ALL SING: # Jools. # Thank you so much.
Here we are in my dressing room because, for the first time ever,
we are broadcasting to you on a Sunday night.
Yes, this is how we start on a Sunday. I hope you are well.
Here are the opening titles.
This programme contains some strong language.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
# Can you heal me, baby?
# I've been dancing in this fire for way too long
# Long, long, long
# But I kind of like it
# Oh, I like it Cos it's more dangerous than me
# Me, me, me
# There's a siren somewhere
# But I'm pretty sure It's only in my head
# Head, head, head
# So, tell me can't you hear it?
# Cos there's something Supernatural in your bones
# Bones, bones, bones
# Oh, this is love like wildness
# Coursing through you like a drug
# And this is hurt like kindness
# Begging you with gentle hands
# I call out your name
# It feels like a song I know so well
# But it whispers and roars like an orchestra
# You call out my name like no-one before
# It sounds like I'm
# Called to a home that I never had
# Can you heal me, baby?
# I've been wasted in the arms of everyone
# I wasn't looking for you
# But I think maybe I was and didn't know
# Know, know, know
# Oh, this is love like wildness Coursing through you like a drug
# And this hurt like kindness Begging you with gentle hands
# I call out your name
# It feels like a song I know so well
# It whispers and roars like an orchestra
# Like an orchestra
# You call out my name like no-one before
# It sounds like I'm
# Called to a home that I never had. #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Thank you, Snow Patrol. Heal Me, from their wonderful new album, Wildness.
A room full of marvellous guests this evening.
From Detroit, Michigan, it is Bettye LaVette.
So wonderful to have her in this room.
Brand-new from Hexham, Northumberland, it's Jade Bird.
Legends in this corner from Oakland, California,
it's Tower Of Power.
CHEERING
From Forest Gate in East London,
we are delighted to welcome back, after maybe six years so, Plan B.
CHEERING
And now, brand-new and from South London, we welcome Shame.
CHEERING
Hi, Mum.
# Well, my nails ain't manicured
# And my voice ain't the best you've heard
# And you can choose to hate my words
# But do I give a...?
# Socks are old and shoes are broke
# Lungs are tired cos they're filled with smoke
# Wallet's empty and I'm going broke
# But I'm still breathing
# Well, I'm not much to look at
# And I ain't much to hear
# But if you think I love you
# You've got the wrong idea
# Well, I'm not much to look at
# And I ain't much to hear
# But if you think I love you
# You've got the wrong idea
# Yellow teeth fit the sleeping bags
# Not too good at school but I ain't bad
# And I'd rather be...than sad
# And that's a start
# Lying's fine if you get what you need
# You're confusing love with greed
# And I won't I won't say please
# At least not yet
# Well, I'm not much to look at
# I ain't much to hear
# But if you think I love you
# You've got the wrong idea
# Well, I'm not much to look at
# And I ain't much to hear
# But if you think I love you
# You've got the wrong idea
# And you're clinging to conflict
# Just let go Just let go
# And you're clinging to conflict
# Just let go Just let go. #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Thank you, Shame. One Rizla...
..from their album Songs Of Praise.
Now, I have at the table here, coming back after six or seven years, it's Plan B.
CHEERING Welcome back to the show.
Why so long? It's been a long gap.
Just real life. I needed things to write about.
Yeah, and what sort of things have inspired you for this new record?
Life don't get more realer than having kids, you know?
So, parenthood, for me. Yeah? Yeah.
You've also done a thing which is using music as therapy,
which is good for children.
Yeah. Tell us about that. What is that you've been doing there?
I was expelled from school and I went to a pupil referral unit
and we had a chap there called Cliff Early who used to bring
all his own music equipment to the school.
And he used it as a therapy to get us to come out of our shelves,
cos you get instant gratification from music.
The minute you give a kid drumstick, he starts hitting on the snare,
he starts getting a sound out of it.
You don't get that with other subjects.
