, GOOD NIGHT FROM WASHINGTON, I
AM SHANNON BREAM.
Tucker: GOOD EVENING.
WELCOME TO "TUCKER CARLSON
TONIGHT."
THE WEATHER SYSTEM KNOWN AS
THE BOMB CYCLONE SPREAD ITS
ICY TENTACLES ALL OVER THE --
TENTACLES ALL OVER THE
COUNTRY.
THE SEVERE LOWS ARE PRESENT TO
YOU AS PROOF OF GLOBAL
WARMING.
WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THAT LATER.
BUT FIRST REPUBLICANS IN
CONGRESS ARE DEMANDING AN
INVESTIGATION IN TO
CHRISTOPHER STEEL, THE AUTHOR
OF THE INFAMOUS TRUMP DOSSIER
DOMINATED POLITICS IN THIS
COUNTRY FOR A YEAR.
THE FOX CHIEF INTELLIGENCE
CORRESPONDENT IS ALL OVER
THIS.
THIS IS THE FIRST CRIMINAL
REFERRAL FROM CONGRESS AS PART
OF THE RUSSIAN INVESTIGATION.
THE REPUBLICAN CHAIRMAN CHUCK
GRASSLEY WHO HAS OVERSIGHT TO
THE F.B.I., JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
WITH LINDSEY GRAHAM BELIEVES
THERE IS A VIOLATION OF LYING
TO THE FEDERAL AUTHORITIES
KNOWN AS THE MARTHA STEWART
STATUTE.
ACCORDING TO THE LETTER MADE
PUBLIC TODAY, THEY BELIEVE
POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS FOR FALSE
STATEMENTS LED CHRIS
DISTRIBUTION OF THE
UNVERIFIED TRUMP DOSSIER AND
HALF A DOZEN MEDIA OUTLETS
WERE BRIEFED BEFORE THE
ELECTION.
HE WAS -- IN THE MONTHS
LEADING UP TO THE ELECTION HE
TOLD STEEL TO BRIEF REPORTERS
TWICE AFTER NO REPORTERS RAN
WITH THE STORY.
THE PROJECT WAS FUNDED BY THE
D.N.C. -- FUNDED BY THE D.N.C.
AND CLINTON CAMPAIGN.
HE SAYS IT'S ABOUT A PERCEIVED
DOUBLE STANDARD WHEN THE TRUMP
ASSOCIATES WERE PROSECUTED FOR
LYING TO THE F.B.I.
THE SAME STANDARD SHOULD APPLY
TO OTHERS IN POLITICS.
TONIGHT A SENIOR SENATE
DEMOCRAT CALLED IT PAR
THIS IS A COMPLETE LIST.
WE LEARNED THAT PAUL MANAFORT,
KIND OF SLEAZY IN THE BUSINESS
DEALINGS.
MIKE FLYNN PROBABLY SHOULD
HAVE HAD A LAWYER WHEN TALKING
TO THE F.B.I.
TRUMP AGREED WE SHOULD CHANGE
RUSSIA POLICY AND THEY CALLED
THE DIPLOMATS.
WE LEARNED RUSSIA BOUGHT
$100,000 IN FACEBOOK AD AND
R.T. FUNDED IN PART BY THE
PUTIN GOVERNMENT.
I KNEW ALL OF THAT BEFORE.
WHERE IS THE COLLUSION PART
THAT JUSTIFIED THIS WHOLE
EXERCISE?
THAT IS THE PART THAT
MUELLER IS STILL LOOKING AT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY LOOKING AT
THIS IS A CRAZY LONG TIME.
LOOK AT WHITE WATER.
KEN STARR TOOK OVER FOR YEARS TO
GET THAT DONE.
LOOK AT BENGHAZI.
EIGHT COMMITTEES.
Tucker: IS THE WHITEWATER
INVESTIGATION A MODEL YOU WANT
TO SEE REPLICATED?
I THINK ROBERT MUELLER WAS
PICKED FOR THE JOB BECAUSE HIS
DIGNITY, AND HIS ABILITY TO LOOK
AT THE FACTS.
HE IS A REPUBLICAN.
HE WAS PICKED --
Tucker: IF YOU ARE
ATTACKING MUELLER.
NO, LOOK.
HE IS.
Tucker: YOU HAVEN'T SEEN
THIS SHOW CALLED FOR HIM TO BE
FIRED OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
I'M MORE INTERESTED WITH THOSE
BARKING LIKE DOGS FOR LAST
YEAR ABOUT HOW RUSSIA
SUBVERTED THE ELECTION, THE
DEMOCRACY IS IN PERIL.
DONALD TRUMP WAS IN LEAGUE
WITH RUSSIA.
IF ANY OF THAT WERE TRUE I'D
BE UPSET ABOUT IT.
NONE OF IT TURNS OUTS TO BE
TRUE AND NO ONE ADMITS THEY
WERE WRONG.
IT WAS ALL A LIE.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS TRUE.
THERE ARE TWO THINGS.
WHETHER RUSSIA MEDDLED IN THE
ELECTION.
AND WHETHER DONALD TRUMP'S
CAMPAIGN HAD ANYTHING TO DO
WITH THAT.
THIS IS WHAT HE IS LOOKING AT,
THE COLLUSION PART.
GIVE HIM TIME.
IT TAKES TIME.
MIKE FLYNN, THE NATIONAL
SECURITY ADVISOR, PLED GUILTY.
Tucker: WHAT DID HE PLEAD
GUILTY TO?
HE PLED GUILTY TO LYING --
I'M NOT HERE TO DEFEND
IMPEACHMENT OF BILL CLINTON OR
WHITE WATER.
YOU LIVED THROUGH BOTH OF THEM
AND IT WOULD GIVE YOU
APPRECIATION FOR HOW FAR
AFIELD THE INVESTIGATIONS CAN
GO AND THE COST TO THE
INVESTIGATION.
THAT IS THE POINT I'M MAKING.
IF THERE IS COLLUSION --
ONE ABOUT BENGHAZI?
BENGHAZI WENT ON FOR FOUR
YEARS.
EIGHT CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEES
HELD BY REPUBLICANS.
Tucker: HERE IS MY POINT.
I'M NOT HERE TO SAY THAT THE
BENGHAZI INVESTIGATION BORE
FRUIT.
MY POINT IS --
I HAVE GOT AN ADMISSION
FROM YOU TONIGHT.
Tucker: I NEVER SAID
ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT.
THE CHARGE HERE IS THAT THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN COLLUDED WITH
THE FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO
SUBVERT DEMOCRACY OF THE
UNITED STATES.
THAT IS TREASON.
THAT IS A CHARGE REPEATED BY A
LOT OF LEADERS ON THE
DEMOCRATIC SIDE IN CONGRESS.
NOT JUST THE CRACK BOTHS.
AND STEVE BANNON.
Tucker: AND MAY BE
STEVE BANNON ALSO.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF IT.
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ROBERT
MUELLER DOES OR DOESN'T KNOW.
HE IS DOING HIS JOB.
HIS JOB IS NOT TO TELL US
IT'S THE ENTIRE AMERICAN
PRESS CORPS.
NOTHING ELSE MATTERS RIGHT
NOW EXCEPT FOR BOB MUELLER.
HE IS HIS JOB TO GET TO THE
BOTTOM OF IT.
DOES IT BOTHER YOU --
LOOK IN THE END --
IT BOTHERS ME WE DON'T GIVE
HIM TIME AND SPACE TO DO HIS
Tucker: HE HAS SPACE.
HE HAS UNLIMITED BUDGET.
THERE IS AN EXPIRATION DATE
ON THIS.
PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT.
Tucker: AS AN AMERICAN --
WOULD IT BOTHER YOU IF AT THE
END OF THIS INVESTIGATION, YOU
HAVE PEOPLE FOR CRIMES COMMITTED
BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN LIKE PAUL
MANAFORT OR YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE
GENERAL FLYNN, WHO GOT CAUGHT IN
A MISSTATEMENT WITH THE FBI,
PERJURY CHARGE.
IS NOBODY CHARGED FOR THE CORE
ALLEGATION
SO FAR.
