Antonio Apicella, professor and principal of the Napoli University, college of design.
Antonio--那不勒斯大学设计学院教授和院长 您好
Thank you very much for welcoming us here today, and take your place, it’s a pleasure to be here.
非常感谢您的邀请 很高兴来到贵校
I just want to ask you that what kind of standard do you apply here?
这里我想了解贵方在教学工作中应用的标准是什么
What constitutes good design?
您认为是什么促成了优秀设计
Yeah, what we teach here that in my opinion is good design,
我们传授的就是优秀设计
it is something that goes out from the concept of art.
优秀设计某种程度上源于艺术概念
Good design contain the sense of heart, contain the sense of culture of the place.
包含心理意识以及当地文化意识
So, as we stay in this beautiful old abbey of the 15th century,
正如这座建于15世纪的美丽古老的修道院
and we can see, in all the shape here, the history of the place,
我们可以透过所有外观形状探察到修道院的发展历程
and I think good design should contain not only the shape but also the technology,
我认为优秀设计既应涉及外观形状 也应涉及技术
and the knowledge of ancient time,
古代历史知识
as well the knowledge and the understanding of the new material, the new technology.
以及对新材料和新技术的认知
So, innovation in a product, it means good design.
因此 产品创新也意味着优秀设计
So now I think you have about 1,200 students here, student of design.
据我所知 贵方现有1200名设计专业学生
What are you looking for? What kind of designers are you looking for?
那么您在寻找什么类型的设计师
What kind of personality, character?
在寻找什么样的个性和品质
The personality and character should be, students should have curiosity.
我们一直强调学生应该有好奇心
They should be very curious about understanding things, not just copying things.
应该抱有去理解事物的好奇心 而不只是重复复制
So, some of the design schools sometimes they go to stereotypes, they work in closed box.
有些设计学校固守成规 刻板不变
Here we have to go out of the box.
而我们则强调新意
We have to think new products, new concept related strongly to what is now unavailable as technology and material.
我们致力于构思与技术和材料相关的新产品和新概念
So now if you talk about the future of design, that is design of the future,
您谈到设计的未来 即未来设计
Everybody believes that. How does it look like?
那么它到底是怎样的？
I think that designer revolution for design.
我认为设计师可以引起设计变革
We are much enough to go a step further.
时至今日 我们可以更进一步
A step further means that design should as I said before, should come out from just the concept of elite.
正如我之前所言 设计应源于精英概念
Something that is just strongly related only to heart.
而这种概念与心理意识紧密相关
Designers are needed because they can possess the curiosity, the knowledge to do good products for industry,
因为设计师具有设计出优秀工业产品的好奇心和专业知识 所以才会被需要
so we need a strong correlation between industries that develop the products and the design school.
而我们则需要将产品研发行业与设计学院紧密关联
And this is one of the aim I have since I would like to push in this direction also for master,
当然 这也是我针对硕士研究生进行教学的方向目标之一
one year master in which our students just coming out from here will start to work nearby to the industry
我们培养出的一年制研究生毕业后将就近进入工业领域
and bringing their knowledge, their curiosity to develop new products.
并利用其所学和好奇心研发新产品
You have been invited by the Chinese Government and also participated in seminars in Beijing.
您曾接受中国政府的邀请并在北京参加过很多研讨会
How much you know about Chinese design style or culture?
那么您对中国设计风格或文化了解多少
how that differentiates itself with the Italian one?
与意大利设计风格或文化有何不同
Up to now, there is a big difference that is related to the fact
迄今为止 两国确实存在很大不同
that in Italy, we have some schools of design that still are dominating, more related to Melanie,
意大利仍有相当多设计学院沿袭了Melanie风格
to people of the past.
或过去相关人士的风格
I think that in Italy we do not have new deal of design.
意大利缺少新设计模式
In China, checking in universities and design schools I saw a lot of young students maybe good designers in the future.
而在中国 通过访问众多大学和设计学院 我认为很多年轻学子未来有望成为优秀设计师
China possesses, Chinese people have enough culture from the past
中国人可以继承很多传统文化
that can be put in their product they are going to do.
用于将来相关产品设计中
So I think this is a big deal for designers in Italy, in Europe as well as in China.
这对意大利 欧洲甚至中国的设计师都至关重要
Now designers if they study here what are they looking for in the future?
对于众多在贵校求学的学子 他们的未来期望是什么
What opportunities and chances do they have?
他们又有哪些机遇
Up to now, our students we have two branches.
目前 我们将学生分为两大系别
One is in industrial design, the other one is design for fashion.
一系专攻工业设计 另一系专攻时装设计
So, they are two different branches,
这是两支完全不同的系别
so some of them will work in the industry of fashion, but not as a stylist,
一些学生未来将进入时尚界 但并不作为造型师工作
they will work for all the accessories of design.
他们将从事所有与设计相关的工种
Product they need to get innovation inside because a stylist would like to have his innovation.
他们需要从产品内部进行创新 因为造型师希望能感受到其创新
And for our industrial design school, what they are bringing from our school is the knowledge of technology
而在我校学习工业设计的学生则会源源不断学习技术知识
that maybe is not presenting in another industrial design school.