So, we was all at the school because we was expelled from other schools
because academics... The academic approach wasn't working for us.
So, we needed vocations. And there's nothing better than music.
Everybody loves to hear music. Even if they can't play it,
they enjoy it. So I learned that when I was at the school.
And so when I came back there to do a documentary
and Cliff had died, I saw that he hadn't been replaced,
and I just, I knew I had to put a new music room there.
So, I hooked up with the record label, Atlantic, and Big Music,
and we put a music studio in there, and a full-time music teacher.
And since we've done that we've had 25% of kids getting enrolled
back into mainstream education, which is unprecedented.
That's great. I think that is the best thing I've heard today so far.
So, I congratulate you on that. Very well done.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
And you've got a great new record out,
Heaven Before All Hell Breaks Loose. Great title.
We're going to be hearing some things from it.
But I've got to move along over here. Music therapy.
It works for all sorts of things, old people, young people. That's right, it does.
You don't even need words. Just music, it's great. That's right.
That's what this show is. For the first time on a Sunday night.
There we go. Sunday night chat with Plan B, thank you so much.
And now, we go over into this direction.
No, I won't be stopped. I will not be stopped.
They are going to stop me, but I can't be.
Because over here, I am excited to see the legends
that are celebrating 50 years in show business, it is Tower of Power.
Come on, y'all! What is hip? Hit it!
# Hey, hey, hey
# So you want to jump your trick bag
# And ease on in a hip bag
# But you ain't just exactly sure what's hip
# So you started to let your hair grow
# Spend big bucks copping your wardrobe
# But somehow you know there's much more to the trip
# Sing it! What is hip?
# Tell me, tell me do you think you know?
# What is hip?
# If you're really hip The passing years will show
# You in a hip trip Maybe hipper than hip
# But what is hip?
# Yeah, yeah, yeah
# Ooh, ooh, yeah, yeah
# You became part of the new breed Smokin' only the best weed
# And hangin' out on the so-called hippest set
# You been seen at all the right places
# Seen with just the right faces
# You should be satisfied But still it ain't quite right
# Tell me What is hip?
# Tell me, tell me do you think you know
# What is hip?
# If you really hip The passing years will show
# You on a hip trip Maybe hipper than hip
# But what is hip? Come on, y'all!
# Stick it!
# Hipness is what it is
# Come on, baby Hipness is what it is
# Hipness is what it is Hey!
# But sometimes hipness is What it ain't
# Yeah, yeah.#
Jerry Cortez!
# You went and found you a guru
# In your effort to find you a new you
# And maybe even managed to raise your conscious level
# When you're striving to find the right road
# There's one thing you better know
# What's hip today it might become passe
# Tell me What is hip?
# Tell me, tell me do you think you know
# What is hip?
# If you're really hip The passing years will show
# You in a hip trip Maybe hipper than hip
# But what is hip? #
Come on, y'all.
That's it!
# Ow!
# Hey! Hey!
# Ow!
# Yeah Huh!
# Hey, hey, hey
# Yeah! What is hip?
# Listen
# We got this something that makes you want to shout
# We got the something to show you what it's all about
# We got this something that makes you want to move
# We got this something
# That makes you want to groove
# What is hip? I...
# What is hip?
# I'd like to know What is hip?
# Na na na-na na-na na na na
# What is hip?
# I'd like to know What is hip?
# Is it in the style of your hair What is hip?
# Or is it in the clothes that you wear?
# What is hip?
# Is it in driving a fancy car?
# What is hip?
# Is it in being a superstar? Come on!
# Hey! Huh! Yeah!
# Ooh!
# Yeah! Come on!
# Hey! Hey! Hey!
# Oh!
# What is hip? #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Certainly got me dancing around. Tower Of Power.
Beautiful sound. What is hip?
A question they first asked in 1973, that is still on our lips today.
And now we introduce in this corner Plan B.
