it but it's very evident to me that you
 

971
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,590
it but it's very evident to me that you
are in possession of a hugely positive

972
00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:13,600
are in possession of a hugely positive
 

973
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,280
are in possession of a hugely positive
attitude yes I was born in New York see

974
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:17,290
attitude yes I was born in New York see
 

975
00:21:17,290 --> 00:21:19,590
attitude yes I was born in New York see
I was 20 years old before I even

976
00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:19,600
I was 20 years old before I even
 

977
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,720
I was 20 years old before I even
understood the meaning of segregation

978
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:21,730
understood the meaning of segregation
 

979
00:21:21,730 --> 00:21:23,970
understood the meaning of segregation
where's that positive attitude come from

980
00:21:23,970 --> 00:21:23,980
where's that positive attitude come from
 

981
00:21:23,980 --> 00:21:25,680
where's that positive attitude come from
not everybody who's born in New York has

982
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:25,690
not everybody who's born in New York has
 

983
00:21:25,690 --> 00:21:27,360
not everybody who's born in New York has
that positive attitude but you don't

984
00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:27,370
that positive attitude but you don't
 

985
00:21:27,370 --> 00:21:29,790
that positive attitude but you don't
have that feeling of I'm not as good as

986
00:21:29,790 --> 00:21:29,800
have that feeling of I'm not as good as
 

987
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,890
have that feeling of I'm not as good as
you are I mean you just never we just

988
00:21:31,890 --> 00:21:31,900
you are I mean you just never we just
 

989
00:21:31,900 --> 00:21:32,960
you are I mean you just never we just
didn't have that kind of feeling

990
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:32,970
didn't have that kind of feeling
 

991
00:21:32,970 --> 00:21:35,340
didn't have that kind of feeling
remember we were the best of that ever

992
00:21:35,340 --> 00:21:35,350
remember we were the best of that ever
 

993
00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:39,240
remember we were the best of that ever
did it and everybody came to us so we

994
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:39,250
did it and everybody came to us so we
 

995
00:21:39,250 --> 00:21:41,640
did it and everybody came to us so we
was not neglected at all everybody

996
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:41,650
was not neglected at all everybody
 

997
00:21:41,650 --> 00:21:44,280
was not neglected at all everybody
wanted to do what we did I'm not trying

998
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:44,290
wanted to do what we did I'm not trying
 

999
00:21:44,290 --> 00:21:47,730
wanted to do what we did I'm not trying
to put you like one nice but I'm just

1000
00:21:47,730 --> 00:21:47,740
to put you like one nice but I'm just
 

1001
00:21:47,740 --> 00:21:49,650
to put you like one nice but I'm just
curious is there any way you can analyze

1002
00:21:49,650 --> 00:21:49,660
curious is there any way you can analyze
 

1003
00:21:49,660 --> 00:21:53,460
curious is there any way you can analyze
your own ability to be so positive in

1004
00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:53,470
your own ability to be so positive in
 

1005
00:21:53,470 --> 00:21:55,860
your own ability to be so positive in
the face of what really infuriated never

1006
00:21:55,860 --> 00:21:55,870
the face of what really infuriated never
 

1007
00:21:55,870 --> 00:21:58,590
the face of what really infuriated never
had we never had to face it remember

1008
00:21:58,590 --> 00:21:58,600
had we never had to face it remember
 

1009
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,230
had we never had to face it remember
wherever we were we had more white

1010
00:22:01,230 --> 00:22:01,240
wherever we were we had more white
 

1011
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,500
wherever we were we had more white
people following us in the world I mean

1012
00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:03,510
people following us in the world I mean
 

1013
00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:06,120
people following us in the world I mean
I'm sorry but you people wanted to

1014
00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:06,130
I'm sorry but you people wanted to
 

1015
00:22:06,130 --> 00:22:09,890
I'm sorry but you people wanted to
always a be around us

1016
00:22:09,890 --> 00:22:09,900

 