Tucker: COLLUSION.
SO FAR.
Tucker: DO YOU BELIEVE
SOMEONE WILL BE CHARGED?
I BELIEVE WE WILL FIND OUT
BECAUSE WE WILL GIVE ROBERT
MUELLER THE TIME.
HE WILL TAKE THE TIME.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
MANAFORT AND FLYNN AND
PAPADOPOULOS.
THESE GUYS, FLYNN, WHAT HE DID
WAS IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE
CAMPAIGN AND DURING THE
CAMPAIGN.
PAPADOPOULOS WAS DURING THE
CAMPAIGN.
THESE ARE NOT 10-YEAR-OLD
CHARGES.
Tucker: CHARGES --
PAPADOPOULOS, THE MODEL U.N.
GUY.
LET'S BE REAL.
OKAY?
FLYNN WAS A REAL GUY.
HE WAS A KEY FOREIGN POLICY
ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT.
NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER.
Tucker: KEY ADVISER ON
THE CAMPAIGN.
PAPADOPOULOS HAS NOTHING TO DO
WITH ANYTHING.
FLYNN PLED GUILTY.
Tucker: IS THERE ANY --
TO LYING IN AN INTERVIEW.
IT'S POSSIBLE HE TOLD THE
AUTHORITIES SOMETHING MORE.
Tucker: IS IT POSSIBLE HE
HAS DONE ANYTHING THAT IS
ACTUALLY HARMFUL TO
U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY TO
TRADITIONS OF DEMOCRACY?
YES.
LEGALLY AND OTHERWISE.
I THINK THE GUYS ARE LUCKY
THAT BEING NAIVE ISN'T
CRIMINAL.
THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE REALIZED
THE RUSSIANS WERE PINGING
THEM.
TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
Tucker: IS THERE EVIDENCE
THEY DID SOMETHING WRONG.
NOT NAIVE OR STUPID BUT WHAT
WAS WRONG?
I'M CONFUSED.
MEETING WITH THE AGENTS OF
THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT TO
PROVIDE OPPOSITION RESEARCH ON
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IS
PROBABLY NOT THE MOST --
Tucker: REALLY?
UP THERE TO PAY MONEY FOR A
LAW FIRM THAT PAID RUSSIAN
AGENTS WITH THE HILLARY
CAMPAIGN?
IT'S UP THERE WITH THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY COMMISSIONING
THAT REPORT.
Tucker: IT WASN'T THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY.
IT WAS THE REPUBLICAN
ORGANIZATION.
Tucker: IT WAS A GUY WHO
HATED TRUMP.
A HEDGE FUND BILLIONAIRE
DIDN'T LIKE TRUMP.
STEELE WHO IS A RENOWN
BRITISH INTELLIGENT AGENT.
GRASSLEY AND GRAHAM, WHY DON'T
HAVE THEY HIM IN OPEN COURT?
TO GET MORE INFORMATION.
THEY MIGHT BE AFRAID TO
HEAR IT ALL.
Tucker: THANK YOU.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
Tucker: GOOD TO SEE YOU.
IT'S BEEN ALMOST FOUR MONTHS
SINCE PRESIDENT TRUMP
ANNOUNCED HIS INTENTION TO END
DACA, BARACK OBAMA'S PROGRAM
THAT HANDS OUT WORK PERMITS TO
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHO ARRIVED
IN HIS COUNTRY AS MINORS.
SINCE THAT TIME, LAWMAKERS
HAVE BEEN TRYING TO HAMMER OUT
A PLAN THAT WOULD PROTECT DACA
BENEFICIARIES FROM BEING
DEPORTED.
TRYING TO CUT A DEAL IS
REASONABLE.
BUT AMNESTY SHOULD ONLY BE
GIVEN IN RETURN FOR REAL AND
LONG-TERM IMMIGRATION REFORMS.
OTHERWISE IT WILL AMOUNT TO
ANOTHER BETRAYAL.
THE KIND THAT WE HAD SEEN THE
PAST 30 YEARS.
THE KIND THAT GOT TRUMP ELECT
IN THE THE FIRST PLACE.
AMERICA INTEREST FIRST WITH
FUTURE BORDER, THAT IS WHAT WE
HAVE FOR LONG TIME.
FIND A STRICTER IMMIGRATION LAWS
SHOULD NOT BE A HEAVY LIFT FOR
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
AMERICANS WANTED.
WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE A NEW
POLL BY NUMBERS USA ASKED
LIKELY VOTERS HOW THEY FELT
ABOUT THE VARIOUS ASPECT OVER
THE IMMIGRATION POLICY.
THE ANSWER SOUNDED A LOT LIKE
A TRUMP CAMPAIGN SPEECH.
CONSIDER CHAIN MIGRATION.
57% OF THE LIKELY VOTERS SAID
IF DACA BENEFICIARIES GET
AMNESTY THEY SHOULDN'T BE
ALLOWED TO BRING FAMILY
MEMBERS HERE.
31% OF THE VOTERS DISAGREED
WITH THAT.
HOW ABOUT THE DIVERSITY
LOTTERY?
THAT IS THE PROGRAM THAT
SELECTS 50,000 PEOPLE EVERY
YEAR TO ENTER THE UNITED
STATES.
GIVES THEM VISAS.
THEY ARE SELECTED AT RANDOM
WITHOUT REGARD TO ANY
QUALIFICATIONS, ENGLISH, OR
JOB SKILL OR ANY OTHER FIT.
50% SAID IT SHOULD BE
ABOLISHED ENTIRELY.
ONLY 29% SUPPORTED IT.
EVERIFY IS A PROGRAM TO ALLOW
EMPLOYERS CHECK THE LEGAL
STATUS OF PEOPLE THEY WILL
HIRE.
57% OF THE LIKELY VOTERS SAY
THE CONGRESS SHOULD REQUIRE
EVERIFY FOR ALL HIRING SOMETHING
THEY CAN'T CLAIM IGNORANCE
WHEN THEY HIRE ILLEGALS.
VOTERS ARE NOT JUST OPPOSED TO
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
A STRONG MAJORITY WANTS TO CUT
ALL IMMIGRATION, INCLUDING
LEGAL ACROSS THE BOARD.
THIS COUNTRY ADMITS A MILLION
LEGAL IMMIGRANTS A YEAR.
60% OF THOSE ASKED WOULD LIKE
TO CUT THE NUMBER IN HALF.
IF NOT MORE.
POLITICAL TERMS THE NUMBERS
ARE HUGE.
REPUBLICAN WOULD KILL FOR
SUPPORT ON ALL KIND OF OTHER
ISSUES.
ALL KINDS OF OTHER ISSUES.
RESTRICTING IMMIGRATION IS
MORE POPULAR THAN DEFUNDING
PLANNED PARENTHOOD OR CUTTING
TAXERS FOR THE WEALTHY OR
CRACKING DOWN ON MARIJUANA,
BOMBING DISTANT COUNTRIES.
MORE POPULAR THAN ALL OF THAT.
IT'S ALSO THE MAIN THING THAT
PRESIDENT TRUMP RAN ON LAST
YEAR AND THE CENTRAL REASON HE
WON IN THE UPSET VICTORY.
THIS SHOULD NOT BE HARD.
A MONTH AGO THE REPUBLICANS
UNITED TO PASS UNPOPULAR TAX
REFORM BILL.
THEY SHOULD COME TOGETHER TO
PASS A FAR MORE POPULAR FORM
OF IMMIGRATION REFORM.
SOMEHOW, THAT IS NOT HAPPENING.
BUT THE OPPOSITE IS HAPPENING.
A NUMBER OF SENATORS REPAIRED
TO CAVE COMPLETELY ON THIS
QUESTION AGREEING TO AMNESTY
WITH NO SERIOUS CONCESSION IN
RETURN.
ONE PROPOSAL WOULD DELAY CHAIN
MIGRATION
RATHER THAN ENDING IT AND
REALLOCATE THE LOTTERY VISAS
TO A DIFFERENT CLASS OF
UNSKILLED IMMIGRANTS.
