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>> woodruff: Good evening, I'm Judy woodruff.
Judy woodruff. On the newshour tonight, hope
on the newshour tonight, hope and heartache-- rescue crews
comb the wreckage as officials
look for answers in the collapse
of the surfside Florida condo.
Of the surfside Florida condo. Then,
of the surfside Florida condo. Then, one on one-- we discuss
then, one on one-- we discuss the ongoing pandemic recovery
and threats from new covid
variants with doctor Anthony
fauci.
Fauci.
Fauci. And,
fauci. And, an unfair burden-- black
and, an unfair burden-- black women lawmakers nationwide live
with a perpetual feeling of
danger after being elected to
office.
Office.
Office. >>
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daily basis.
Daily basis. To
daily basis. To live in constant fear,
to live in constant fear, feeling like you're in a state
of constant fight or flight and
not knowing who to trust.
Not knowing who to trust. >>
not knowing who to trust. >> Woodruff:
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>> woodruff:
>> Woodruff: Crews
>> woodruff: Crews in surfside, Florida have spent another long
day, delicately digging into a
collapsed condo tower, hoping to
find survivors.
Find survivors. So
find survivors. So far, 11 people are confirmed
so far, 11 people are confirmed dead, with 150 still missing.
Dead, with 150 still missing. Officials
dead, with 150 still missing. Officials pledged today to keep
officials pledged today to keep at it, in the face of
thunderstorms and dangerous
debris that's falling off the
building.
Building.
Building. >>
building. >> The west
building. >> The West Side of the pile had
>> the West Side of the pile had to be cordoned off a little bit
because it was becoming
excessively dangerous to work
there.
There.
There. What
there. What is happening, as I
what is happening, as I understand it, the work still
continues from the sides and
underneath.
Underneath. Nobody's
underneath. Nobody's giving up hope here.
Nobody's
nobody's giving up hope here. Nobody's stopping.
Nobody's stopping. The
nobody's stopping. The work goes on, full force.
We
the work goes on, full force. We are dedicated to getting
we are dedicated to getting everyone out of that pile of
rubble.
Rubble.
Rubble. >>
rubble. >> Woodruff:
Rubble. >> Woodruff: Meanwhile,
rubble. >> Woodruff: Meanwhile, "the
>> woodruff: Meanwhile, "the wall street journal" and others
reported the head of the condo
board warned in April that
damage to concrete supports had
gotten significantly worse.
Gotten significantly worse. And,
gotten significantly worse. And, the white house announced
and, the white house announced that president biden will visit
the site on Thursday.
The site on Thursday. A
the site on Thursday. A scorching heat wave along the
a scorching heat wave along the pacific northwest coast has
moved east after breaking
records in Seattle and Portland.
Records in Seattle and Portland. It's
records in Seattle and Portland. It's now forcing rolling power
it's now forcing rolling power blackouts in spokane and other
parts of eastern Washington
state and Oregon.
State and Oregon. Readings
state and Oregon. Readings across those areas
readings across those areas could hit 115 degrees before
today is over.
Today is over. On
today is over. On the east coast, tropical
on the east coast, tropical storm "Danny" weakened
today as it moved inland across
Georgia, and kept dumping heavy
rain.
Rain.
Rain. The
rain. The storm triggered flooding
the storm triggered flooding after coming ashore last night
in south Carolina.
In south Carolina. Flood
in south Carolina. Flood advisories were up all the
flood advisories were up all the way into eastern Alabama.
Way into eastern Alabama. President
way into eastern Alabama. President biden appealed for
president biden appealed for support today for a bipartisan
infrastructure plan costing
nearly $1 billion.
Nearly $1 billion. The
nearly $1 billion. The bill also has opponents on
the bill also has opponents on both sides of the aisle.
The bill also has opponents on both sides of the aisle.
Both sides of the aisle. The
both sides of the aisle. The president argued that is a
the president argued that is a selling point, as he toured a
public transit center in la
crosse, Wisconsin.
Crosse, Wisconsin. >>
crosse, Wisconsin. >> That's what it means to
>> that's what it means to compromise and reach consensus
and that's in the heart of every
democracy.
Democracy. We
democracy. We can't give up on what we keep
we can't give up on what we keep finding ways to come together.
Finding ways to come together. Because
finding ways to come together. Because every time we negotiate
because every time we negotiate in good faith, we come together
and get something big done, we
break a little more of the ice
that too often keeps us frozen
in place and prevents us from
solving the real problems.
Solving the real problems. >>
solving the real problems. >> Woodruff:
Solving the real problems. >> Woodruff: Mr. Biden
solving the real problems. >> Woodruff: Mr. Biden and
>> woodruff: Mr. Biden and democrats in congress are also
pressing for a much larger plan,
costing $6 trillion.
Costing $6 trillion. Fox
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fox news will pay a $1 million fine to settle a sexual
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case. The agreement is with new
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the agreement is with New York City's human rights commission.
The agreement is with New York City's human rights commission.
It
city's human rights commission. It stems from investigations
it stems from investigations that began when Roger ailes, the
company's founder and chair, was
accused of sexual misconduct.
Accused of sexual misconduct. He
accused of sexual misconduct. He died in 2017.
In
he died in 2017. In economic news, united
in economic news, united airlines announced, -- the most
by any U.S.
Airlines announced, -- the most by any U.S. carrier
airlines announced, -- the most by any U.S. carrier in a decade.
By any U.S. carrier in a decade. The
by any U.S. carrier in a decade. The deal will include 200
the deal will include 200 aircraft from boeing and 70 from
airbus.
Airbus.
Airbus. It
airbus. It could be worth as much as
it could be worth as much as $30 billion.
$30 billion. U.S. home prices in April surged
at the fastest pace in more than
15 years.
15 years.
15 years. A 20-city index shows they were
a 20-city index shows they were up nearly 15% from a year
earlier.
Earlier.
Earlier. The
earlier. The spike comes as homebuyers
the spike comes as homebuyers have been bidding up prices for
a limited supply of properties.
A limited supply of properties. And,
a limited supply of properties. And, a quiet day on wall street.
The
and, a quiet day on wall street. The dow Jones industrial average
the dow Jones industrial average gained nine points to close at
34,292.
34,292.
34,292. The nasdaq Rose 27 points.
The
the nasdaq Rose 27 points. The s&p 500 added one point.
Still
the s&p 500 added one point. Still to come on the newshour:
The
still to come on the newshour: The armed conflict in Ethiopia
the armed conflict in Ethiopia shows no signs of abating as
control of tigray remains in
doubt.
Doubt.
Doubt. The
doubt. The pandemic and our moment of
the pandemic and our moment of racial reckoning prompt many
college students to change
course.
Course.
Course. Black
course. Black women lawmakers live with
black women lawmakers live with a perpetual feeling of danger
after being elected to office.
After being elected to office. Plus,
after being elected to office. Plus, how summer movies hope to
plus, how summer movies hope to draw audiences back to the big
>>
>> woodruff:
>> Woodruff: The
>> woodruff: The U.S.