1017
00:22:09,900 --> 00:22:13,350

the people that wanted fun and we had a

1018
00:22:13,350 --> 00:22:13,360
the people that wanted fun and we had a
 

1019
00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:16,410
the people that wanted fun and we had a
lot of fun fun you couldn't imagine

1020
00:22:16,410 --> 00:22:16,420
lot of fun fun you couldn't imagine
 

1021
00:22:16,420 --> 00:22:19,860
lot of fun fun you couldn't imagine
traveling with Basie even Sinatra said

1022
00:22:19,860 --> 00:22:19,870
traveling with Basie even Sinatra said
 

1023
00:22:19,870 --> 00:22:21,510
traveling with Basie even Sinatra said
he never went on a bus again until he

1024
00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:21,520
he never went on a bus again until he
 

1025
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,120
he never went on a bus again until he
traveled with bass in them again it's

1026
00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:24,130
traveled with bass in them again it's
 

1027
00:22:24,130 --> 00:22:26,550
traveled with bass in them again it's
the kind of fun that you outside world

1028
00:22:26,550 --> 00:22:26,560
the kind of fun that you outside world
 

1029
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,190
the kind of fun that you outside world
didn't affect us because we knew listen

1030
00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:29,200
didn't affect us because we knew listen
 

1031
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,420
didn't affect us because we knew listen
Martin Luther King and them they were

1032
00:22:30,420 --> 00:22:30,430
Martin Luther King and them they were
 

1033
00:22:30,430 --> 00:22:32,730
Martin Luther King and them they were
busy taking care of it that was their

1034
00:22:32,730 --> 00:22:32,740
busy taking care of it that was their
 

1035
00:22:32,740 --> 00:22:34,800
busy taking care of it that was their
job we used to send them blankets and

1036
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:34,810
job we used to send them blankets and
 

1037
00:22:34,810 --> 00:22:38,460
job we used to send them blankets and
whatnot and that's all we can do I'm not

1038
00:22:38,460 --> 00:22:38,470
whatnot and that's all we can do I'm not
 

1039
00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:40,110
whatnot and that's all we can do I'm not
the I never marched with him because I

1040
00:22:40,110 --> 00:22:40,120
the I never marched with him because I
 

1041
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,360
the I never marched with him because I
wasn't about to March because I never

1042
00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:42,370
wasn't about to March because I never
 

1043
00:22:42,370 --> 00:22:44,100
wasn't about to March because I never
went into the state of Georgia

1044
00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:44,110
went into the state of Georgia
 

1045
00:22:44,110 --> 00:22:46,200
went into the state of Georgia
I never went understated Mississippi I

1046
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:46,210
I never went understated Mississippi I
 

1047
00:22:46,210 --> 00:22:47,730
I never went understated Mississippi I
still haven't gone into the state of

1048
00:22:47,730 --> 00:22:47,740
still haven't gone into the state of
 

1049
00:22:47,740 --> 00:22:52,920
still haven't gone into the state of
Mississippi things have changed you know

1050
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:52,930
Mississippi things have changed you know
 

1051
00:22:52,930 --> 00:22:55,800
Mississippi things have changed you know
I'm gonna mention three names and I want

1052
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:55,810
I'm gonna mention three names and I want
 

1053
00:22:55,810 --> 00:22:58,830
I'm gonna mention three names and I want
you to tell me what about these three

1054
00:22:58,830 --> 00:22:58,840
you to tell me what about these three
 

1055
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,220
you to tell me what about these three
great black performers was

1056
00:23:02,220 --> 00:23:02,230
great black performers was
 

1057
00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:04,290
great black performers was
groundbreaking because you're a

1058
00:23:04,290 --> 00:23:04,300
groundbreaking because you're a
 

1059
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:05,970
groundbreaking because you're a
groundbreaker with swing dancing let's

1060
00:23:05,970 --> 00:23:05,980
groundbreaker with swing dancing let's
 

1061
00:23:05,980 --> 00:23:07,830
groundbreaker with swing dancing let's
start with Sammy Davis jr. what was

1062
00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:07,840
start with Sammy Davis jr. what was
 