NOT ONLY WOULD A DEAL LIKE
THAT HURT THE COUNTRY, VOTERS
SAID CLEARLY AGAIN AND AGAIN
THEY DON'T WANT IT.
THIS IS A DEMOCRACY AFTER ALL.
OR AT LEAST IT WAS.
YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO WHAT
VOTERS WANT IF YOU ARE A
LAWMAKER.
IF YOU SEE THAT DEAL COME OUT
OF CONGRESS, AND YOU MAY, THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY IS DONE, IT'S
OVER, IT'S TOAST.
A SHORT EPITATH, TOO.
SUICIDE.
CONGRESSMAN DUFFY A REPUBLICAN
REPRESENTING WISCONSIN.
THANK YOU FOR COMING ON.
GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.
HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Tucker: HAPPY NEW YEAR.
THE POLL NUMBERS ARE STRIKING
TO ME BECAUSE THEY SHOW THAT
THE PUBLIC IS TOUGHER ON
INGRID IMMIGRATION, INCLUDING
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
EVEN THAN THE
CURRENT PRESIDENT WAS DURING
THE CAMPAIGN.
I'M WONDERING IF THE NEWS
FILTERED DOWN TO REPUBLICANS
IN THE CONGRESS WHO SEEM MORE
LIBERAL ON IMMIGRATION THAN
THE VOTERS.
LISTEN I DON'T KNOW THAT
THE CONGRESS IS THAT LIBERAL.
IF THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT
THAT LIBERAL IN CONGRESS.
WE HAVE THE OUTLIERS THAT
WOULDN'T MIND A DACA AMNESTY
FIX WITHOUT BORDER SECURITY
FIX BUT A FAST MAJORITY OF
REPUBLICANS STAND WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP.
WE WANT TO FIX THE SITUATION
WE HAVE WITH THE DACA KIDS.
WE THINK THAT IS REASONABLE
AND FAIR BUT WE WANT TO SECURE
A BORDER AND BUILD A WALL AND
FIX CHAIN MIGRATION AND FIX
LOTTERY SEASON.
IF THE DEMOCRATS DON'T START
TO NEGOTIATE FAIRLY ON THE
ISSUE, THERE WILL BE NO DEAL
FOR THE DACA KIDS.
I GET YOUR CONCERN.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU WHAT.
I SIT INSIDE REPUBLICAN
CONFERENCES, AND THERE IS GREAT
UNITY AROUND HERE, FIXING THE
ROOT CAUSE THAT CONTINUES TO
BRING NEW PEOPLE AND, WHO JUST
PACKED THEIR BAGS.
THEY DECIDE TO COME INTO THEIR
COUNTRY ON OUR OWN.
WE BELIEVE
AMERICANS CAN PICK AND CHOOSE
WHO COMES IN THEIR COUNTRY.
WE WANT PEOPLE COMING IN FROM
M.I.T. OR HARVARD OR LOVE
AMERICA OR -- M.I.T. OR WHAT
VARD OR LOVE AMERICA AND WANT
TO WORK OR THE DARELY FARMS.
WE NEED PEOPLE WHO LOVE TO
WORK AND LOVE THE COUNTRY AND
WE GET TO PICK AND CHOOSE.
YOU DON'T JUST PACK A BAG AND
COME ACROSS THE BORDER.
Tucker: PARDON MY
SKEPTICISM.
THE PRESIDENT RUNS AM CAMPAIGN
DIFFERENT FROM THE 17 OTHER
CAMPAIGNS REPUBLICANS ARE
RUNNING IN ONE RESPECT.
HE IS TOUGH ON IMMIGRATION.
HE SAYS HE WANTS TO BUILD A
WALL.
WE ARE A YEAR IN.
REPUBLICANS UNIFIED TO PASS AN
UNPOPULAR TAX BILL.
THEY TRIED TO GET HEALTHCARE
THROUGH.
THEY DID ALL MANNER OF THINGS.
THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN TOGETHER
TO DO, THAT THE ONE THING HE
RAN ON.
WHY IS THAT?
I HATE TO GET IN THE WEEDS
WITH YOU BUT YOU KNOW WE COULD
PASS A FUNDING BILL FOR THE
WALL IN THE HOUSE.
BUT WE CAN'T PASS THAT IN THE
SENATE, THOUGH THE REPUBLICANS
CONTROL THE SENATE THEY HAVE A
FILIBUSTER RULE.
YOU NEED 60 VOTES SO NINE
DEMOCRATS HAVE TO VOTE FOR THE
FUNDING.
THAT BECOMES CHALLENGING FOR
US.
I WOULD LOVE IF THE
REPUBLICANS COULD RAM THROUGH
A FUNDING BILL FOR THE WALL
BUT THAT IS NOT THE REALITY OF
POLITICS IN THE SENATE.
SO WE HAVE TO LEVERAGE DACA IN
EXCHANGE FOR BORDER SECURITY
AND OTHER IMMIGRATION REFORM.
THAT IS THE WAY THE SENATE
WORKS.
I DON'T LIKE IT BUT THAT IS
THE TRUTH.
Tucker: TO GET TO ONE OF
THE KEY QUESTIONS IN THE
NEGOTIATION.
CHAIN MIGRATION.
MOST PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS AND
SAY, YOU CAME IN THE COUNTRY
ILLEGALLY.
MAYBE YOUR PARENTS BROUGHT TO
YOU HERE OR YOU CAME AN
UNACCOMPANIED MINOR.
IT'S ILLEGAL.
YOU SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO
BRING ALL YOUR RELATIVES WITH
YOU.
WHAT NUMBER OF REPUBLICAN
DISAGREE WITH THE STATEMENT IN
THE HOUSE?
VAST MAJORITY AGREE IF YOU
ARE A DACA CHILD YOU SHOULDN'T
BE ABLE TO BRING IN YOUR
PARENTS THROUGH THE CHAIN
MIGRATION.
BUT TAKE A STEP BACK.
DEMOCRATS WANT THE CHILDREN TO
BE CITIZENS IN FIVE YEARS.
THEN THROUGH CHAIN MIGRATION
BRING THEIR PARENTS IN LEGALLY
WHO BROUGHT THE CHILD IN
UNLAWFULLY.
THIS IS INSANE.
THE REPUBLICANS WON'T STAND
FOR THAT.
THE REPUBLICANS MIGHT NOT HAVE
RUN ON IMMIGRATION REFORM BUT
THE POLL NUMBERS YOU CITED AND
THE SUCCESS OF TRUMP MADE IT
CLEAR WE CAN HAVE A STRONGER
BACKBONE AND FIGHT FOR
IMMIGRATION REFORM THAT WORKS
FOR THE COUNTRY.
THAT IS ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF
TRUMP AND HIM DRIVING A
MESSAGE OF THE EQUITY AND
FAIRNESS IN IMMIGRATION
REFORM.
I THINK THIS, THE REPUBLICANS
ARE GOING TO HOLD THE LINE.
IF THEY DON'T, I THINK WE
WILL, BUT IF THEY DON'T DONALD
TRUMP WON'T SIGN ANY
LEGISLATION THAT DOESN'T HAVE
A BORDER WALL FUNDING
COMPONENT TO IT.
HE IS NOT GOING TO SIGN IT.
Tucker: I DON'T KNOW
ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
I KNOW AND I'M CONVINCED WE
GOT TRUMP IN THE FIRST PLACE
BECAUSE CONGRESS IGNORED WHAT
VOTERS WANTED FOR 30 YEARS.
MADE PEOPLE MAD.
THANK YOU FOR COMING ON.
THANK YOU, TUCKER.
Tucker: THE F.B.I.
TONIGHT RENEWING THE
INVESTIGATION OF THE CLINTON
FOUNDATION.
WHICH STILL EXISTS.
WE HAVE MORE AHEAD.
PLUS WE WILL ASK
ACTIVISTS WHY THEY SAY EVERY
TYPE OF WEATHER IS PROOF THAT
GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL.
IS IT?
Tucker: SO WE ARE IN THE
MIDDLE OF SOMETHING CALLED THE
"BOMB CYCLONE."
WEATHER EVENT.
NOT SURE WHO CAME UP WITH IT.