CHEERING
# When the whole world's got the wrong idea
# Even though I made myself clear
# In the past I've been misunderstood
# Haven't handled it well The way I know that I could
# Things are different now
# I stopped caring
# I don't worry about What people saying
# Cos there's no way that I
# Can stop them thinking What they thinking
# I'm just listening to my heartbeat
# To the tune I've been singing from the start
# Since I learned the truth
# I gotta make my own decisions 'bout what to do
# Can't be changing up the rhythm just for you
# Ooh ooh ooh ooh Ooh ooh ooh ooh
# When it looks like I've lost my way
# Even though I'm saying I'm OK
# Let me be There's nothing no-one can do
# When all odds are stacked against me
# My true colours shine through
# The fog of deception
# That's been clouding your perception
# Of who I am I'm ready for rejection
# I'm not begging for acceptance
# I'm just listening to my heartbeat
# To the tune I've been singing from the start
# Since I learned the truth
# I gotta make my own decisions 'bout what to do
# Can't be changing up the rhythm just for you
# I'm just listening to my heartbeat
# To the tune I've been singing from the start
# Since I learned the truth
# I gotta make my own decisions 'bout what to do
# Can't be changing up the rhythm just for you
# I did it just to prove 'em wrong
# Cos they said I'd never make anything of myself
# I said I'd do it all along
# Just kept on following my heartbeat and nothing else
# My heartbeat and nothing else
# I'm just listening to my heartbeat
# To the tune I've been singing from the start
# Since I learned the truth
# I gotta make my own decisions 'bout what to do
# Can't be changing up the rhythm just for you
# I'm just listening to my heartbeat
# To the tune I've been singing from the start
# Since I learned the truth
# I gotta make my own decisions 'bout what to do
# Can't be changing up the rhythm just for you
# I'm just listening to my heartbeat
# To my heartbeat
# I'm just following my heartbeat
# I'm just listening to my heartbeat
# I'm just following my heartbeat Yeah, yeah. #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Thank you, Plan B, with Heartbeat, yes.
And now I welcome Gary and Johnny from Snow patrol.
CHEERING
I tell you what, it is a joy to have you back in the studio.
It's been too long. How long ago was it when you were last here?
Can you remember? Yeah, 2011 we were last on the show. That's right.
And sounding better than ever. Thank you very much.
I understand that you've moved,
you've both moved to Los Angeles, is that right?
Well, we did for a bit, and now we've moved back again.
So, I'm back in Ireland. Back in Belfast.
And did you like it or was it too much or it...?
No, I liked it, for sure, for sure.
But there's a lot of sunshine that you have to content with.
Being an Irish person, I'm not used to that.
That's weird.
We find life indoors, and then you have to find life outdoors there.
A bit of rain and everything. Paint the windows black. Yeah.
That's what I was doing.
Now, I have this hobby of boasting, and the true great boaster
never boasts himself, he always gets other people to do the boasting for him.
So, I'm going to do a bit of the boasting for you,
because I don't know if a lot of people know this about you,
but you write songs for... Both of you write songs for and with other
people, like Taylor Swift, like One Direction, like Ed Sheeran, Shape Of You, all those songs.
He wrote Shape Of You.
Well, there you go, I mean, what a brilliant thing.
I mean, it's not a boast that you make, so I'm making it for you.
It's pretty extraordinary to write with all those people. How does that come about?
Erm, well, I mean, with Ed, we became friends with him
back when he was on his first record, and then he toured with us.
He supported us on tour in America in 2011.
And... Yeah, then he was never heard from again. Exactly, yeah. LAUGHTER
The kiss of death. Sorry, Ed.
So, that is quite extraordinary, isn't it?
What is the key to... G# minor.
Is it, I thought so. Which one? LAUGHTER
Very nice.
So, what is the... I'll make a note of that.
So, what is the key to writing good songs?
The key is people, you know?
It's who is writing the song.
And from my perspective, I'm in a room with them
and I collaborate, and it's...
It's the person that it comes from, that's the key.
That's the deepest key.