>> Woodruff: The U.S. is
>> woodruff: The U.S. is in a far better place this summer
than many other countries
witnessing new covid cases.
Witnessing new covid cases. But
witnessing new covid cases. But the delta variant of covid,
but the delta variant of covid, now expected to become the
dominant strain in the U.S., is
posing serious dangers in areas
with low vaccination rates.
With low vaccination rates. Its
with low vaccination rates. Its spread in many countries
its spread in many countries worldwide is triggering
shutdowns and fears of more
deaths.
Deaths.
Deaths. William
deaths. William brangham begins our
coverage with this report.
Coverage with this report. >>
coverage with this report. >> Brangham:
Coverage with this report. >> Brangham: Across
coverage with this report. >> Brangham: Across the world, a
>> brangham: Across the world, a wave of new lockdowns are being
implemented as nations scramble
to get ahead of the coronavirus
strain known as the delta
variant.
Variant.
Variant. >>
variant. >> The risk is real and we need
>> the risk is real and we need to act quickly.
>> The risk is real and we need to act quickly.
To act quickly. >>
to act quickly. >> Brangham:
To act quickly. >> Brangham: The
to act quickly. >> Brangham: The fear spans
>> brangham: The fear spans entire continents.
Entire continents. Cities
entire continents. Cities across Australia, a
cities across Australia, a country praised for its initial
handling of the pandemic, but
now with limited vaccination
are now imposing stay-at-home
orders.
Orders.
Orders. >>
orders. >> As of midnight, Perth and
>> as of midnight, Perth and peel will be entering a four day
lockdown.
Lockdown.
Lockdown. >>
lockdown. >> Brangham:
Lockdown. >> Brangham: In
lockdown. >> Brangham: In several Asian
>> brangham: In several Asian nations, Indonesia and Malaysia,
the variant has threatened to
overrun hospitals.
Overrun hospitals. Travelers
overrun hospitals. Travelers in Hong Kong hustled
travelers in Hong Kong hustled to get on the last flights to
the united
to get on the last flights to the United Kingdom before a
travel ban went into place.
Travel ban went into place. >>
travel ban went into place. >> It's killing people by the
>> it's killing people by the thousands.
Thousands. >>
thousands. >> Brangham:
Thousands. >> Brangham: And
thousands. >> Brangham: And across Africa,
>> brangham: And across Africa, the virus is hitting hard.
The virus is hitting hard. It's
the virus is hitting hard. It's forced south
the virus is hitting hard. It's forced South Africa to
it's forced South Africa to reinstate bans on alcohol sales,
gatherings and indoor dining for
the next two weeks.
The next two weeks. President
the next two weeks. President cyril ramaphosa issued
president cyril ramaphosa issued a stark warning:
A stark warning: >>
a stark warning: >> We are in the grip of a
>> we are in the grip of a devastating wave that by all
indications seems like it will
be worse than those that have
preceded it.
Preceded it. >>
preceded it. >> Brangham:
Preceded it. >> Brangham: This
preceded it. >> Brangham: This variant -
>> brangham: This variant - originally identified in India,
is highly contagious, much more
so than the original
coronavirus, and it's now on
track to become the dominant
global strain.
Global strain. The
global strain. The centers for disease control
the centers for disease control and prevention says it's already
been identified in at least 77
countries.
Countries. >>
countries. >> Why should we act like there
>> why should we act like there is no solution when there is a
solution?
Solution?
Solution? >>
solution? >> Brangham:
Solution? >> Brangham: The
solution? >> Brangham: The solution is
>> brangham: The solution is vaccines.
Vaccines.
Vaccines. Public
vaccines. Public health officials say most
public health officials say most protect against this delta
variant, but only ten percent of
the world's population has been
vaccinated, and in some nations,
the rates are far lower.
The rates are far lower. Many
the rates are far lower. Many countries are desperate for
many countries are desperate for more supply.
More supply. >>
more supply. >> The problem now is supply
>> the problem now is supply problem.
Problem.
Problem. Just
problem. Just give us the vaccines.
>>
just give us the vaccines. >> Brangham:
Just give us the vaccines. >> Brangham: And
just give us the vaccines. >> Brangham: And given delta's
>> brangham: And given delta's spread, this week, the world
health organization recommended
masks even for those who are
fully vaccinated.
Fully vaccinated. >>
fully vaccinated. >> Until the vast majority of
>> until the vast majority of our population is vaccinated, we
will have to live differently
given this strain of the virus.
Given this strain of the virus. >>
given this strain of the virus. >> Brangham:
Given this strain of the virus. >> Brangham: Even
given this strain of the virus. >> Brangham: Even the U.S., with
>> brangham: Even the U.S., with nearly half its population
vaccinated, and as people ditch
masks and pack back into
restaurants and arenas, the
delta variant is becoming the
dominant source of cases here as
well.
Well.
Well. Where
well. Where vaccination rates are low,
where vaccination rates are low, like in the south and some
western states, this variant is
growing.
Growing.
Growing. Public
growing. Public health officials say
public health officials say unvaccinated people account for
virtually all hospitalizations
and deaths in the U.S.
And deaths in the U.S. >>
and deaths in the U.S. >> you are still at risk of
getting seriously ill or dying
if you, in fact, have not been
vaccinated.
Vaccinated. That's
vaccinated. That's just a fact.
>>
that's just a fact. >> Brangham:
That's just a fact. >> Brangham: As
that's just a fact. >> Brangham: As July 4th
>> brangham: As July 4th approaches, the biden
administration has fallen short
on its goal of getting 70% of
Americans fully vaccinated.
And now it's begun shipping
and now it's begun shipping extra doses overseas, trying to
halt the spread of this delta
variant before it claims even
more lives.
More lives. For
more lives. For the pbs newshour, i'm
for the pbs newshour, i'm
for the pbs newshour, I'm William brangham.
William brangham. >> Woodruff: Let's understand
>> woodruff: Let's understand more about the delta variant's
growing threat, here and abroad.
Growing threat, here and abroad. We
growing threat, here and abroad. We turn to Dr.
Growing threat, here and abroad. We turn to Dr. Anthony
growing threat, here and abroad. We turn to Dr. Anthony fauci,
we turn to Dr. Anthony fauci, director of the national
institute of allergy and
infectious diseases at the
n.I.H.
N.i.h.
N.i.h. He's
n.i.h. He's also the president's chief
he's also the president's chief medical advisor.
Medical advisor. Dr. Fauci,
medical advisor. Dr. Fauci, thank you for being
with us again.
With us again. Many
with us again. Many Americans were starting to
many Americans were starting to feel we're moving w back to
normal, restrictions slowly
starting to be lifted.
Starting to be lifted. But
starting to be lifted. But now we see this variant,
but now we see this variant, other countries slamming on the
brakes.
Brakes.
Brakes. Just
brakes. Just how much of a game changer
just how much of a game changer is it?