OR WHAT IT MEANS BUT IT SENT
TEMPERATURES PLUNGING ALL OVER
THE COUNTRY.
THE SEVERE COLD PROMPTED
ASSERTIONS IT'S THE PRODUCT OF
COLD PROMPTED
ASSERTIONS IT'S THE PRODUCT OF
GLOBAL WARMING.
IT'S A RECURRING THEME IN
AMERICAN LIFE IN RECENT YEARS.
THE SPEED THAT CLIMATE
CHANGE IS HAPPENING IS CAUSED
BY HUMANS.
INSTEAD OF HAPPENING ON TIME
SCALES OF MILLIONS OF YEARS OR
HAPPENING ON A TIME SCALE OF
DECADES AND NOW YEARS.
CLIMATE CHANGE IS A
NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT
BECAUSE IT IS.DE N
WHY IS THE ARCTIC ICE SHELF
MELTING?
WHY ARE THE SEA LEVELS RISING?
WHY ARE THE HOTTEST
TEMPERATURES IN THE LAST
DECADE ESSENTIALLY THE HOTTEST
TEMPERATURES WE HAVE SEEN ON
RECORD?
IT SEEMS THAT CLIMATE
CHANGE IS HAPPENING FASTER
THAN WE THOUGHT AND MAYBE
WE'RE MORE VULNERABLE THAN WE
THOUGHT.
THE ENTIRE NORTH POLE IN
SOME OF THE SUMMER MONTHS
COULD BE COMPLETELY ICE FREE
WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE TO SEVENN
YEARS.
Tucker: IF YOU ARE
KEEPING TRACK AT HOME, LOW
TEMPERATURES ARE PROOF OF
GLOBAL WARMING AND HIGH
TEMPERATURES AND HURRICANES
ARE, AND DROUGHTS ARE TOO.
HOT OR COLD, WET OR DRY, ALL
OF IT IS PROOF HUMAN ACTIVITY
IS MAKING THE CLIMATE HOTTER.
QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY
WEATHER PHENOMENON THAT
DOESN'T PROVE GLOBAL WARMING.
A DOCUMENTARY DIRECTOR AND
ENVIRONMENTAL ACTIVISTS
JOINS US.
JOSH, THANK YOU FOR COMING ON.
GREAT TO BE ON AGAIN WITH
YOU.
EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID WAS
TRUE.D
THAT WAS AMAZING.
Tucker: WELL, LOOK, I'M
NOT -- LET ME JUST SAY AT THE
OUTSET I'M NOT HERE TO DEBATE
YOU.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY POSITION
IS..
I'M OPEN MINDED.
I BELIEVE IN SCIENCE.
OKAY.
I THINK EVIDENCE SHOULDLD
LEAD TO CONCLUSION, NOT THE
OTHER WAY AROUND.
WHY WOULDN'T I BE A LITTLE BIT
CONFUSED IF PEOPLE SAY THAT
HOT TEMPERATURES ARE SIGN OF
GLOBAL WARMING.
NOW THEY SAY COLD TEMPERATURES
ARE.
WET CONDITIONS ARE AND ALSO
DRY CONDITIONS.
HOW CAN IT ALL BE TRUE?ON
AGAIN, YOU ARE NOT REALLY B
STATING IT CORRECTLY.
I THINK WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING
ABOUT THE BOMB CYCLONE IS IT
IS A SIMILAR WEATHER EVENT TO
A HURRICANE.
WHICH IS TRUE.
WHAT CLIMATE CHANGE DOES AS A
RESULT OF WARMING IS IT
INCREASES THE EXTREME WEATHER
EVENTS.
RIGHT?
EXTREME COLD, EXTREME HOT.
IN THIS CASE, WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT EXTREME STORMS.
HURRICANE MARIA, HURRICANE
IRMA, HURRICANE HARVEY.
UNPRECEDENTED AND DISASTROUS
EVENTS IN TERMS OF THE CLIMATE.
THE BOMB CYCLONE IS SIMILAR.
Tucker: WAIT, HOLD ON.
WAIT, JUST STOP.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE IT
RIGHT.
YOU ARE NOT A SCIENTIST, SO
DON'T PATRONIZE ME.
GIVE ME A STRAIGHT ANSWER.
I WAS TOLD FOR THE LAST 15
YEARS THAT GLOBAL WARMING, THE
MAIN RESULT WAS HIGHER
TEMPERATURES.
WE ARE SEEING HIGHER
TEMPERATURES.
Tucker: BUT IF THIS TURNS
OUT TO BE AN UNUSUALLY COLDUR
YEAR AND IT LOOKS LIKE ITD
MAY --
NO.
IT'S COLD IN NEW YORK.
YOU ARE IN NEW YORK.
I'M IN LOUISIANA.
YESTERDAY I WAS IN ST. THOMAS
WHERE IT WAS 80 DEGREES.
THAT IS THE POINT.
THE HURRICANE AND THE CYCLONES
START WITH A WARMING ATLANTIC.
WHEN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN IS
WARMER IT EVAPORATES MORE
WATER IN THE AIR.
WHEN YOU HAVE MORE WATER IN
THE AIR, MORE WATER COMES
DOWN.
SO YOU SAW A HUGE DELUGE WITH
HARVEY, ALL THE WIND AND RAIN
WITH IRMA AND MARIA AND NOW
HUGE AMOUNT OF SNOW BECAUSE OF
THE WARMING TEMPERATURES IN
THE CARIBBEAN.
YOU KNOW THE STORMS COME FROM
FLORIDA.
WE KNOW THAT, RIGHT?
TUCKER?
Tucker: I'M NOT SURE WHAT
WE KNOW.
I'M EXPLAINING TO YOU THE
SCIENCE.
YOU ASKED ME ABOUT THE
SCIENCE.
Tucker: I DON'T KNOW HOW
MUCH YOU KNOW ABOUT SCIENCE.
I KNOW I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT
IT.
I HAVE A MAP HERE OF THE
WORLD TEMPERATURES.
THE BLUE RIGHT THERE, THAT IS T
NORTH AMERICA.
THAT MEANS IT'S COLDER THAN
AVERAGE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE REST OF THE
PLANET IT'S WARMER THAN
AVERAGE.
THAT MEANS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
GLOBAL WARMING, YOU LOOK AT
THE ENTIRE GLOBE.
NOT JUST NEW YORK CITY.
Tucker: I GET IT.
OH, I LIVE IN NEW YORK
CITY.
IT'S COLD IN NEW YORK CITY.
THAT IS NOT AN ARGUMENT.
THAT IS WHY THE FARMER'S
ALMANAC GOES BACK.
Tucker: I GET B IT.
YOU ARE FILIBUSTERS BECAUSE
YOU ARE FEARFUL OF ANSWERING A
STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTION.
HERE IS ONE.
FOUR YEARS AGO THE "NEW YORK
TIMES" DID A PIECE THAT I
REMEMBER READING PREDICTED --
I'M QUOTING -- THE DEATHMB OF
SNOW.
GLOBAL WARMING WAS GOING TO
END SNOW.
THEN THREE YEARS LATER WE HADNG
THE RECORD SNOW LAST WINTER.
ANOTHER EFFECT OF GLOBAL
WARMING.
IN THE SAME PERIOD THEY WROTE
THAT THE OVERABUNDANCE OF ICE
IS A SIGN OF GLOBAL WARMING
AND NOW LOOK OF ICE IS GLOBAL
WARMING.
THREE YEARS LATER, THE SALE LACK
OF ICE.
WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS NOT
TRUE.
Tucker: IT ISEL TRUE.
IT'S NOT TRUE.
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
Tucker: WHAT IS NOT TRUE
ABOUT IT?
LET ME TELL YOU WHY I CARE
ABOUT THIS.
I JUST SPENT THE ENTIRE
CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY ON
ST. THOMAS.
WHICH IS A TOWN THAT --
Tucker: DON'T BRAG.
IT WAS COMPLETELY RAVAGEDr:
BY HURRICANE MARIA
AND IRMA.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
NO --
Tucker: YOU WALKING OVER
MY QUESTION.RE
YOU ARE MAKING A GENERAL
STATE.