1063
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,810
start with Sammy Davis jr. what was
groundbreaking about Sammy Davis world's

1064
00:23:09,810 --> 00:23:09,820
groundbreaking about Sammy Davis world's
 

1065
00:23:09,820 --> 00:23:12,060
groundbreaking about Sammy Davis world's
greatest entertainer I mean he was

1066
00:23:12,060 --> 00:23:12,070
greatest entertainer I mean he was
 

1067
00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:14,640
greatest entertainer I mean he was
better than Sinatra you know but listen

1068
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:14,650
better than Sinatra you know but listen
 

1069
00:23:14,650 --> 00:23:17,160
better than Sinatra you know but listen
Dean Martin said roses are red vital to

1070
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:17,170
Dean Martin said roses are red vital to
 

1071
00:23:17,170 --> 00:23:19,050
Dean Martin said roses are red vital to
the pink if I had your talent I wouldn't

1072
00:23:19,050 --> 00:23:19,060
the pink if I had your talent I wouldn't
 

1073
00:23:19,060 --> 00:23:21,870
the pink if I had your talent I wouldn't
have to drink nobody was better than

1074
00:23:21,870 --> 00:23:21,880
have to drink nobody was better than
 

1075
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,740
have to drink nobody was better than
seven so the best of Vegas recognized

1076
00:23:25,740 --> 00:23:25,750
seven so the best of Vegas recognized
 

1077
00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:27,870
seven so the best of Vegas recognized
Sammy you know what that means in a

1078
00:23:27,870 --> 00:23:27,880
Sammy you know what that means in a
 

1079
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,370
Sammy you know what that means in a
place like Las Vegas when you're the

1080
00:23:29,370 --> 00:23:29,380
place like Las Vegas when you're the
 

1081
00:23:29,380 --> 00:23:33,210
place like Las Vegas when you're the
best and it just was nobody better so

1082
00:23:33,210 --> 00:23:33,220
best and it just was nobody better so
 

1083
00:23:33,220 --> 00:23:35,250
best and it just was nobody better so
when the dough when when he couldn't go

1084
00:23:35,250 --> 00:23:35,260
when the dough when when he couldn't go
 

1085
00:23:35,260 --> 00:23:37,290
when the dough when when he couldn't go
someplace Sinatra nem just wouldn't

1086
00:23:37,290 --> 00:23:37,300
someplace Sinatra nem just wouldn't
 

1087
00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:37,710
someplace Sinatra nem just wouldn't
allow it

1088
00:23:37,710 --> 00:23:37,720
allow it
 

1089
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,820
allow it
so he broke the barrier for entertainers

1090
00:23:41,820 --> 00:23:41,830
so he broke the barrier for entertainers
 

1091
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:44,210
so he broke the barrier for entertainers
in Las Vegas Lena Horne didn't do that

1092
00:23:44,210 --> 00:23:44,220
in Las Vegas Lena Horne didn't do that
 

1093
00:23:44,220 --> 00:23:48,200
in Las Vegas Lena Horne didn't do that
Sammy did that because of Sinatra next

1094
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:48,210
Sammy did that because of Sinatra next
 

1095
00:23:48,210 --> 00:23:51,060
Sammy did that because of Sinatra next
groundbreaking Louie Armstrong oh well

1096
00:23:51,060 --> 00:23:51,070
groundbreaking Louie Armstrong oh well
 

1097
00:23:51,070 --> 00:23:52,770
groundbreaking Louie Armstrong oh well
he was just the people's day ambassador

1098
00:23:52,770 --> 00:23:52,780
he was just the people's day ambassador
 

1099
00:23:52,780 --> 00:23:55,980
he was just the people's day ambassador
he was just the best I mean the world

1100
00:23:55,980 --> 00:23:55,990
he was just the best I mean the world
 

1101
00:23:55,990 --> 00:23:58,200
he was just the best I mean the world
recognized Louie Armstrong he's the most

1102
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:58,210
recognized Louie Armstrong he's the most
 