Just how much of a game changer is it?
Is it?
Is it? >>
is it? >> Well, it certainly is a game
>> well, it certainly is a game changer, Judy, for people who
are not vaccinated.
Are not vaccinated. One
are not vaccinated. One of the issues that's very
one of the issues that's very very clear is that the vaccines
that are used in this country,
fundamentally t the vaccines
without any question are doing
well against promaticking
against symptomatic disease and
highly effective in preventing
severe disease leading to
hospitalizations or deaths.
Hospitalizations or deaths. The
hospitalizations or deaths. The concern we have is that we
the concern we have is that we have pockets in this country,
particularly put not exclusively
among certain southern states,
where the level of vaccination
is really dangerously low,
around 35% or so.
Around 35% or so. As
around 35% or so. As a country, we're doing very
as a country, we're doing very well, we have 50% of the adult
population is fully vaccinated.
Population is fully vaccinated. About
population is fully vaccinated. About 57 or 56% of the adult
about 57 or 56% of the adult population has received at least
one dose, and particularly among
the elderly, about 85-plus
percent of the elderly have
received one dose.
Received one dose. That's
received one dose. That's the good news is that, if
that's the good news is that, if you are vaccinated, in general,
you are doing fine.
You are doing fine. It's
you are doing fine. It's the concern about
it's the concern about unvaccinated people.
Unvaccinated people. So
unvaccinated people. So if ever there was, you know,
so if ever there was, you know, what I would say a clarion call
to people to please get
vaccinated, you can protect
yourself against a virus that
has a better capability of
spreading from person to person
and that could make you more
seriously ill.
Seriously ill. So
seriously ill. So that's the issue.
You
so that's the issue. You don't want to see two
you don't want to see two Americas, one that's protected
very nicely because the vaccines
work, and then certain pockets
of the country where you can
have these mini surges which
could be very disconcerting and
dangerous.
Dangerous. >>
dangerous. >> Woodruff:
Dangerous. >> Woodruff: Well,
dangerous. >> Woodruff: Well, how do
>> woodruff: Well, how do you -- I mean, in trying to
understand just how much more
worrying this new variant is, is
there a way to quantify that?
There a way to quantify that? I
there a way to quantify that? I mean, i'm
there a way to quantify that? I mean, I'm reading stories
about even people in Australia
who are quarantined in separate
hotel rooms, they're still
getting the covid, and there is
concern about air circulation.
Concern about air circulation. >>
concern about air circulation. >> Yeah, it is clearly more
>> yeah, it is clearly more transmissible by multi-fold, a
few times more.
Few times more. And
few times more. And if you look at the
and if you look at the hospitalization, there was a
study, Judy, from Scotland which
showed that hospitalizations
clearly had a few times more
likelihood of getting
hospitalized if you were
infected with the delta variant
versus the variants that were
previously circulating.
Previously circulating. In
previously circulating. In certain countries, the delta
in certain countries, the delta variant has become really quite
dominant.
Dominant.
Dominant. It
dominant. It has pushed aside the other
it has pushed aside the other variants that are there.
Variants that are there. This
variants that are there. This will happen in our country,
this will happen in our country, the united
this will happen in our country, the United States, in those
areas of unvaccinated people.
Areas of unvaccinated people. And
areas of unvaccinated people. And again, that the the reason
and again, that the the reason why we say we're dealing with
something we have to take very
seriously.
Seriously. It's
seriously. It's reel a dichotomy -- it's
it's reel a dichotomy -- it's really a dichotomy.
Really a dichotomy. If
really a dichotomy. If you're vaccinated, you're in
if you're vaccinated, you're in quite good shape.
Quite good shape. If
quite good shape. If you're not vaccinated, you're
if you're not vaccinated, you're at significant risk.
At significant risk. >>
at significant risk. >> Woodruff:
At significant risk. >> Woodruff: But
at significant risk. >> Woodruff: But until we see
>> woodruff: But until we see more Americans vaccinated, do
you believe there are going to
have to be restrictions
reimposed?
Reimposed? For
reimposed? For example, the world health
for example, the world health organization is saying people
should now again be wearing
masks indoors because of this
variant.
Variant.
Variant. >>
variant. >> Yeah, we have to be careful
>> yeah, we have to be careful of distinguishing what the world
health organization has to deal
with.
With.
With. The
with. The world health organization
the world health organization has to deal with recommendations
for the entire planet, which is
an undervaccinated planet, about
10% of the people are vaccinated
in the world.
In the world. Some
in the world. Some countries even less than
some countries even less than that.
That.
That. So
that. So there are some countries
so there are some countries where the virus is raging with a
high dynamics of spread.
High dynamics of spread. So,
high dynamics of spread. So, even if you are vaccinated
so, even if you are vaccinated and you are in that environment,
the chances with a vaccine that,
as good as it is, no vaccine is
100%, and we know that even the
good vaccines, the ones that we
really do know protect, protect
about 88% against infection
that's symptomatic and over 90%
against severe infection.
Against severe infection. There
against severe infection. There are vaccines being used
there are vaccines being used globally that are not nearly as
good as that, and then there are
those that have only received
one dose because of a shortage
of vaccinations, and we know
that, in certain situations, one
dose, the efficacy goes from 88%
down to 30%.
Down to 30%. So
down to 30%. So it's no wonder that the
so it's no wonder that the w.H.O.
So it's no wonder that the w.H.O. Is
so it's no wonder that the w.H.O. Is saying that, even if
w.h.o. Is saying that, even if you are vaccinated and you are
in an area with a high density
of virus, that you, in fact,
should still wear a mask
indoors.
Indoors.
Indoors. In
indoors. In the united
indoors. In the United States, it's a bit
in the United States, it's a bit different.
Different. We
different. We want to make clear that there
we want to make clear that there will be some people,
understandably, and nothing
wrong with that who are
vaccinated who don't want to
take any risks.
Take any risks. They're
take any risks. They're very risk-averse.
I
they're very risk-averse. I think elderly people and
people with underlying
conditions may consult with
their physicians and healthcare
provider and say I really don't
want to take any risk at all.
Want to take any risk at all. It's
want to take any risk at all. It's perfectly fine for those
it's perfectly fine for those people to wear a mask.
People to wear a mask. But
people to wear a mask. But as a country, the c.D.C., at
but as a country, the c.D.C., at this point,has not changed the
recommendation that if you are
vaccinated you do not need to
wear a mask.
Wear a mask. They
wear a mask. They are following the dynamics
they are following the dynamics of this outbreak literally on a
daily basis, and if the data
change to indicate there should
be a change in the guideline,
that change would be made.
That change would be made. But
that change would be made. But right now things will stay
but right now things will stay the same vis-a-vis the original
guidelines from the c.D.C.
Guidelines from the c.D.C. >>
guidelines from the c.D.C. >> Woodruff:
Guidelines from the c.D.C. >> Woodruff: So
guidelines from the c.D.C. >> Woodruff: So I hear you
>> woodruff: So I hear you saying the door is open,
possibly, to reinstating some
restrictions, depending on where
this variant goes.