I WANT TO BE SPECIFIC. Y
THE QUESTION HAS NO BASIS
IN SCIENCE.
YOU ARE SAYING WE HAVE ONE
ARTICLE HERE AND ONE ARTICLE
THERE.
Tucker: I'M SAYING THE
SAME PEOPLE ARE MAKING
CONTRADICTORY CLAIMS.ucuc
GLOBAL CLIMATE RECORDS.
THE REASON I'M ON YOUR PROGRAM
RIGHT NOW IS OVER THE LAST
DECADE, I HAVE BEEN EXPLORING
FRACKING AND INVESTIGATING
CLIMATE CHANGE.
WHY?
I DON'T WANT PEOPLE'S CHILDREN
IN HARM'S WAY.
Tucker: JOSH, JOSH, NOW
YOU ARE MAKING -- YOU ARE
CALLING ATTENTION TO YOUR
MORAL VIRTUE.
YOU DEPARTED SCIENCE.
I'M ASKING YOU A SPECIFIC
QUESTION.
IN THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION --
Tucker: ALL OF YOU GUYS
GO WHEN ASKED A SIMPLE
QUESTION YOU GO I'M A GOOD
PERSON.TI
I CARE.
LIKE I TOLD YOU THE LAST
TIME.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND --
Tucker: WE ARE TRYING.
FRUSTRATING.
THANK YOU.
TRYING TO GET AN ANSWER.
COULDN'T.
THE HITS KEEP COMING FOR
THE NFL.
CONCUSSIONS ARE SCARY MORE
PEOPLE THAN EVER.
BARSTOOL SPORTS ONE OF THE
BEST SITE ON THE INTERNET IS
SUING THE NFL FOR STEALING ITS
SLOGAN.
Tucker: ANOTHER
INSTALLMENT TONIGHT OF DRUGS.
THAT IS THE ONGOING LOOK AT
THE OPIOID CRISIS THAT IS
KILLING MORE AMERICANS THAN
THE ENTIRE VIETNAM WAR DID
EVERY YEAR.
PERCOCET IS ONE OF THE MORE
POPULAR PAINKILLERS AND ONE OF
THE MOST COMMONLY ABUSED.
THE MUSICIAN, PRINCE, WAS
ADDICTED TO PERCOCET.
IT ALMOSTIB
CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTED TO HIS
EVENTUAL DEATH
FROM FENTANYL.
IT'S DANGEROUS DRUGS.
BUT POPULAR MUSICIANS STARTED
TO PROMOTE ABUSE OF IT.
A RAPPER HAD A SONG THAT
MENTIONS PERCOCET NO FEWERAP
THAN 18 TIMES.
NOT IN A CRITICAL WAY.
IT PEAKED AT NUMBER FIVE ON
THE BILLBOARD CHARTS AND THE
VIDEO RECEIVED 230 MILLION
VIEWS ON YouTube.
IN EFFECT IT'S AN AD FOR
PERCOCET.
AIMED AT A VERY YOUNG
AUDIENCE.
IT'S FAR FROM THE ONLY ONE.
THE SONG "GUCCI GAME" AND
"GRAMMYS" BY DRAKE, WE COULD
GO ON.
YOU MAY NOT LISTEN TO THE
MUSIC BUT YOUR KIDS OR GRAND
KIDS PROBABLY DO.
IMAGINE IF THIS WERE HAPPENING
WITH CIGARETTES?
IF THERE WAS A TOP FIVE HIT
TELLING KIDS TO SMOKE
NEWPORTS.
PEOPLE WOULD BE HORRIFIED.
THERE WOULD LIKELY BE HEARINGS
ON THE EFFECT OF CHILDREN'S
HEALTH.
IF AN ARTIST PROMOTES
PERCOCET, NO ONE SEEMS TO
NOTICE.
THAT IS ODD CONSIDERING OPIOID
OVERDOSES KILL MORE THAN
CIGARETTES DO.
IN A LOT OF PLACES THEY KILL
MORE THAN CAR CRASHES AND
GUNFIRE.HA
DRUG ABUSE ARE THE LEADING
CAUSE OF DEATH FOR AMERICANS
UNDER 50.
ENDO PHARMACEUTICAL OWNS THE
TRADEMARK FOR PERCOCET AND
THEY PROFIT FROM THE SALE.
THE COMPANY HAS TO KNOW
RECORDING ARTISTS ARE
PROMOTING THE PRODUCT TO KIDS.O
HOW COULD THEY NOT KNOW THAT?
BUT THEY HAVE SAID NOTHING
ABOUT IT.
THEY HAVEN'T ATTACKED A
PROMOTER FOR PUSHING PERCOCET.
THEY HAVEN'T THREATENED LEGAL
ACTION.
BUT A LAWYER SAID TODAY THAT
ENDO WOULD HAVE A CASE.
WE CONTACTED ENDO ABOUT THIS.
THEY RESPONDED BUT ONLY WITH
THE MINDLESS BOILERPLATE THAT
DIDN'T ADDRESS THE QUESTION.
THIS IS PART OF WHAT THEY
SAID --
INDO IS DEDICATED TO IT'S A
QUALITY PRODUCT WE SHARE THE
PUBLIC CONCERN REGARDING OPIOID ABUSE AND MISUSE.
PERCOCET IS FDA PRODUCT FOR ITS
INTENDED USE, AND IT DOES NOT
PROMOTE THE PRODUCT.
Tucker:, THERE IS AT
LEAST ONE HONEST LINE IN
THERE.
ENDO DOES NOT PROMOTE
PERCOCET.
RAP STARS DO IT FOR THEM.
IT HASN'T BEEN A GREAT YEAR
FOR THE NFL.
RATINGS ARE DOWN.
PROTESTS ARE WIDESPREAD.
THE PRESIDENT IS HOSTILE.
YESTERDAY THE PRESIDENT
TWEETED A PICTURE OF A WOMAN
MOURNING OF A FALLEN SOLDIER.
SHOW THIS PICTURE TO THE
PLAYERS THAT STILL KNEEL.
NOW THERE IS A LAWSUIT TO
WORRY ABOUT, TOO.O
BARSTOOL SPORTS, NO FRIEND OF
THE LEAGUE.
THEY ARE BANNED FROM THE SUPER
BOWL MEDIA DAY AND SOME OF THE
REPORTERS WERE ONCE ARRESTED
IN THE WAKE OF THE DEFLATE
GATE CONTROVERSY.
NOW BARSTOOL SAYS THE NFL
STOLE THE SLOGAN SATURDAYS ARE
FOR THE BOYS AND USED IT TO
HOCK TEAM SHIRTS.
THE PRESIDENT OF BARSTALL --
BARSTOOL TONIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR COMING ON.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
Tucker: WHAT IS THE
LAWSUIT ABOUT?
THE NFL PUT OUT A LINE OF
T-SHIRTS THAT DIRECTLY IN FRENCH
OURR TRADEMARK.
THE NFL HAS NO PROBLEM SUING
EVERYBODY IF THEY THINK THEY
SNEEZED AT WHAT THEY ARE
DOING.
SO WE DECIDED TO FIGHT BACK ON
THIS ONE.
D
Tucker: DID THEY GIVE YOU
A HEADS UP BEFORE STEALING THE
SLOGAN?
THEY DID NOT.
THAT WOULD RUIN THE STEAL.
WE SAW THEM AND WE WERE
SURPRISED AND WE SENT A CEASE
AND DESIST OUT.
Tucker: THE NFL IS ONE OF
THE BIGGEST COMMERCIAL
OPERATIONS IN THE WORLD.
YOU ARE A WEB SITE.
WHY WOULDN'T THEY JUST PAY FOR
IT?
APPARENTLY THEY THOUGHT
THEY COULD JUST TAKE IT.
OR THEY DIDN'T THINK WE'D
NOTICE POSSIBLY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS
POSSIBLE.
WE HATE THEM AND THEY HATE US.
THEY ARRESTED YOUR
REPORTERS.
WHY DID THEY DO THAT?