1103
00:23:58,210 --> 00:24:01,830
recognized Louie Armstrong he's the most
recognized voice most we just reach day

1104
00:24:01,830 --> 00:24:01,840
recognized voice most we just reach day
 

1105
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,640
recognized voice most we just reach day
we went to a dizzy the in Lincoln Center

1106
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:05,650
we went to a dizzy the in Lincoln Center
 

1107
00:24:05,650 --> 00:24:08,910
we went to a dizzy the in Lincoln Center
and the wonderful world of Louis Lewis

1108
00:24:08,910 --> 00:24:08,920
and the wonderful world of Louis Lewis
 

1109
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,890
and the wonderful world of Louis Lewis
music and this packed

1110
00:24:10,890 --> 00:24:10,900
music and this packed
 

1111
00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:17,070
music and this packed
I mean his music it's just he was uh he

1112
00:24:17,070 --> 00:24:17,080
I mean his music it's just he was uh he
 

1113
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,840
I mean his music it's just he was uh he
was one open all the doors for all of us

1114
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:18,850
was one open all the doors for all of us
 

1115
00:24:18,850 --> 00:24:22,289
was one open all the doors for all of us
all of us one more groundbreaker

1116
00:24:22,289 --> 00:24:22,299
all of us one more groundbreaker
 

1117
00:24:22,299 --> 00:24:24,810
all of us one more groundbreaker
Duke Ellington oh you're talking about

1118
00:24:24,810 --> 00:24:24,820
Duke Ellington oh you're talking about
 

1119
00:24:24,820 --> 00:24:27,029
Duke Ellington oh you're talking about
the elegant elegant I mean who was

1120
00:24:27,029 --> 00:24:27,039
the elegant elegant I mean who was
 

1121
00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:30,719
the elegant elegant I mean who was
better I mean he was our Mozart I mean I

1122
00:24:30,719 --> 00:24:30,729
better I mean he was our Mozart I mean I
 

1123
00:24:30,729 --> 00:24:32,430
better I mean he was our Mozart I mean I
don't think Duke ever thought it and

1124
00:24:32,430 --> 00:24:32,440
don't think Duke ever thought it and
 

1125
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:38,430
don't think Duke ever thought it and
being black he was just like no one else

1126
00:24:38,430 --> 00:24:38,440
being black he was just like no one else
 

1127
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,669
being black he was just like no one else
and he was far above in mental well

1128
00:24:41,669 --> 00:24:41,679
and he was far above in mental well
 

1129
00:24:41,679 --> 00:24:45,839
and he was far above in mental well
mentally Duke Ellington always thought

1130
00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:45,849
mentally Duke Ellington always thought
 

1131
00:24:45,849 --> 00:24:48,779
mentally Duke Ellington always thought
when we were round to Killington you in

1132
00:24:48,779 --> 00:24:48,789
when we were round to Killington you in
 

1133
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:52,529
when we were round to Killington you in
the presence of the Lord and when we

1134
00:24:52,529 --> 00:24:52,539
the presence of the Lord and when we
 

1135
00:24:52,539 --> 00:24:54,359
the presence of the Lord and when we
used to lead Duke Ellington we used to

1136
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:54,369
used to lead Duke Ellington we used to
 

1137
00:24:54,369 --> 00:25:02,249
used to lead Duke Ellington we used to
do this maybe in that leopard and that

1138
00:25:02,249 --> 00:25:02,259
do this maybe in that leopard and that
 

1139
00:25:02,259 --> 00:25:08,639
do this maybe in that leopard and that
leopard robe anywhere I mean he was just

1140
00:25:08,639 --> 00:25:08,649
leopard robe anywhere I mean he was just
 

1141
00:25:08,649 --> 00:25:10,319
leopard robe anywhere I mean he was just
like no one else I've never been around

1142
00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:10,329
like no one else I've never been around
 

1143
00:25:10,329 --> 00:25:12,919
like no one else I've never been around
anybody like Duke Ellington has 42