This variant goes. Dr. Fauci,
this variant goes. Dr. Fauci, speaking of this
variant and protecting against
it, where does the research
stand right now in terms of
booster shots?
Booster shots? We
booster shots? We are reading there's more and
we are reading there's more and more reason to believe that
Americans will need boosters.
>> Well, there is research and
>> well, there is research and multiple studies, Judy, going on
right now, some sponsored by us
at the n.I.H., some sponsored by
the companies themselves, that
are trying to determine what the
feasibility and the necessity of
a booster is, and it's based on
two or three considerations.
Two or three considerations. You
two or three considerations. You boost for durability of
you boost for durability of response -- in other words, you
get good protection but you're
not sure how long it lasts.
Not sure how long it lasts. You
not sure how long it lasts. You could monitor that either by
you could monitor that either by monitoring laboratory data like
correlates of immunity or
whether or not you get more
breakthrough infections than you
would have predicted.
Would have predicted. That's
would have predicted. That's one thing.
Then
that's one thing. Then there's the idea of a
then there's the idea of a booster that might be a booster
against a specific variant.
Against a specific variant. Up
against a specific variant. Up to now, even though we're
up to now, even though we're testing for that, we haven't had
to seriously consider that
because the vaccines that we are
using now, as I mentioned a
moment ago, seemed to be doing
quite well, even against the
delta variant.
Delta variant. Bottom
delta variant. Bottom line, you keep an open
bottom line, you keep an open mind always.
Mind always. You
mind always. You do the research in case you
you do the research in case you have to use boosters.
Have to use boosters. I
have to use boosters. I would think it was likely at
some time we may need a booster.
Some time we may need a booster. When
some time we may need a booster. When that will be will be
when that will be will be determined by the studies that
are being done.
Are being done. >>
are being done. >> Woodruff:
Are being done. >> Woodruff: And
are being done. >> Woodruff: And finally,
>> woodruff: And finally, Dr.
>> Woodruff: And finally, Dr. Fauci,
>> woodruff: And finally, Dr. Fauci, your message to
Americans who are wavering right
now, who are still reluctant to
get the vaccine?
Get the vaccine? >>
get the vaccine? >> Well, the data are looking
>> well, the data are looking you square in the face.
You square in the face. Please,
you square in the face. Please, for your own safety, for
please, for your own safety, for the safety of your family, and
for your communal responsibility
to get the virus crushed, you do
that when you get the
overwhelming proportion of the
population vaccinated.
Population vaccinated. So
population vaccinated. So I encourage, very strongly,
so I encourage, very strongly, people who are hesitant to get
vaccinated to please get
vaccinated.
Vaccinated. >>
vaccinated. >> Woodruff:
Vaccinated. >> Woodruff: Dr. Anthony
>> woodruff: Dr. Anthony fauci, we appreciate it.
Fauci, we appreciate it. Thank
fauci, we appreciate it. Thank you.
Thank you. >>
thank you. >> Thank you, Judy.
Good
>> thank you, Judy. Good to be with
>>
>> woodruff:
>> Woodruff: Today
>> woodruff: Today there is a fragile cease-fire in tigray, in
northern Ethiopia, after
Ethiopian forces and their
allies withdrew from the region
they largely occupied late last
year.
Year.
Year. It
year. It is, for now, a dramatic turn
it is, for now, a dramatic turn in a conflict that has killed
thousands, uprooted millions,
and featured atrocities the
international community say were
committed by the government of a
nobel-prize winning prime
minister.
Minister.
Minister. And
minister. And today, tigray rebels, are
and today, tigray rebels, are claiming victory.
Claiming victory. Here's
claiming victory. Here's Nick schifrin.
>>
here's Nick schifrin. >> Schifrin:
Here's Nick schifrin. >> Schifrin: Today
here's Nick schifrin. >> Schifrin: Today in tigray,
>> schifrin: Today in tigray, celebration, for what tigrayans
are calling “liberation day.”
Are calling “liberation day.” in
are calling “liberation day.” in the city of shire, residents
posted cell phone videos of
tigrayan rebels entering the
city, flying the tigrayan flag.
City, flying the tigrayan flag. Just
city, flying the tigrayan flag. Just hours before, tigray's
just hours before, tigray's capital makele erupted in
fireworks, after Ethiopian
soldiers retreated.
Soldiers retreated. For
soldiers retreated. For the last eight months those
for the last eight months those Ethiopian soldiers, with allies
from neighboring Eritrea, left a
trail of scorched earth.
Trail of scorched earth. They
trail of scorched earth. They occupied much of tigray, in
they occupied much of tigray, in a conflict with tigrayan
military and political forces
who used to run the country, and
recently defied nobel peace-
prize winning prime minister,
abiy Ahmed.
Abiy Ahmed. Ahmed
abiy Ahmed. Ahmed and the military responded
with what international
humanitarian groups call
widespread atrocities.
Widespread atrocities. The
widespread atrocities. The most violent, just last
the most violent, just last week-- children and more than 60
civilians, killed while they
shopped at a market bombed by
Ethiopian planes.
Ethiopian planes. Families wailed, and waited for
families wailed, and waited for 27 hours for international
health care workers, after
Ethiopian ground troops blocked
access.
Access.
Access. When
access. When a convoy of ambulances
when a convoy of ambulances finally carried away the
wounded, so many arrived at a
hospital 20 miles away, the
rooms overflowed, and the lobby
became a triage center.
Became a triage center. The
became a triage center. The victims, barely older than
the victims, barely older than this civil war.
This civil war. A
this civil war. A mother looked on as Dr.
This civil war. A mother looked on as Dr. Kinfe
a mother looked on as Dr. Kinfe redae tries to save a young
life.
Life.
Life. >>
life. >> You can see this patient has
>> you can see this patient has sustained an injury to the
abdomen and the chest.
Abdomen and the chest. >>
abdomen and the chest. >> Schifrin:
Abdomen and the chest. >> Schifrin: Ethiopian
abdomen and the chest. >> Schifrin: Ethiopian soldiers
>> schifrin: Ethiopian soldiers are accused of systematic rape.
Are accused of systematic rape. This
are accused of systematic rape. This teenager is six months
this teenager is six months pregnant.
Pregnant.
Pregnant. She
pregnant. She says nowhere in tigray was
she says nowhere in tigray was safe.
Safe.
Safe. >>
safe. >> ( Translated ):
Safe. >> ( Translated ): If
safe. >> ( Translated ): If you stay
>> ( translated ): If you stay home, you will die.
Home, you will die. If
home, you will die. If you go out there, you will
if you go out there, you will die.
Die.
Die. If
die. If i'm
die. If I'm going to die anyway, I
if I'm going to die anyway, I would rather die fighting.
Would rather die fighting. >>
would rather die fighting. >> Schifrin:
Would rather die fighting. >> Schifrin: They
would rather die fighting. >> Schifrin: They pushed tigray
>> schifrin: They pushed tigray to the brink of famine.