WE WERE PROTESTING TOM
BRADY, FOUR-GAME SUSPENSION HE
GOT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK
THERE WAS ANY DUE PROCESS.
HE WASN'T FOUND GUILTY.
ROGER GOODELL AT ONE POINT
SAID HE WOULD TALK TO THE
MEDIA AT ANY POINT SO WE WENT
TO TRY TO TALK TO HIM AND HE
WOULDN'T MEET WITH US.
WE HANDCUFFED OURSELVES TO
EACH OTHER IN THE PARKING LOT
AS YOU SEE THERE AND WE GOT
HAULED TO JAIL.
Tucker: WAS IT WORTH IT?
IT IS NOW.
JAIL WAS PRETTY BAD SO DURINGG
JAIL, NO.
BUT POST-JAIL YES.
Tucker: IT CHANGES THE
MAN.
YOU HAVE TO DO THE TIME.
CAN'T LET THE TIME DO YOU.
IT HARDENS YOU UP.
Tucker: I READ YOUR SITE
AND I WILL ADMIT IT.
NOT TO BE A FAN.
NOTHING TO BE
Tucker: IS IT TOUGH TO
ASHAMED OF.
RUN A SITE LIKE THAT?
IT'S TOTALLY HONEST AND
OFFENSIVE.N
IS IT HARD TO RUN A SITE LIKE
THAT NOW WHERE YOU ARE NOT
ALLOWED TO BE HONEST AND
EVERYBODY IS REQUIRED TO LIERE
ANYTHING ABOUT ALL THE TIME?E?
IT'S GETTING TOUGHER.
I WILL GIVE CREDIT TO THE
PEOPLE I HAVE BEEN RUNNING IT
FOR A WHILE.
I TOLD HALF OF IT.
THEY LIKE THE VOICE.
THEY LIKE AUTHENTICITY AND T
THAT IS WHAT WORKS SO WE STICK
WITH IT.
BUT IT'S MORE TRICKY BECAUSE W
NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY THERE
IS SOMEBODY WHO WILL BANG
THEIR FIST, SCREAM, WHATEVER.
IT MAKES IT MORE COMPLICATED.
Tucker: THEY PAY YOU ALL
THIS MONEY BECAUSE THEY SAY
THEY LIKE THE VOICE AND THEY
PROBABLY SECRETLY DO.
BUT WHEN PEOPLE COMPLAIN, I
MEAN, COMPANIES DON'T STAND UP
FOR EDITORIAL FREEDOM IN THIS
ENVIRONMENT DO THEY?
DO YOUR CORPORATE MASTERS
STAND FIRM AGAINST COMPLAINTS?
THEY REALLY DO.
FOR THE MOST PART WE CAN
MONETIZE THROUGH THE AUDIENCE
AND THE ADVERTISING IS GREAT.
THE ADVERTISING IS AT THE CORE
OF EVERYONE CRUMBLING FOR THE
MOST PART.
YOU WORRY ABOUT LOSING THAT.
OUR REVENUE STREAM IS MADE ON
THE T-SHIRT, EVENTS AND
SPEAKING TO CONSUMERS DIRECTLY
SO IT GIVES US MORE FREEDOM
THAN OTHER COMPANIES.
Tucker: HAVE YOU
NOTICED -- DOES IT SEEM LIKE A
HARD MOMENT TO MAKE ART?
THAT REQUIRES FREE THINKING.
IT DOES SEEM IN SHORT SUPPLY
RIGHT NOW.
IT IS DIFFICULT TIME.
WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO
ALREADY HAVE A FAN BASE.
TO START FROM SCRATCH,
I FEEL LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA
AMPLIFIES EVERYTHING BECAUSE
10 TO 20 PEOPLE CAN MAKE IT
FEEL LIKE THEY ARE SPEAKING
FOR A LARGER CROWD WHEN THEY
ARE NOT.
SPILLING THE FBI RENEWED AN
INVESTIGATION OF THE CLINTON
FOUNDATION, AND WHAT THAT MEANS
FOR
THE FOUNDATION AND THE
CLINTON EMPIRE?
Tucker: THE F
Tucker: THE F.B.I.
TONIGHT TAKING ANOTHER LOOK AT
THE CLINTON FOUNDATION.
SEARCHING FOR EVIDENCE THE
FOUNDATION MAY HAVE TAKEN
DONATIONS -- BRACE
YOURSELVES -- IN RETURN FOR
POLITICAL FAVORS.
TRACE GALLAGHER HAS MORE ON
THAT STORY.
HE JOINS US TONIGHT.
HEY, TRACE.
FOX NEWS LEARNED THE
U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THE
F.B.I. HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO
THE CLINTON FOUNDATION FOR
MONTHS.
THE FOCUS IS MAINLY ON THE PAY
TO PLAY POLITICS.
WE ARE TOLD A KEY WITNESS
INTERVIEWED IN DECEMBER
DEALING SPECIFICALLY WITH ANY
COMPARISONS BETWEEN DONATIONS
TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION AND
GOVERNMENT ACTIONS WHILE
HILLARY CLINTON WAS SECRETARY
OF STATE.
THAT IS THE FIRST
INVESTIGATION.RE
THERE IS ALSO HILLARY CLINTON
PRIVATE E-MAIL SERVER.
"THE HILL" PUBLISHED A REPORT
FEATURING FORMER F.B.I.
DIRECTOR JAMES COMEY'S ORIGINAL
DRAFT ON THE INVESTIGATION
WHICH USES THE TERM "GROSS
NEGLIGENCE" AND SAYS THERE WASIC
EVIDENCE THAT CLINTON
COMMITTED A FELONY.
ANTI-TRUMP F.B.I. AGENT
PETER STZROKRI REPORTEDLY SOFTENED
THE LANGUAGE IN THE DRAFT SO THE
CLINTON COULD AVOID CRIMINAL
CHARGES.
THE D.O.J. IS EXPLORING
WHETHER TO REOPEN THE PROBE.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS ALSO
ASKING THE F.B.I. AGENTS TO
EXPLAIN EVIDENCE GATHERED IN
THE NOW DORMANT URANIUM ONE
INVESTIGATION.
THE D.O.J. IS DECIDING IF A
SPECIAL COUNSEL MIGHT BE
NEEDED.
THAT IS THE 2010 TRANSACTION
WHERE THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
ALLOWED THE SALE OF
U.S. URANIUM MINING FACILITY
TO THE RUSSIA STATE RUN ENERGY
GIANT.
HILLARY-RUN STATE DEPARTMENT
WAS ONE AMONG THE NINE
AGENCIES THAT APPROVED THE
DEAL.
THERE IS A POTENTIAL PROBE INTM A A
ALLEGATION THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION TRIED TO SECURE
THE IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL BY
ENDING A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION
INTO THE IRANIAN BACKED TERROR
GROUP HEZBOLLAH.NV
BUT ENDING THE INVESTIGATION
REPORTEDLY LED TO HEZBOLLAH
TRAFFICKING HUNDREDS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF COCAINE
IN THE U.S. AND BUILDING UP
THEIR BASE OF TERROR.
HILLARY CLINTON WAS SECRETARYF
OF STATE AT THE TIME.
THE CLINTON CLAIMS THESE ARE
ALL EFFORTS BY TRUMP TO DIVERT
ATTENTION FROM ROBERT
MUELLER'S SPECIAL COUNSEL.
TUCKER?IO
Tucker: TRACE GALLAGHER.
THANK YOU.
I WAS IN MATT JOINING US.
REPUBLICAN REPRESENTING
FLORIDA.
THANK YOU FOR COMING ON.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR
ME --
I GOT YOU.
JUST HEARD YOU.
Tucker: EXCELLENT.
THANKS.
SO THE CLINTON PEOPLE ARE
SAYING LOOK.EA
HILLARY CLINTON HAS BEEN A
PRIVATE CITIZEN FOR A LONG
TIME.NT
SHE HAS BEEN OUT OF POLITICS
IN EFFECT FOR A YEAR.
WHY NOW?
WHY IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF
THESE DO YOU THINK FOR THE
REST OF THE COUNTRY?