Do you start with the words or start with the music?
Music, normally. Yeah.
With Ed, we were writing with Ed recently,
and the songs kind of build in the background.
You don't know it's happening, and then you take a look half an hour later
and a song unfolds in front of you.
It's very difficult to distil down into words which comes first,
or what happens when.
Out of interest, who are your favourite songwriters?
Who would you...?
My favourite songwriter at the moment is Taylor Goldsmith from Dawes.
I think he's the most extraordinary lyricist maybe writing in music at the moment.
I'm a big lyrics freak, so I like anybody that can turn a phrase.
Yeah. What would you say?
Well, you said earlier that people boast for others
when they won't boast for themselves.
At the minute, honestly, from the bottom of my heart,
my favourite record, and my favourite songwriter is Gary.
He's written...
LAUGHTER
Thanks, man.
It's the sort of thing... It's an honest answer.
You waited until Jools Holland to tell me. All these years!
Have you ever told him you liked him, even, up till now?
No, I like him, but... You can see the relief on my face.
You've been waiting, right?
Yeah, my favourite record at the minute, I'm not boasting for me
because Gary wrote the songs, it's this one.
Well, there you go.
Now, also, you've recently launched Life On Earth
with the help of various space agencies.
Yes. Which is a really great thing.
We are in the modern age here, we're looking at the stars, we're not in the gutter.
What are some of the things you have been engaging in with this?
Well, we filmed the video at the European space agency just outside of Amsterdam.
We got to make a video in a replica capsule of the International Space Station.
Were you allowed to touch things?
Some things. Some things we were allowed to touch.
There was the most powerful speaker in the world, it goes up to 158dBs.
To frighten off aliens?
Well, it's to test satellites before they go into space
because sound, apparently, when they are launching,
has as much impact as anything else.
I knew that. LAUGHTER
But it can actually explode a human. Wow! It's that loud. Wow!
Did not test that out. You don't have that with you over there in your rig?
We're waiting for the finale.
Well, it's really great to have you back on the show. What are you going to be playing for us next?
Next is Life On Earth. Great! How beautiful! What a professional.
Thank you so much. Gary Lightbody, Johnny McDaid.
Snow Patrol. We'll enjoying them later.
Could you go back over there? Thank you.
We'll be enjoying them in a moment. Over here.
Don't go anywhere until I'm ready. Come back over here.
Right. Now I'm ready. OK, thank you very much.
So, now, a wonderful new artist from Northumberland who is
starting to make indentations in America.
We welcome Jade Bird.
CHEERING
# I was 19 and you were 23 and
# We stayed in number 4 Ferdinand Street
# We spent five talking about our lives
# But we'd talked like that about a thousand times
# And I'm bored of all that
# You used to tell me that love is a lottery
# You got your numbers and you're betting on me
# You used to say that love is a game but
# You got you numbers and you play it anyway
# I'll tell you about a guy that I've been with
# You ask, "How old is he?" And I laugh, "26"
# "Nah, but he's 30 How messed up is that?"
# "Oh, forget it," he says "I'm a jealous man
# "And I don't want to talk about that"
# You used to tell me that love is a lottery
# You got your numbers And you're betting on me
# You used to say that Love is a game but
# You got your numbers And you play it anyway
# Are you still betting on me?
# Hold on, my dear Hold on real tight
# It's just a numbers game In my mind
# And we've been here A thousand times
# A thousand times A thousand
# You used to tell me that love is a lottery
# You got your numbers And you're betting on me
# You used to say that
# Love is a game But you got your numbers
# And you play it anyway Are you still betting on me?
# You used to tell me that love is a lottery
# You got your numbers and you're betting on me
# You used to say that Love is a game but
# You got your numbers and you play it anyway
# Are you still betting on me?
# Baby. #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
The wonderful sound of Jade Bird. And now enjoy Snow Patrol.