To the brink of famine. Usaid
to the brink of famine. Usaid says 900,000 face famine
usaid says 900,000 face famine conditions.
Conditions. The
conditions. The u.N.
Conditions. The u.N. Says
conditions. The u.N. Says five million
the u.N. Says five million urgently need assistance.
Urgently need assistance. And
urgently need assistance. And Ethiopian troops are
and Ethiopian troops are believed to have targeted the
very organizations trying to
help, including the offices of
doctors without borders.
Doctors without borders. Last
doctors without borders. Last week spaniard Maria
last week spaniard Maria Hernandez's car was ambushed,
and she and two colleagues, were
murdered.
Murdered.
Murdered. The
murdered. The fighting produced an exodus.
1.7
the fighting produced an exodus. 1.7 million tigrayans fled their
homes.
Homes.
Homes. The
homes. The government's critics called
the government's critics called the conflict an attempt to
repress an entire region, and
ethnicity, as they admitted
earlier this year, to e.U.
Ethnicity, as they admitted earlier this year, to e.U. Envoy
pekka haavisto.
Pekka haavisto. >>
pekka haavisto. >> They really used this kind of
>> they really used this kind of language that they are going to
destroy the tigrayans, they are
going to wipe out the tigrayans
for 100 years and so forth.
For 100 years and so forth. >>
for 100 years and so forth. >> Schifrin:
For 100 years and so forth. >> Schifrin: Until
for 100 years and so forth. >> Schifrin: Until today, the
>> schifrin: Until today, the government had been defiant.
Government had been defiant. The
government had been defiant. The military said it only
the military said it only targets rebels, not civilians.
Targets rebels, not civilians. Abiy
targets rebels, not civilians. Abiy denied tigray was
abiy denied tigray was experiencing famine.
Experiencing famine. And
experiencing famine. And during recent parliamentary
and during recent parliamentary elections, he said he could
unite the country.
Unite the country. Today
unite the country. Today the government described
today the government described its retreat, as a humanitarian
cease fire.
Cease fire. But
cease fire. But Ethiopian forces have
but Ethiopian forces have recently lost ground to
regrouped tigrayan rebels.
Regrouped tigrayan rebels. And
regrouped tigrayan rebels. And international pressure and
and international pressure and punishment, has increased.
Punishment, has increased. Just
punishment, has increased. Just today, the state department
just today, the state department warned of further sanctions if
Ethiopia and its allies'
withdrawal, wasn't permanent.
Withdrawal, wasn't permanent. >>
withdrawal, wasn't permanent. >> If the government's
>> if the government's announcement of a cessation of
hostilities does not result in
improvements and the situation
continues to worsen, Ethiopia
and Eritrea should anticipate
further actions.
Further actions. We
further actions. We will not stand by in the face
we will not stand by in the face of horrors in tigray.
Of horrors in tigray. >>
of horrors in tigray. >> Schifrin:
Of horrors in tigray. >> Schifrin: For
of horrors in tigray. >> Schifrin: For more on today's
>> schifrin: For more on today's events and where we go from
here, we turn to aly verjee, a
senior adviser to the Africa
program at the U.S.
Senior adviser to the Africa program at the U.S. institute
senior adviser to the Africa program at the U.S. institute of
peace, a nonprofit organization
dedicated to resolving conflict
abroad.
Abroad.
Abroad. Aly
abroad. Aly verjee, welcome to the
aly verjee, welcome to the "newshour".
"Newshour". At
"newshour". At tigrayen forces have captured
at tigrayen forces have captured the capitol but they have not
accepted the unilateral and do
you expect tigray forces to try
to be on the offensive.
To be on the offensive. >>
to be on the offensive. >> I think so.
There are still some parts to
there are still some parts to have the region that they don't
have full control over.
Have full control over. They're
have full control over. They're still other forces
they're still other forces present in the arrearage and
there's suggesting they aren't
ready to have a cease fire as
far as their combat activities.
Far as their combat activities. >>
far as their combat activities. >> Reporter:
Far as their combat activities. >> Reporter: And,
far as their combat activities. >> Reporter: And, of course,
>> reporter: And, of course, part of the reason is there are
other forces involved in this,
it's not just Ethiopians.
It's not just Ethiopians. It's
it's not just Ethiopians. It's not clear where the
it's not clear where the tigrayian forces will withdraw
or harans that will withdraw.
Or harans that will withdraw. Do
or harans that will withdraw. Do you feel this fighting is not
do you feel this fighting is not over?
Over?
Over? >>
over? >> Unfortunately, I think the
>> unfortunately, I think the potential for more fighting is
there.
There.
There. The
there. The cease fire is a good step.
It's
the cease fire is a good step. It's a necessary step, but it
it's a necessary step, but it didn't mean fighting will end
conclusively.
Conclusively. >>
conclusively. >> Reporter:
Conclusively. >> Reporter: Let's
conclusively. >> Reporter: Let's talk about
>> reporter: Let's talk about why Ethiopia's prime minister is
on the verge of declearing
senate intelligence committee
riin recent elections.
Riin recent elections. He's
riin recent elections. He's under diplomatic economic
he's under diplomatic economic pressure from the international
community, and his pores thes,
frankly, were routed by some
tigrayian forces on the ground.
Tigrayian forces on the ground. Are
tigrayian forces on the ground. Are those the reasons we're
are those the reasons we're seeing the cease fire today?
Seeing the cease fire today? >>
seeing the cease fire today? >> I think probably those are
the reasons.
The reasons. Clearly,
the reasons. Clearly, the military advances
clearly, the military advances of the tigrayian forces in the
last few days have been rather
rapid, decisive in terms of
their effect, and that has put
the government of Ethiopia, the
forces of the federal government
under significant pressure, but,
at the same time, it's probably
not the only factor.
Not the only factor. There's
not the only factor. There's been pressure building
there's been pressure building for some time on the prime
minister to halt the
hostilities, withdraw forces,
that's international pressure,
that's also pressure from the
region, and the fact that the
elections are now out of the way
also, perhaps, plays a role
because, prior to the elections,
there was a great deal of
discussion within Ethiopia and
other parts of the country about
how necessary it was to continue
this conflict, while other poem
thought the war was necessary.
Thought the war was necessary. Actually,
thought the war was necessary. Actually, there was a degree of
actually, there was a degree of popularity attached to it.
Popularity attached to it. So,
popularity attached to it. So, clearly, acting before the
so, clearly, acting before the elections might have been more
difficult for the prime
minister, but with the elections
out of the way, it's no longer
the same consideration it once
was.
Was.
Was. >>
was. >> Reporter:
Was. >> Reporter: How
was. >> Reporter: How important is
>> reporter: How important is this moment for the feature of
Ethiopia?
Ethiopia?
Ethiopia? What's the risk if the prime
what's the risk if the prime minister doesn't start a genuine
political dialogue with tigray?