THERE MAY HAVE BEEN ACTS
THAT OCCURRED AT THE STATE
DEPARTMENT AS A CONSEQUENCE OF
BRIBES PAID TO THE CLINTON
FOUNDATION CREATING AN ONGOING
SECURITY CONCERN FOR THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
TAKE FOR EXAMPLE THE HEZBOLLAH
STORY YOU JUST MENTIONED.
IT'S NOT JUST COCAINE BEING
TRAFFICKED.
YOU HAVE HEZBOLLAH WORKING IN
COMMON CAUSE WITH NARCO
TRAFFICKERS IN SOUTH AMERICA
TO MOVE OPIUM, HEROIN AND TO
MOVE PEOPLE IN THE UNITED
STATES.TR
THE INVESTIGATION THAT WAS GOING
ON TO DEGRADE THESE NETWORKS,
THE COLLUSION BETWEEN HEZBOLLAH
AND SOUTH AMERICAN NARCO
TRAFFICKERS WAS SMOTHERED BY
THE PEOPLE OF THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT.AF
THERE IS A SUSPICION THAT THE
STATE DEPARTMENT LED BY
HILLARY CLINTON HAD A ROLE IN
LIMITING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S
ACCESS TO INFORMATION ABOUT
HEZBOLLAH BEING FUNDED AND THE
OPERATIONS IN THIS COUNTRYHE
BECAUSE THEY WANTED THE
IRANIAN NUCLEAR DEAL SO BAD
THEY DIDN'T WANT US FOCUSING
ON THE FACT THAT IRAN HAS
FUNDED OVER 100 MOSQUES IN
SOUTH AMERICA TO RECRUIT
PEOPLE AND THEN TO SEND THEM
TO THE UNITED STATES TO DO
HARM.
Tucker: SO THAT IS ONE OF
THE INVESTIGATION INTO THAT.
IT DOES SEEM IF TRUE FIRST OF
ALL, HARD TO DEFEND.
BUT SECOND IT HAS OBVIOUS
NATIONAL SECURITY IMPLICATIONS
FOR THE COUNTRY.
TELL US ABOUT THE
INVESTIGATION INTO -- WE KNOW
MUCH ABOUT IT -- IN THE
CLINTON FOUNDATION.
WELL, THE ACCUSATION IS
THAT THE CLINTON FOUNDATION
WAS MERELY A MONEY LAUNDERING
OPERATION WHERE PEOPLE PAID TO
HAVE ACCESS TO THE STATE
DEPARTMENT.
THERE WERE NOTATIONS ON
PARTICULAR DOCUMENTS AND BIDS
WHERE PEOPLE WOULD WRITE
F.O.B.
"FRIEND OF BILL."
WHICH MEANT THOSE WERE DONORS
TO THE CLINTON FOUNDATION AND
AS A CONSEQUENCE THEY WERE
GIVEN SPECIAL TREATMENT.
THAT IS TYPE OF THING WE HAVE
TO KNOW ABOUT NOW.
NOT TO EXERCISE REVENGE ON
DEFEATED PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATE BUT TO MAKE SURE WE
DON'T HAVE PEOPLE ACTING AS
VENDORS ON BEHALF OF THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NOT
AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THE MERIT
OR WHAT THEY CAN DO BUT THEY
ARE FRIENDS OR DONORS TO THE
CLINTON FOUNDATION.
Tucker: YEAH.
THAT WHOLE OPERATION WAS FALSE
FROM DAY ONE OBVIOUSLY.
WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG TO
GET THE INVESTIGATIONS
UNDERWAY?
YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN
CALLING FOR THIS FOR OVER FIVE
MONTHS.
20 MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE SENT A
LETTER TO JEFF SESSIONS SAYING
WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO THESE
THINGS BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING
SECURITY CONCERNS.
FINALLY NOW WE HAVE HILLARY
CLINTON DEALING WITH
INVESTIGATIONS
CASCADING DOWN
ON HERE LIKE A BOMB CYCLONE.
THE DAY IS COMING SOON WE'LL
SEND AN "I'M WITH HER T-SHIRT"
TO HILLARY CLINTON'S CELL
ER
MATE.
Tucker: SO YOU THINK SHE
IS CRIMINALLY EXPOSED
POTENTIALLY?
ABSOLUTELY.
IF PEOPLE WERE TAKING BRIBES
AND AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THE
BRIBE ENGAGING IN ACTIONS THEY
WOULDN'T OTHERWISE ENGAGE IN,PL
THAT IS A CRIME.
YOU CAN'T DO IT IN THE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA.
WE HAVE TO GO NOW AND REMEDY
CONSEQUENCES.
TAKE FOR EXAMPLE THE SUBJECT
OF THE SHOW. H
OPIOID PROBLEM.
IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE TRAFFICKING
AND WOULD HAVE BEEN FOUND OUT
OTHERWISE WE HAVE TO REMEDIATE
THE HARM THAT THE CLINTON
CAUSED THIS COUNTRY.WO
Tucker: CONGRESSMAN,
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US
TONIGHT.
APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU, TUCKER.
Tucker: MATH TESTS,
ENGLISH TESTS, PRIVILEGE TEST?
THAT'S RIGHT.
GETTING QUIZZED ON PRIVILEGE
AND GETTING SHAMED IF THEY
HAVE TOO MUCH ACCORDING TO
THEIR TEACHERS.
Tucker: WE HAVE NEW
DEVELOPMENTS TONIGHT IN THE
INVESTIGATION IN THE MANDALAY
BAY SHOOTING.
IN A STATEMENT, THEY SAID
STAFF INTERACTED WITH THE
SHOOTER PADDOCK MORE THAN TEN
TIMES IN THE DAYS LEADING UP
TO THE MASSACRE.
THE ONE IN WHICH HE KILLED 58
PEOPLE.
IN RESPONSE TO THE MEDIA
QUESTIONS M.G.M. SAID THIS --
THERE WERE NUMEROUS
INTERACTIONS WITH PADDOCK
EVERY DAY AT RESORT INCLUDING
A ROOM SERVICE DELIVERY AND A
CALL WITH HOUSEKEEPING ON
OCTOBER 1st.
ALL OF WHICH WERE NORMAL IN
NATURE."
WE'LL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE
STORY, OF COURSE.
WELL, SCHOOLS AREN'T JUST
FOR TEACHING MATH, READING OR
SCIENCE.
TO BE HONEST THEY HAVEN'T BEEN
FOR A LONG TIME.
BUT NOW THEY ARE TEACHING KIDS
TO FEEL ASHAMED OF THEIR
FAMILIES.RE
150 EIGHTHERS GRADERS IN
WEST BEND, WISCONSIN, WERE GIVEN
A PRIVILEGED TEST
THAT IDENTIFIED THEM BEING
PRIVILEGED FOR BEING WHITE,
RICH OR HAVING AN INTACT
FAMILY.
THIS IS COMMON FOR SCHOOLS
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SCHOOL OFFICIALS SAID
AT BEDROOM MIDDLE SCHOOL,
PRIVILEGE EDUCATION WAS
IMPORTANT TO ENABLE THE
STUDENTS TO SUCCEED IN THEIR
CAREERS.
SOMEHOW.
WE ARE JOINED BY A
PSYCHOTHERAPIST.
THANK YOU FOR COMING ON.
I HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE AND
SEEN IT WITH MY OWN KIDS.
IT SEEMS CRUEL.
CHILDREN ARE AS YOU KNOW VERY
SENSITIVE ABOUT BEING CALLED
OUT AS DIFFERENT.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS
DOES.
THIS SINGLES OUT SOME KIDS AND
SUGGESTS THAT THEY ARE BAD FOR
THINGS THEY CAN'T CONTROL.
WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS TO
CHILDREN?
WELL, I WOULD HAVE TO
RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE WITH YOU
HERE.
AS A JOURNALIST, LET'S PUT
THIS IN CONTEXT.
THEY GAVE THIS TEST IN AN
ENGLISH CLASS AFTER THE
STUDENTS READ "TO KILL A
MOCKING BIRD."
THEY WERE DISCUSSING JIM CROW
LAWS.
SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO TEACH
U.S. HISTORY AND WORLD HISTORY
WITHOUT TALK ABOUT PRIVILEGE IN
POSITIONS OF PRIVILEGE, WHEN
THEY ARE O ABUSE, CAN LEAD TO
HORRIBLE CRIMES BEING COMMITTED
TO HUMANITY.
Tucker: I'M CONFUSED.
SO THESE ARE MIDDLE SCHOOLERS
IN WISCONSIN IN 2018.
"TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD" IS
ABOUT MISSISSIPPI IN THE
1940s.
WHAT DO THEIR FAMILIES HAVE TO
DO WITH THAT?PI
LITERALLY NOTHING.
IT WASN'T THEIR FAMILIES.
R THEIR TUGBOAT IF THEY COULD
RECOGNIZE THE PRIVILEGE BY BEING
WHO THEY W ARE.
FOR EXAMPLE PERHAPS WHITE, OR
PERHAPS MALE.
IT'S TEACHING CHILDREN THEY
NEED TO HAVE COMPASSION FOR
PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE OTHER
SIDE OF WHATEVER THEY ARE AND
TO ALSO NOT ABUSE THAT
POSITION OF PRIVILEGE MOVING
FORWARD IN THEIR LIVES.
Tucker: SO, THEY ARE
SCOLDING THE KIDS FOR THINGS
THEY CAN'T CONTROL LIKE THEIR
RACE OR THE CONDITION OF THEIR
FAMILY.
I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY WAS
ACTUALLY SCOLDED.
IN FACT --
Tucker: THE IMPLICATION
IS LOOK, YOU HAVE A SPECIAL
RESPONSIBILITY TO BE SENSITIVE
BECAUSE OF SOMETHING YOU CAN'T
CONTROL.
BY THE WAY --
ABSOLUTELY, TUCKER, IF WE
DIDN'T TEACH CHILDREN THIS AT
THIS POINT, RIGHT?
WE ARE GOING TO RAISE LITTLE
BOYS WHO END UP BECOMING
PRODUCERS AND EXECUTIVES AT
LARGE MOVIE STUDIOS WHO THEN
END UP COMMITTING CRIMES
AGAINST WOMEN LIKE RAPE.
WE NEED TO TEACH CHILDREN HOW
TO BE REALLY COMPASSIONATE
TOWARD OTHER PEOPLE AND BE
SENSITIVE TO NOT ABUSE THAT.
POSITION OF POWERS.
Tucker: HOW IS THIS
COMPASSIONATE TO SINGLE OUT
LITTLE KIDS --
THEY'RE NOT LITTLE KIDS.
Tucker: THEY ARE MIDDLE
SCHOOLERS. K
THEY ARE MIDDLE SCHOOLERS
SO BY THE TIME THEY ARE IN THE
EIGHTH GRADE ---
Tucker: HOLD ON.
HOW IS IT COMPASSIONATE TO
MAKE THEM FEEL BAD FOR THE
RACE OR THE FAMILY SITUATION?
THIS DOES MAKE THEM FEEL BAD.
THIS HAS HAPPENED TO MY KIDS.
TALKING ABOUT SHAME AND
VULNERABILITY IS A CRUCIAL
PART OF A CLASSROOM.
Tucker: IT IS?
YES, BECAUSE WHAT THE
PARENTS ARE SAYING --
Tucker: ARE THE TEACHERS
QUALIFIED TO DO THIS?
YOU SAT THROUGH
U.S. HISTORY CLASSES AND WORLD
HISTORY CLASSES.
Tucker: I THINK IT'S ONE
THING -- HOLD ON.
I'M NOT SURE THAT BEING A
MIDDLE SCHOOL HISTORY TEACHER
GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO TALK TO
MY KIDS ABOUT THEIR FAMILY AND
MAKE JUDGMENTS ABOUT THEIRAL
FAMILY, "A."
"B," ARE THEY REALLY QUALIFIED
TO NAVIGATE SOMETHING THIS
DELICATE WITH BACHELOR'S
DEGREE IN HISTORY, GIVE YOU
THE ABILITY TO DO THIS TO
TACKLE THE NUANCES HERE
EFFECTIVELY?
I'M NOT SURE.
I'M NOT CONVINCED.
AS A PSYCHOTHERAPIST, I
READ THE ACTUAL SURVEY.
SOME OF THE QUESTIONS I AGREE
WERE A BIT BIZARRE AND I
DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THEM.
BUT ASKING CHILDREN TO
RECOGNIZE WHERE THEY HOLD
POSITIONS OF POWER BECAUSE OF
THEIR RACE OR THEIR GENDER IS
REALLY IMPORTANT.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR
TEACHERS --
Tucker: I WOULD CORRECT
YOU BY SAYING IT'S REALLY
STUPID, ACTUALLY.
THE IDEA THAT ALL PEOPLE OF
ONE RACE ARE EMPOWERED AND
PEOPLE OF ANOTHER RACE ARE
DISEMPOWERED IS FACTUALLYOW
WRONG.
YOU MAKE IT BINARY.
THIS IS A NUANCED
CONVERSATION.
Tucker: I'M NOT MAKING IT
BINARY.
THOSE ADMINISTERING THE TEST
ARE.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE
CIVIL WAR OR WORLD WAR II, HOW
DO YOU TALK ABOUT THE WORLD
HISTORY EVENTS WHERE MANY, W
MANY PEOPLE WERE KILLED AND
BLOOD WAS SPILLED BECAUSE OF
RACE AND BECAUSE OF POLITICS?
YOU CAN'T NOT BRING THIS STUFF
UP WITH KIDS IN A CLASSROOM.
Tucker: I'M NOT
SUGGESTING WE DON'T BRING IT
UP.
THAT IS WHAT THE TEACHERS
ARE DOING.
WHAT THE TEACHERS ARE
HOPING -- I
Tucker: SLOW DOWN.
YOU SHOULDN'T SAY TO KIDS YOU
ARE IMPLICATED.
THE CIVIL WAR TOOK PLACE 150
YEARS AGO.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
KIDS AT BADGER MIDDLE SCHOOL
IN WISCONSIN.
THAT IS NOT WHAT THE SURVEY
WAS SAYING.
IT'S SAYING DO YOU RECOGNIZE
WHERE YOU HOLD A POSITION OF
POWER?
THE THING THAT IS INTERESTING
IS WHAT GETS TRIGGERED --
Tucker: THIS IS
SUBJECTIVE.
THIS IS TOTALLY SUBJECTIVE.
I COULD SAY -- LET'S BE
TOTALLY REAL HERE.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS TRUE THAT THE
WHITE GUY IS THE MOST POWERFUL
PERSON IN EVERY SITUATION.
THAT IS A GROSS GENERALIZATION
ACTUALLY.
I AGREE WITH YOU.
BUT LET'S JUST SAY FOR EXAMPLE
MEN STILL MAKE MORE MONEY THAN
WOMEN ACROSS MANY, MANY
INDUSTRIES IN THIS COUNTRY.
THAT IS A POSITION OF POWERER
BECAUSE YOU ARE A MALE IN THIS
SOCIETY.
IT'S TRUE IF WE LOOK AT --
Tucker: THAT IS NOT
ACTUALLY TRUE, THOUGH.
I'M NOT FAULTING YOU.
I KNOW YOU ARE A SHRINK..
NOT ECONOMIST.
BUT YOU MAY NOT BE KEEPING
CURRENT ON THE NUMBERS ON
THIS.
THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE STORY.
WHY IS NOT OKAY TO HAVE THE
TEACHERS TEACH HISTORY,
ENGLISH AND MATH?
WE ARE TURNING OUT GENERATION
OF ILLITERATES, WHY NOT STICK
TO THOSE THINGS?
IF YOU TEACH HISTORY, YOU
ALSO HAVE TO TEACH WHY THESE
THINGS OCCUR IN U.S. HISTORY.
PART OF THAT IS AN EMOTIONAL
CONVERSATION.
YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE CIVIL
JIM CROW LAWS WITHOUT BECOMING A
EMOTIONAL.
Tucker: APPARENTLY NOT.
I CAN.
NELL, THANK YOU.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
Expedia.
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