1144
00:25:12,919 --> 00:25:12,929
anybody like Duke Ellington has 42
 

1145
00:25:12,929 --> 00:25:16,440
anybody like Duke Ellington has 42
strength of discipline strength of

1146
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:16,450
strength of discipline strength of
 

1147
00:25:16,450 --> 00:25:18,749
strength of discipline strength of
character and this fortitude and all

1148
00:25:18,749 --> 00:25:18,759
character and this fortitude and all
 

1149
00:25:18,759 --> 00:25:20,459
character and this fortitude and all
that means helped you to prevail all

1150
00:25:20,459 --> 00:25:20,469
that means helped you to prevail all
 

1151
00:25:20,469 --> 00:25:22,560
that means helped you to prevail all
these years I think that goes into it

1152
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:22,570
these years I think that goes into it
 

1153
00:25:22,570 --> 00:25:26,099
these years I think that goes into it
and also knowing who you are and not

1154
00:25:26,099 --> 00:25:26,109
and also knowing who you are and not
 

1155
00:25:26,109 --> 00:25:29,039
and also knowing who you are and not
being not feel demean in front of a

1156
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:29,049
being not feel demean in front of a
 

1157
00:25:29,049 --> 00:25:31,499
being not feel demean in front of a
person because of race race just never

1158
00:25:31,499 --> 00:25:31,509
person because of race race just never
 

1159
00:25:31,509 --> 00:25:33,319
person because of race race just never
had that kind of problem with me I

1160
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:33,329
had that kind of problem with me I
 

1161
00:25:33,329 --> 00:25:36,029
had that kind of problem with me I
always been accepted everywhere I go I

1162
00:25:36,029 --> 00:25:36,039
always been accepted everywhere I go I
 

1163
00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:39,389
always been accepted everywhere I go I
tried to show people that we have a

1164
00:25:39,389 --> 00:25:39,399
tried to show people that we have a
 

1165
00:25:39,399 --> 00:25:42,569
tried to show people that we have a
certain kind of class and I just never

1166
00:25:42,569 --> 00:25:42,579
certain kind of class and I just never
 

1167
00:25:42,579 --> 00:25:44,699
certain kind of class and I just never
had a lot of problems not racial wise

1168
00:25:44,699 --> 00:25:44,709
had a lot of problems not racial wise
 

1169
00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:47,099
had a lot of problems not racial wise
anyway how about your own personal

1170
00:25:47,099 --> 00:25:47,109
anyway how about your own personal
 

1171
00:25:47,109 --> 00:25:48,899
anyway how about your own personal
habits and obviously obviously I always

1172
00:25:48,899 --> 00:25:48,909
habits and obviously obviously I always
 

1173
00:25:48,909 --> 00:25:51,869
habits and obviously obviously I always
had good happens yeah yeah all good

1174
00:25:51,869 --> 00:25:51,879
had good happens yeah yeah all good
 

1175
00:25:51,879 --> 00:25:53,940
had good happens yeah yeah all good
happens I try to live good because I'm

1176
00:25:53,940 --> 00:25:53,950
happens I try to live good because I'm
 

1177
00:25:53,950 --> 00:25:55,619
happens I try to live good because I'm
time trying to live to be a hundred

1178
00:25:55,619 --> 00:25:55,629
time trying to live to be a hundred
 

1179
00:25:55,629 --> 00:25:57,959
time trying to live to be a hundred
so from here or not I gotta be careful

1180
00:25:57,959 --> 00:25:57,969
so from here or not I gotta be careful
 

1181
00:25:57,969 --> 00:26:00,749
so from here or not I gotta be careful
but listen I have a good life I feel

1182
00:26:00,749 --> 00:26:00,759
but listen I have a good life I feel
 

1183
00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:01,319
but listen I have a good life I feel
wonderful

1184
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:01,329
wonderful
 

1185
00:26:01,329 --> 00:26:04,829
wonderful
good good help and I don't do things

1186
00:26:04,829 --> 00:26:04,839
good good help and I don't do things
 

1187
00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:06,869
good good help and I don't do things
that will destroy your health take care