Political dialogue with tigray? There
political dialogue with tigray? There are others that are
there are others that are watching this closely.
Watching this closely. >>
watching this closely. >> First, in tigray itself, as
>> first, in tigray itself, as we have discussed, there's a by
no means a certainty that the
violence will end definitively,
and even if it were, then the
very dramatic humanitarian
situation that exists isn't
going to be reversed overnight.
Going to be reversed overnight. If
going to be reversed overnight. If people are on the verge of
if people are on the verge of famine, that won't change by
tomorrow.
Tomorrow.
Tomorrow. As
tomorrow. As you say, elsewhere in
as you say, elsewhere in Ethiopia, center also plenty of
problems of insecurity, of
grievance.
Grievance. They
grievance. They aren't necessarily directly
they aren't necessarily directly related to tigray.
Related to tigray. In
related to tigray. In cost cases not.
But
in cost cases not. But in reality the grievances
but in reality the grievances have many commonalities as far
as how effective the government
is and what the vision for the
country will be.
Country will be. So,
country will be. So, in that sense, people are
so, in that sense, people are certainly looking at what's
happening in tigray.
Happening in tigray. >>
happening in tigray. >> Reporter:
Happening in tigray. >> Reporter: On
happening in tigray. >> Reporter: On the
>> reporter: On the humanitarian side, how dire is
the situation for the displaced
and for refugees?
And for refugees? Are
and for refugees? Are they getting what they need?
>>
are they getting what they need? >> There seem to be around
>> there seem to be around 2 million people who are
internally displaced.
Internally displaced. The
internally displaced. The number of refugees is much
the number of refugees is much smaller but a significant one.
Smaller but a significant one. What
smaller but a significant one. What we know at the moment is
what we know at the moment is humanitarian access has been a
severe challenge and that most
people who are in need of
assistance haven't been getting
the sufficient systems that's
required.
Required.
Required. So
required. So one real test now will be to
so one real test now will be to see if the cease fire actually
changes the humanitarian access
questions.
Questions. If
questions. If you look at what happened as
if you look at what happened as the federal forces withdraw,
with attacks on the offices of
u.N.
With attacks on the offices of u.N. Agencies,
with attacks on the offices of u.N. Agencies, for example, the
u.n. Agencies, for example, the looting of some equipment, it
wasn't a very promising sign.
Wasn't a very promising sign. We'll
wasn't a very promising sign. We'll have to see if, in the
we'll have to see if, in the next few days and weeks, that
improves, and if there's a
genuine attempt to allow
humanitarian access and systems
to come into where it's needed
most.
Most.
Most. >>
most. >> Reporter:
Most. >> Reporter: Aly
most. >> Reporter: Aly verjee of the
>> reporter: Aly verjee of the u.S.I.P., thank you very
>>
>> woodruff:
>> Woodruff: And
>> woodruff: And now, we bring you the final installment
in our higher education series.
In our higher education series. Over
in our higher education series. Over the last month we've heard
over the last month we've heard stories about how students
and institutions have been
upended by the pandemic.
Upended by the pandemic. Tonight,
upended by the pandemic. Tonight, we take a more hopeful
tonight, we take a more hopeful look at students who have been
inspired by the events of the
last year and returned to
school.
School.
School. Hari
school. Hari sreenivasan has this report
hari sreenivasan has this report for our series, "rethinking
college."
College."
College." >>
college." >> sreenivasan:
College." >> sreenivasan: Graduation
college." >> sreenivasan: Graduation day
at Howard university.
At Howard university. Student
at Howard university. Student ahmari Anthony,
student ahmari Anthony, started her senior year in the
middle of the pandemic, and this
day was not guaranteed.
Day was not guaranteed. >>
day was not guaranteed. >> I had some doubts.
Sometimes I really did.
We
sometimes I really did. We didn't find out we were
we didn't find out we were having an in-person graduation
until the last week of march.
Until the last week of march. So
until the last week of march. So initially I was thinking that
so initially I was thinking that I was going to be on zoom in my
bedroom at home walking that
way.
Way.
Way. >>
way. >> Sreenivasan:
Way. >> Sreenivasan: Anthony
way. >> Sreenivasan: Anthony majored
>> sreenivasan: Anthony majored in journalism, and not too long
ago, hoped to begin a career as
an investigative journalist.
An investigative journalist. But
an investigative journalist. But in the midst of this
but in the midst of this unprecedented year,
unprecedented year, something changed for her.
Something changed for her. >>
something changed for her. >> I just felt like, you know,
there was a lot of people
raising awareness and there was
a lot of people studying and
researching, willing to talk
about what was going on.
About what was going on. But
about what was going on. But there weren't enough people
but there weren't enough people who were able to or willing to
act at the time.
Act at the time. And
act at the time. And I felt like that's what I
and I felt like that's what I really had to do.
Really had to do. >>
really had to do. >> Sreenivasan:
Really had to do. >> Sreenivasan: So
really had to do. >> Sreenivasan: So after four
>> sreenivasan: So after four years of college, instead of
looking for jobs, she decided to
start on a completely new career
path.
Path.
Path. This
path. This fall, she'll be going back
this fall, she'll be going back to Howard to begin a masters
program in social work.
Program in social work. >>
program in social work. >> There's not enough people who
>> there's not enough people who feel empowered to be able to act
on what is going on right now.
On what is going on right now. Everyone
on what is going on right now. Everyone feels like things are
everyone feels like things are out of their control.
Out of their control. A
out of their control. A lot of people felt helpless.
A
a lot of people felt helpless. A lot of people felt alone.
And
a lot of people felt alone. And I think that I really enjoy
and I think that I really enjoy working with people and being
able to empower them to solve
their own issues and come up
with their own solutions to what
they're facing.
They're facing. >>
they're facing. >> Sreenivasan:
They're facing. >> Sreenivasan: For
they're facing. >> Sreenivasan: For Anthony,
>> sreenivasan: For Anthony, part of it was seeing the
effects of the pandemic first
hand.
Hand.
Hand. >>
hand. >> I remember at the beginning
of the pandemic, my grandfather,
like, got laid off and he's
older.
Older.
Older. So
older. So he was working past
so he was working past retirement age anyways, and he
had started going to the food
bank and he would have to sit in
the food bank line for hours to
be able to get food.
Be able to get food. And
be able to get food. And he wasn't even, as you know,
and he wasn't even, as you know, I guess, high need as other
people were, other people who
>> sreenivasan:
People were, other people who >> sreenivasan: Then
people were, other people who >> sreenivasan: Then came the
murder of George Floyd.
Murder of George Floyd. Anthony
murder of George Floyd. Anthony took part in the massive
social justice movement that
followed and watched the
conviction of Derek chauvin last
month, but in the reactions she
saw how much work still needs to
be done.
Be done.
Be done. People
be done. People treated is like, okay,
people treated is like, okay, this one person has been
punished for the wrong thing
that they did.
That they did. But
that they did. But it's not about like one
but it's not about like one person.