APPLAUSE
# The first snow the first winter of my life
# I was told it was the height of me
# The first dance Well, the first one that counted
# Felt like my blood was built from crackling lights
# All this ancient wildness
# That we don't understand
# The first sound of a heartbeat
# To riots roaring on
# This is not a love you've had before
# This is something else This is something else
# This is not the same as other days
# This is something else This is something else
# Shouldn't need to be so fucking hard
# This is life on earth It's just life on earth
# It doesn't need to be the end of you or me
# This is life on earth It's just life on earth
# The first light
on the silent shore
# It's just the ships at anchor me and you
# The way home This is always the way home
# So you can rip that map to shreds, my dear
# But all we ever wanted
# See miles and miles from here
# In the first days in a strange new land
# We can be sinners
# This is not love you've had before
# This is something else This is something else
# This is not the same as other days
# This is something else This is something else
# Shouldn't need to be so fucking hard
# This is life on earth It's just life on earth
# It doesn't need to be the end of you or me
# This is life on earth It's just life on earth
# Oh oh oh oh
# Hey Oh oh oh oh
# Oh oh oh oh
# Hey Oh oh oh oh
# Shouldn't need to be so fucking hard
# This is life on earth It's just life on earth
# It doesn't need to be the end of you or me
# This is life on earth It's just life on earth. #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
# I...
# Ain't nothing I could say
# Nothing I can do
# I feel so bad, yeah I feel so blue
# Oh, my
# I got to make it right For everyone concerned
# Even if it's me If it means it's me
# The one's getting burned
# Cos I could never make you unhappy
# No, I wouldn't do that, girl
# Only wish I didn't love you so
# Makes it so very hard to go
# So very hard to go
# Cos I love you so So very hard to go
# I love you so
# I...
# I knew the time would come
# I'd have to pay for my mistakes
# I can't blame you for what you're doing to me, girl
# Even though my heart aches Oh, child
# Your dreams have all come true Just the way you planned them
# So I'll just step aside I'm gonna step aside
# And lend a helping hand
# Cos I could never make you unhappy
# No, I wouldn't do that, girl
# Only wish I didn't love you so
# Makes it so very hard to go
# So very hard to go
# Cos I love you so So very hard to go
# I love you so
# I...
# Cos I could never make you unhappy
# No, I wouldn't do that, girl
# Only wish I didn't love you so
# Makes it so very hard to go
# So very hard to go
# Cos I love you so So very hard to go
# Hey, I love you so So very hard to go
# And it ain't easy to walk away when a man loves somebody
# So very hard to go Hey, hey, hey
# I...
# Ooh...#
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Lovely singing, lovely band, lovely words, lovely music, lovely song, lovely the lot.
Tower of Power!
CHEERING
My next guest has made a record of Bob Dylan songs.
She's a remarkable and brilliant artist.
I took the opportunity to have an intimate chat with her
earlier today in my dressing room.
So, Bettye, I'd like to, as we're in the intimacy of my dressing room,
in the quietitude here...
Uh-huh... ..to help you go back into the past.
You were only 17, is that right, 17, when your first hit...?
I turned 17 that first January after my first record,
so I was 16 when I recorded it.
And I mean, that's very young to have a big hit.
It must've changed your life completely. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
It had been my complete intention to be a groupie, you know?
And somebody said, "You can sing." And that was it.
I mean, Jools, it literally all happened in a week.
I was at the dance one weekend, we went into the studio
on a Monday, the record came out on Friday.
In 1962 in Detroit, you could do that.
Atlantic bought it the next week, and... There you go!
Was it very difficult being a young woman, being a woman in the music industry then?
Was it different? I don't think it was as hard as it is now.
Because we didn't want to do anything but sing and dress up and look cute.
Now we want to produce and write and all that.
And the woman who produced my first record had to be
one of the first black female producers in the world. Who was that?
Johnnie Mae Matthews.
And when I started singing,
she, Berry Gordy and the guy who had The Falcons, Robert West,
they were in heated competition against each other.
Those were the biggest black producers in Detroit.