1188
00:26:06,869 --> 00:26:06,879
that will destroy your health take care
 

1189
00:26:06,879 --> 00:26:09,479
that will destroy your health take care
of the body and the body will take care

1190
00:26:09,479 --> 00:26:09,489
of the body and the body will take care
 

1191
00:26:09,489 --> 00:26:11,279
of the body and the body will take care
of you but now if you do things to your

1192
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:11,289
of you but now if you do things to your
 

1193
00:26:11,289 --> 00:26:14,399
of you but now if you do things to your
body well then you're destroying you're

1194
00:26:14,399 --> 00:26:14,409
body well then you're destroying you're
 

1195
00:26:14,409 --> 00:26:16,469
body well then you're destroying you're
limiting your time because then you're

1196
00:26:16,469 --> 00:26:16,479
limiting your time because then you're
 

1197
00:26:16,479 --> 00:26:19,409
limiting your time because then you're
in your you're taking a chance on the

1198
00:26:19,409 --> 00:26:19,419
in your you're taking a chance on the
 

1199
00:26:19,419 --> 00:26:22,229
in your you're taking a chance on the
outside things like diabetes high blood

1200
00:26:22,229 --> 00:26:22,239
outside things like diabetes high blood
 

1201
00:26:22,239 --> 00:26:24,690
outside things like diabetes high blood
pressure these are the things and stress

1202
00:26:24,690 --> 00:26:24,700
pressure these are the things and stress
 

1203
00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:25,949
pressure these are the things and stress
these are the things that destroy the

1204
00:26:25,949 --> 00:26:25,959
these are the things that destroy the
 

1205
00:26:25,959 --> 00:26:28,369
these are the things that destroy the
body I thought live doing those things

1206
00:26:28,369 --> 00:26:28,379
body I thought live doing those things
 

1207
00:26:28,379 --> 00:26:32,459
body I thought live doing those things
I've outlived anxiety and I just don't

1208
00:26:32,459 --> 00:26:32,469
I've outlived anxiety and I just don't
 

1209
00:26:32,469 --> 00:26:34,680
I've outlived anxiety and I just don't
have the problems most people had well

1210
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:34,690
have the problems most people had well
 

1211
00:26:34,690 --> 00:26:36,190
have the problems most people had well
how did you deal with anxiety

1212
00:26:36,190 --> 00:26:36,200
how did you deal with anxiety
 

1213
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,039
how did you deal with anxiety
when you were before ya lived it danced

1214
00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:39,049
when you were before ya lived it danced
 

1215
00:26:39,049 --> 00:26:40,930
when you were before ya lived it danced
it exercised

1216
00:26:40,930 --> 00:26:40,940
it exercised
 

1217
00:26:40,940 --> 00:26:45,310
it exercised
dance music Norma before we say goodbye

1218
00:26:45,310 --> 00:26:45,320
dance music Norma before we say goodbye
 

1219
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,049
dance music Norma before we say goodbye
give me the beat give me the beat give

1220
00:26:47,049 --> 00:26:47,059
give me the beat give me the beat give
 

1221
00:26:47,059 --> 00:26:53,259
give me the beat give me the beat give
me the beat get on the beat bill okay

1222
00:26:53,259 --> 00:26:53,269
me the beat get on the beat bill okay
 

1223
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:54,970
me the beat get on the beat bill okay
I'm on the beat now this is bill Boggs

1224
00:26:54,970 --> 00:26:54,980
I'm on the beat now this is bill Boggs
 

1225
00:26:54,980 --> 00:26:57,340
I'm on the beat now this is bill Boggs
okay it's Norma Miller at the Lenox

1226
00:26:57,340 --> 00:26:57,350
okay it's Norma Miller at the Lenox
 

1227
00:26:57,350 --> 00:27:01,090
okay it's Norma Miller at the Lenox
lounge for my generation now let's dance

1228
00:27:01,090 --> 00:27:01,100
lounge for my generation now let's dance
 

1229
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:04,450
lounge for my generation now let's dance
Thank You Norma thank you