Person.
Person. It's
person. It's very clearly not about one
it's very clearly not about one person.
Person.
Person. Like
person. Like it's not only a culture,
like it's not only a culture, but it's also like structures
and systems that we have in
place that need to be changed
and it's life or death.
And it's life or death. And
and it's life or death. And George Floyd really cemented
and George Floyd really cemented that in my mind.
That in my mind. >>
that in my mind. >> Sreenivasan:
That in my mind. >> Sreenivasan: About
that in my mind. >> Sreenivasan: About 1,000
>> sreenivasan: About 1,000 miles away, Zachary whitten
lives on his family's farm in
laneville, Texas, population
1,193.
1,193.
1,193. >>
1,193. >> Sreenivasan: He was born and
>> sreenivasan: He was born and raised here, but spent the last
decade traveling around the
back in 2008 he graduated from
junior college with a degree in
psychology, but felt like
continuing education wasn't for
him.
Him.
Him. But
him. But this last year sparked
but this last year sparked something in him as well.
Something in him as well. >>
something in him as well. >> There are a lot of cracks
>> there are a lot of cracks that I feel were exposed during
the election and during the
pandemic that I feel need to be
addressed and have not been
addressed.
Addressed. >>
addressed. >> Sreenivasan:
Addressed. >> Sreenivasan: Because
addressed. >> Sreenivasan: Because of
>> sreenivasan: Because of laneville's isolation, whitten
has been fortunately spared
much of the effects of the
pandemic.
Pandemic.
Pandemic. But
pandemic. But he wasn't spared from the
but he wasn't spared from the political upheaval unfolding in
the country.
The country. Much
the country. Much of it was playing out right
much of it was playing out right in front of his eyes on
Facebook.
Facebook.
Facebook. >> When I moved back, I decided
>> when I moved back, I decided >> I mean, one of the things
that really concerned me was the
amount of misinformation and
ignorance in the in the literal
sense of the word, you know,
that that was out there.
That that was out there. >>
that that was out there. >> Sreenivasan:
That that was out there. >> Sreenivasan: Whitten
that that was out there. >> Sreenivasan: Whitten had
>> sreenivasan: Whitten had always been interested in
politics but for the first time
he felt compelled to get more
actively involved.
Actively involved. Last
actively involved. Last fall, he returned to school
last fall, he returned to school at the university of Texas-Tyler
with the hope of getting a
bachelor's degree in politics
next year.
Next year. He's
next year. He's hoping this formal
he's hoping this formal education and his unique blend
of experiences, he'll be able
to bridge the political
divisiveness and stem the
misinformation he's seeing.
Misinformation he's seeing. >>
misinformation he's seeing. >> I mean, I have I have I have
a rural background.
A rural background. I
a rural background. I have a hispanic background.
You know, I've traveled around
you know, I've traveled around quite a bit and been exposed to
a bunch of different cultures.
A bunch of different cultures. I'm
a bunch of different cultures. I'm hoping that talking to them
just in a calm, you know, an
amicable way and telling them
about my story and telling them
about my experiences and then
listening to their experiences
and making them kind of realize
that there's not that much
difference between different
people.
People.
People. >>
people. >> Sreenivasan:
People. >> Sreenivasan: Whitten
people. >> Sreenivasan: Whitten admits
>> sreenivasan: Whitten admits he could've just as easily
stayed where he was, but now was
the time to act.
The time to act. >>
the time to act. >> I'm hoping to essentially be
the change that you want to see
in the world.
The change that you want to see in the world. You
the change that you want to see in the world. You know.
In the world. You know. I
in the world. You know. I feel like for a while a lot of
>> sreenivasan: For ahmari
Anthony back in Washington,
D.C., the decision to go back to
school was also a bit of a leap.
School was also a bit of a leap. >>
school was also a bit of a leap. >> I'm like the second person in
my family to graduate from
college.
College.
College. So,
college. So, you know, going after a
so, you know, going after a master's degree was kind of it
wasn't something that I
realistically saw for myself.
Realistically saw for myself. >>
realistically saw for myself. >> Sreenivasan:
Realistically saw for myself. >> Sreenivasan: But
realistically saw for myself. >> Sreenivasan: But after
>> sreenivasan: But after conversations with her family
and reflection on the future, it
all started to make sense.
All started to make sense. >>
all started to make sense. >> It's like if you think that
>> it's like if you think that you have an opportunity to help
someone, even if it's one
person, even if it's a little
tiny way, even like, you know,
like living in a tent, why would
you not take that opportunity?
You not take that opportunity? If
you not take that opportunity? If you feel like you're stuck
if you feel like you're stuck between a rock and a hard place
and one has the potential of
even making your life or someone
else's life the littlest bit
better, I think that that risk
is always worth it.
Is always worth it. >>
is always worth it. >> Sreenivasan:
Is always worth it. >> Sreenivasan: For
is always worth it. >> Sreenivasan: For the pbs
>> sreenivasan: For the pbs newshour, i'm
>> sreenivasan: For the pbs newshour, I'm hari
>>
>> woodruff:
>> Woodruff: 2021
>> woodruff: 2021 has seen black women reach new heights in the
halls of U.S.
Women reach new heights in the halls of U.S. government,
women reach new heights in the halls of U.S. government, from
kamala Harris as vice president,
to a record-setting number of
black women in congress and in
mayor's offices.
Mayor's offices. While
mayor's offices. While many celebrate the
while many celebrate the increase in representation, many
of these elected leaders also
face harassment and threats.
Face harassment and threats. Amna
face harassment and threats. Amna nawaz has their story as
amna nawaz has their story as part of our race matters series.
Part of our race matters series. >>
part of our race matters series. >> Nawaz:
Part of our race matters series. >> Nawaz: That's
part of our race matters series. >> Nawaz: That's right, Judy,
>> nawaz: That's right, Judy, many of these politicians have
told the news hour their stories
of fear and concern while trying
to do their jobs.
To do their jobs. Candice
to do their jobs. Candice norwood is the digital
politics reporter who led the
reporting effort for newshour,
and she joins me now.
And she joins me now. Candice,
and she joins me now. Candice, welcome to you.
>> Hi, amna. Thanks.
>>
>> hi, amna. Thanks. >> Nawaz:
>> Hi, amna. Thanks. >> Nawaz: So
>> hi, amna. Thanks. >> Nawaz: So we want to unpack a
>> nawaz: So we want to unpack a little bit more about some of
this remarkable reporting you've
spent months pulling together.
Spent months pulling together. But
spent months pulling together. But first, let's just take a
but first, let's just take a quick listen to some of the
women you spoke to.
Women you spoke to. >>
women you spoke to. >> I remember at the beginning
of the one 116th congress when
we were just spotlighting and
highlighting the beautiful
diversity of this incoming
congress.
Congress.
Congress. But
congress. But then on every caucus call,
but then on every caucus call, we had members who were
literally saying, you know, they
were getting death threats on a
daily basis.