And Berry Gordy being the lesser of them both.
And, of course, all of those people had amazing songs, didn't they? Yes.
Incredible songs to work with. Yes.
And now, speaking of people who have great songs,
you've just done a Bob Dylan record. Right.
When were you first aware of Bob Dylan and his songs?
When he first became...Bob Dylan! When he first became Bob?
You know, I started singing shortly after that,
you know, so I certainly knew all of those early records.
I really was not a follower of Bob Dylan,
but this was an idea conceived by a very good friend of mine
who happened to have the right telephone number.
And she called and Verve loved the idea.
And I said, "Now what am I going to do?!"
SHE LAUGHS
So, I just had to... He's very much like an old woman, you know?
He complains about everything. Bob? Bob. And I'm an old woman, so...
You get on famously!
I just finished his arguments for him, cos, you know, when you
argue with a black woman,
she can get it done in four verses, not nine.
The song you're going to do in a moment has got a particularly strong resonance.
Tell us what drew you to that song.
Larry Campbell is on the recording,
and he said that the song was either somebody Bob wanted to go to bed with and didn't,
or went to bed with and couldn't get over it, or whatever.
But for some reason the words,
because I was such a forward teenager,
"you used to walk the floor, bowed down, but yet, Mama, you been on my mind,"
it reminded me of my mother.
So, when I got around the piano with Larry Campbell and Leon Pendarvis and started to sing it,
they immediately understood. We did this album in three days.
They understood everything I said, and... It just, I don't know.
The words were so...hurtful to me
I couldn't subscribe them to just a woman. Just some woman.
# Perhaps it's the colour of the sun cut flat
# Covering the crossroads where I'm standing at
# Or maybe it's the weather or something like that
# Mama, you been on my mind
# Although I caused you trouble
# You didn't put me down or get upset
# I ain't pleading or saying I can't forget
# You used to walk the floor Bowed down and bent
# But yet Mama, you been on my mind
# Even though my eyes are hazy and my thoughts they might be narrow
# Where I went didn't put you down Bring you down with sorrow
# You didn't even know where I'd be wakin' up tomorrow
# Mama, you been on my mind
# You never asked me to say words like yes or no
# You always understood me never tried to tell me where to go
# I'm just whispering to myself so I can pretend I don't know
# Mama, you been on my mind
# When I wake up in the morning, Ma and look into the mirror
# I see you standing next to me
# Although I know you're not here
# When I see my reflection I can see you just as clear
# Mama, you been on my mind
# Mama, Mama, you been on my mind
# My mama
# You're always on my mind. #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Fantastic. Bettye LaVette.
Bob Dylan's Mama, You Been On My Mind.
Now we welcome back Shame.
# Do you feel alone? Well, sometimes I do
# Do you feel replaced? Feel like there's nothing at all
# Fearing the unknown Stare into the abyss
# Craving escape Waiting for the call
# And are you really here? I pull the curtains close
# Are you really her? I watch the paint run dry
# Measure money with fear We can stay afloat
# Finding gold in the dirt At least we can try
# And is she with you now? No, she's never around
# Is she hearing me? Not one little bit
# Raise a plucked eyebrow Covered in concrete
# Covered in concrete Just like dirt
# Will the questions stop? I feel the temperatures rise
# Will the answers end? I see another one coming for me
# Monitored from the top As the unit bends
# No more, no more, no more questions
# And how does it feel?
# How does it taste?
# Would you rather it's real?
# Or would you rather it's fake?
# We can bring you up
# And we can bring you close
# The time has passed for luck
# And now it's time for hope
# And I hope that you're hearing me And I hope that you're hearing me
# No more, no more, no more questions
# No more, no more No more, no more
# No more, no more
# And when the answers trickle thin
# You and I can finally think
# About the words in which we gave
# Were they condemned or were they praised?
# What was their worth? What was their mean?
# Laugh as they simply meant
# Nothing. #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Thank you, Shame, with Concrete.
Just got back from an exhausting tour, they were telling me earlier.