而这在其它工业设计学校有可能不会实现
I think that is very important to do this like that
贵校这种模式非常值得借鉴
And this opens the way to work nearby the industry and developing new products.
确实 这种模式为学生开启了就近选择行业并研发新产品的路径
So they actually in the future may wish to go abroad? To acquire more knowledge?
他们未来可能会出国学习更多知识吗
Sure, Sure, Yeah.
当然
As I said before, the master we are preparing here, a master that done outside, in China or outside Italy.
像我之前所言 我们的硕士研究生会接受海外学习 比如在中国或意大利之外的其他国家
Because otherwise we remain too much closed to our culture.
否则 我们太局限于本国文化
While we have to open to other culture, other knowledge.
我们必须学习他国知识 借鉴他国文化
Do you have any thoughts or any kind of blessing to Chinese design students?
您对中国设计专业的学生作何感想或有何祝愿
Any words for the Chinese design students. Like encouragement or something.
是否对他们有些寄语 比如鼓励等
Growing baby.
加油 孩子们
They are very curios ones.
中国设计专业的学生极具好奇心和求知欲
I mean I worked with them, and they are very tough, very systematics.
与他们共事时 我感觉到他们非常努力并很有计划
When you say them they have to do something they will do.
当要求他们做什么的时候 他们就会努力完成
They will work night time, 24 hours, and they will accomplish.
即便是加班或通宵 他们也会完成
What I seen they are really anxious, eager to do things.
他们非常有激情和热情去做事
So this is very good and very important because curiosity is the main driving force for design.
这非常重要 因为好奇心和求知欲是设计的主驱动力
But you think also the Chinese students and the Italian design students, can they actually work together?
您认为中国学生和意大利学生可以一起学习或共事吗
Sure! Because our cultures although they are very far from each other, they are very similar.
当然可以 尽管两国文化大不相同 但也确有相通之处
That means that, especially in the south of Italy.
尤其是意大利南部
And south of Italy is full of creative people.
这一地区有很多创意人士
I think that would be really good future for Italian and Chinese students
我认为将来中意两国学生
to work together in different fields I mean, not only in design.
在不同领域会有很好的合作 而不仅仅是设计领域
Thank you very much professor Apicella.
非常感谢 Apicella教授
Thank you, bye.
谢谢
Professor Apicella, I was wondering about
Apicella教授 我了解到
some books or certain things which designer needs to acquire the knowledge of in his study,
设计师通常需要一些书籍或相关资料以便获取相关知识并运用到其研究中
become an accomplished designer.
这样才会更成熟 是吗
The history of design is very important for our students.
了解设计史对学生非常重要
I mean that understanding how design, innovation, new material
了解设计史就是了解
for the age of the beginning of our century or later on.
本世纪之初或后来的设计 创新和新材料
It is important because our students have to acquire the methods
这很重要 因为学生必须掌握相关方法
to understand how innovation can improve the quality of the products.
以便了解创新如何提高产品质量
So, in this way we can have new capability of our students
因此 通过这种方式 我们可以发掘学生
in understanding and going out what is only the creativity and the curiosity.
在理解和创新方面的新能力 即创造力和好奇心
So, the knowledge of the past will be the innovation of the future.
对历史知识的掌握将有助于未来创新
If you can name concrete example which you think is very important, you know about.
您可以举个您认为很重要的例子吗
I'm usually use the example of the 'Tonnet Chair'
我一般会以“Tonnet Chair”为例
Tonnet Chair start from innovation in technology that was the use of the steam to bend the wood.
“Tonnet Chair”成型自技术创新 即利用蒸汽折弯木材
So, using the bending of the wood according to the fiber direction, and the maximum strength of the material,
利用木材沿纤维方向的弯曲度以及材料的最大强度
has been able to develop new concept of the chair.
能构思出椅子的新概念
The chair that was can be mounted with fuse that can be send abroad
这种椅子装有保险丝并可以发往国外
because you can squeeze 26 chairs in one cubic meter.
因为一立方米可以装下26把这种椅子
So it means you can send abroad.
这样就方便发往国外
And so you have a large diffusion of the chair. Meanwhile it was very strong.
这种椅子有很大利用空间 也很坚实
It lasts for 160 years.
它已存续了160年
I have it in my kitchen 'Tonnet Chair' from that age that works effectively!
我家厨房里就有那个年代延续下来的“Tonnet Chair” 而且仍很实用
And this is an example of good design
这就是一个有关优秀设计的例子
because they have the knowledge of the material, and they use the technology for that time.
设计师掌握了椅子制作材料的知识并利用了当时的先进技术
Now the students have to learn the methods,
学生须学习这种方法
and then each innovation we have now for new material, liquid metals or smart materials,
以及针对新材料 液态金属或机敏材料所做的每一次创新
they should understand how to apply, and how to develop.
他们应了解如何应用和开发
And this knowledge can come from the study of the history of design,
可以通过研究设计史获取这种知识
but not only from the technological point of view.
而不仅仅是从技术角度了解
Thank you very much for taking the time.
非常感谢！