And now I have one of the founders
and the leader of Tower Of Power, and the lovely lead singer.
We have Emilio Castillo and Marcus Scott.
CHEERING
Emilio, it's great... Let me start with you.
Very pleased that you're here. Now, Tower Of Power, 50 years.
First of all, congratulations! CHEERING
Thank you. Thank you very much.
What is the key to the longevity of this amazing group?
Well, these days, my patented answer to that is - God did it,
I just showed up.
My first 20 years I did everything, every mistake I could possibly make.
Well, you've more than made up for it now. I think so.
When did you get... When did Marcus join up? Couple of years ago.
Great, isn't he? What a voice! Fabulous. Fabulous voice.
Thank you. This sort of music is so great. What were you listening to?
What was the stuff, when you were growing up, what were you hearing?
Soul music. That's what it comes out of. Soul music, yeah.
I love great singers, you know, like Gladys Knight,
Johnnie Taylor, James Brown.
And great songwriters like Burt Bacharach, and all those Brill Building writers.
I love rhythm.
But then, Marcus, what were you listening to?
Had you been listening to them? Yes, I have.
Actually I used to sit next to the radio as a child
and just mimic everything I heard.
And, of course, I stumbled across So Very Hard To Go and What Is Hip?
And yeah, amazing songs, and they still are amazing,
so I'm pretty much living my dream now.
But What Is Hip? That's an interesting song, that, isn't it?
Because when is that song from? 1973?
'72, yeah. OK. That could be about something today, couldn't it?
Well, that's the point. What's hip today just might become passe.
Yeah. Or the other way round.
So, we've got a bit of a clip of you early on.
This is What Is Hip? in 1973. OK. And it was then.
# What is hip? Tell me, tell me if you think you know
# What is hip? If you really hip the passing years will show
# You on a hip trip Maybe hipper than hip
# What is hip? Yeah
# Hipness is What it is
# And sometimes hipness is What it ain't. #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Emilio, could you give us an idea, that was around 1973, I think,
something like that.
Things were different there, the hair was different, the cars were different.
Nobody had a mobile phone, nobody downloaded anything, you know.
It's like a different world altogether.
How would you describe it?
Well, it was a lot of partying going on. Yeah.
So, we're just glad we lived to tell about it. Yeah. LAUGHTER
Is it still the same sort of partying going on,
or have they toned it down a little bit?
It never tones down. Party's always here.
I got the feeling they might have got you into the group
because they thought, "We want to ramp this party up a little bit."
I think it's like the other way round. I've always been a soul man,
but these guys have amplified the energy that I have.
As you can see. Look at the jacket, man. LAUGHTER
Exactly. Before you joined them, you had one like this, I remember. Yeah, I did.
That's right, exactly. About three of them.
Any advice? You have stayed on for a long time.
What advice would you give to a young person starting to play music now?
Play with a passion. You know? Don't chase trends.
Just make the music that you like and make it to the
best of your ability, and don't chase trends.
Play with passion.
Very good advice indeed. Thanks to you both.
I tell you, great voice, hasn't he? Great voice. Cor!
Thank you so much. Lovely jacket, too. Both of you.
I'll swap you later on.
Thank you very much.
And we now... Thank you, Emilio, thank you, Marcus,
we'll be hearing more from them later.
We now welcome back at this end of the room - it's a long way, but we can get there - Plan B.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
# You been living on the edge
# So long that you've gone out your mind
# Trying to think of things to say
# Looks like you've run out of lies
# Deep inside your heart
# You know you've taken this too far
# I knew it from the start
# You were going to make it hard
# You've got something you're trying to hide
# Tell me something What's the surprise?
# I see loving up in your eyes
# I can see love
# So why do you make me wait so long
# So long for your love
# Why do I have to wait so long? So long for your love
# So long for your love
# You keep telling me to wait
# You said that's what you do to guys
# Will you give me what I want?
# All I can do is try
# I see it in your face
# I can tell it when you lie
# No need to tell me straight
# I can read between the lines
# You've got something you're trying to hide
# Tell me something What's the surprise?
# I see loving up in your eyes
# I can see love
# So why do you make me wait so long?
# So long for your love For your love
# Oh, why do I have to wait so long?
# So long for your love
# What keeps holding you? What is holding you up?
# Oh, no Why do I have to wait so long?
# So long for your love
# Holding on, holding on to your pride
# No, you can let go
# I don't mind I don't mind
# You can take up all my time
# I'll be there watching you Waiting for you like before
# I'll be there wanting you
# No matter how long that is for
# So why do you make me wait so long?
# So long for your love
# Why do you make me wait so long?
# So long for your love
# What keeps holding you?
# What keeps holding you up?
# Why do I have to wait so long? So long for your love
# So long for your love. #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
# Ah, yeah
# I know a place where people ring true
# The sort of place they really care about you
# It's kind of rough but that's all right with me
# Cos I dig the vibe and I like the company
# It's a world away
# That's what the people say
# Where you can sing your song
# And do it all night long
# On the soul side of town On the soul side of town
# On the soul side of town Soul side
# It's not a place that people point you to
# But you can find it with your own point of view
# Everybody's welcome no matter who you are
# It's one big family and everyone's a star
# It's a world away
# That's what the people say
# Where you can free your mind
# Leave all your cares behind
# On the soul side of town On the soul side of town
# On the soul side of town Soul side
# Soul side. #
Come on, Roger A Smith.
# Digging this, yeah
# Whoa
# Hey
# Oh
# Hey
# On the soul side of town Can you hear me out there?
# Soul side On the soul side of town
# On the soul side of town Soul side
# My neighbourhood On the soul side of town
# Where love is colour-blind Soul
# On the soul side
Ah, ah
# On the soul side Soul
# On the soul side Hey!
# Do do do do
# Soul Soul power
# Soul power
# A world away
# That's what the people say
# It's the place to be
# Set you free Set you free
# On the soul side of town. #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Thank you, Tower Of Power.
The title track from their new album, Soul Side Of Town.
And now let's finish the show off with the wonderful people
we started with, it's Snow Patrol.
CHEERING
# Whoa whoa whoa whoa
# You're angry but you don't know how to be less yet
# It seems too much went wrong and all at once
# Resistance seems impossible from down this low
# Surely no-one else can feel like this
# But on the streets
# You can see them gathering And in your heart
# You know they feel like you do
# Sound and pulse and volume
# Hands just reaching out for air
# This is almost overload
# Said almost overload
# Friends and foes and princes
# Are all just human in the end
# This is so damn simple
# Standing in the steady throng of restless hope
# You don't feel like an outcast any more
# Something deep inside of you has wakened up
# And you know that nothing's going to be the same again
# On the streets
# You can see for what seems miles
# Because in your heart
# You know they feel like you do
# Sound and pulse and volume
# Hands just reaching out for air
# This is almost overload
# Friends and foes and princes are all just human in the end
# This is so damn simple here
# This is so damn simple
# Your mind won't be still
# It may not again
# You don't think it will
# But it will It will
# Sound and pulse the volume
# Hands just reaching out for air
# This is so damn simple here
# This is so damn simple
# This is so damn simple here
# This is so damn simple
# This is so damn simple here
# This is so damn simple. #
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
The super-talented Snow Patrol.
So, thank you... Stay still till I come there.
Thank you to all of my guests.
I shall be back on Tuesday with Manic Street Preachers, Ben Howard and much, much more.
I hope you've enjoyed being here with us on Sunday night for the first time.
And I'd now like to invite Tower Of Power to give us
a little bit of a groove that we can all join in with.
What have you got, fellas?
GROOVE STARTS
Thank you! Be seeing you!
# Clap your hands everybody
# That's it, that's it
# Woo!
# Got to get on down... #