Daily basis. >>
daily basis. >> Early on, when we were
>> early on, when we were getting the list of like
credible threats coming in for
members of congress, there were
centered around members of color
and there are only 25 black
women that serve in the united
women that serve in the United States congress.
States congress. And
states congress. And so it's not like I can blend
and so it's not like I can blend in with my colleagues because
there's not that many of us.
There's not that many of us. >>
there's not that many of us. >> I am always thinking, wow,
okay, if somebody came in to the
capitol building right now and
they wanted to shoot all the
black people here, what's my
plan?
Plan?
Plan? How
plan? How do I escape, how do I get
how do I escape, how do I get out of here?
Out of here? >>
out of here? >> One of the turning points for
>> one of the turning points for me and my campaign was during
the George Floyd protests when
someone, we still don't know
who, drove by one of the
Democratic party offices in my
district where my sign was in
the window, there were black
lives matter signs in the window
and someone shot bullet holes.
And someone shot bullet holes. >>
and someone shot bullet holes. >> Nawaz:
And someone shot bullet holes. >> Nawaz: So
and someone shot bullet holes. >> Nawaz: So Candice, it is
>> nawaz: So Candice, it is incredibly disturbing to hear
those fears and concerns from
those four women.
Those four women. You
those four women. You spoke to a number of women,
you spoke to a number of women, though, right?
Though, right? How
though, right? How common were those
how common were those experiences?
Experiences? >>
experiences? >> Yeah, so I and my reporting
>> yeah, so I and my reporting partners, Chloe Jones and Liz
bolaji, spoke with 18 women in
politics, black women in
politics at all levels of
government, and 17 of them
recounted similar experiences
with verbal abuse and physical
threats.
Threats.
Threats. Kiah
threats. Kiah Morris is a former Vermont
kiah Morris is a former Vermont legislator who suffered years of
harassment and finally resigned
in 2018.
In 2018.
In 2018. At
in 2018. At the time, she and her husband
at the time, she and her husband lived in his childhood home and
decided to move for safety
concerns to a different city.
Concerns to a different city. But
concerns to a different city. But even in that new city and
but even in that new city and that new home, their now 10 year
old son built a panic room type
space, remembering the kind of
the experiences they had back in
their previous city.
Their previous city. And
their previous city. And it's not just physical
and it's not just physical threats, it's also verbal abuse,
and these women recounted
experiencing a daily barrage of
these verbal attacks.
These verbal attacks. Baltimore
these verbal attacks. Baltimore state's attorney
Marilyn mosby recounted an
experience listening to a
voicemail that was sent to her
that was laced with expletives
and racial slurs.
And racial slurs. And
and racial slurs. And we actually have a clip that
and we actually have a clip that we're going to play now and a
warning to our viewers it does
contain strong language.
Contain strong language. >>
contain strong language. >> If we'd known you all were
>> if we'd known you all were going to be this much trouble,
we would have picked our own
( Bleep )
We would have picked our own ( Bleep ) Cotton.
>>
( bleep ) Cotton. >> And I should also note that
>> and I should also note that though we spoke with 18 women,
we did receive some hesitation
and some reluctance to speak
with us.
With us.
With us. And
with us. And we heard not only from
and we heard not only from academic experts we spoke with,
but also the women themselves,
that when they do speak out on
these issues, they often see a
rise in the abusive treatment,
the attacks.
The attacks. >>
the attacks. >> Nawaz:
The attacks. >> Nawaz: You
the attacks. >> Nawaz: You also asked many of
>> nawaz: You also asked many of these women what it's like to
carry that fear and concern
through their days as they're
doing this job.
Doing this job. Let's
doing this job. Let's take a listen to what some
let's take a listen to what some of them had to say.
Of them had to say. >>
of them had to say. >> You have a heavier
>> you have a heavier responsibility.
Responsibility. Your
responsibility. Your community's looking at you
your community's looking at you to represent them well.
To represent them well. The
to represent them well. The rest of the world thinks
the rest of the world thinks when you open your mouth, you
represent all black people, you
and so it does become one of
these situations where you
really are carrying the weight
of the world.
Of the world. >>
of the world. >> I used the line, when
congress starts to look like us,
nothing can stop us.
Nothing can stop us. And
nothing can stop us. And there was an onslaught of
and there was an onslaught of just backlash.
Just backlash. What
just backlash. What so many people were hearing
what so many people were hearing was when congress is all black
women.
Women.
Women. And
women. And I said, if that's all you
and I said, if that's all you see when you look at me, then
you forget the fact that i'm
see when you look at me, then you forget the fact that I'm a
mother and a teacher and, you
know, a community member and all
these different things that I am
are lost.
Are lost.
Are lost. >>
are lost. >> I intentionally came here
knowing I was going to be the
only black woman and that I have
natural hair.
Natural hair. And
natural hair. And so I speak very even-toned,
and so I speak very even-toned, just monotone, every time i'm
just monotone, every time I'm speaking in committee or on the
floor because I don't get the
right to do like the white men
do with slam books down and and
yell and be, use my outside
voice all the time.
Voice all the time. I
voice all the time. I don't have that privilege.
>> This is an incredibly
>> this is an incredibly crushing weight to carry on a
daily basis.
Daily basis. It
daily basis. It is mentally exhausting to
it is mentally exhausting to live in constant fear, feeling
like you're in a state of
constant fight or flight and not
knowing who to trust.
Knowing who to trust. >>
knowing who to trust. >> Nawaz:
Knowing who to trust. >> Nawaz: It's
knowing who to trust. >> Nawaz: It's so revealing
>> nawaz: It's so revealing Candice to hear them talking
about the pressure that they
face every day in the job.
Face every day in the job. But
face every day in the job. But you ask them about what it
but you ask them about what it took to get to that job in the
first place.
First place. What
first place. What did they share with you?
>>
what did they share with you? >> Yeah, so we know that in
>> yeah, so we know that in speaking with women broadly, but
also women from underrepresented
backgrounds, including black
women, that just to get them to
run for office, they often have
to be asked.
To be asked. And
to be asked. And so the women we spoke with
and so the women we spoke with described going through a series
of mental steps to even enter
that race.
That race. That
that race. That includes things like child
that includes things like child care, things like what a
political campaign, what that
strain would put on their
families and also the safety
measures.
Measures.
Measures. We
measures. We know that black women tend to
we know that black women tend to think about the legacy that
they're leaving and the doors
that they're opening for other
people.
People.
People. So
people. So they feel that pressure.
People. So they feel that pressure. And
so they feel that pressure. And we also know that women broadly
and also black women are less
likely to run for office again
than white men if they don't
succeed.
Succeed.
Succeed. >>
succeed. >> Nawaz:
Succeed. >> Nawaz: And
succeed. >> Nawaz: And what did they tell
>> nawaz: And what did they tell you about how all of this
impacts the work that they do,
the issues that they prioritize
once they're in office?
The issues that they prioritize once they're in office?
Once they're in office? >>
once they're in office? >> So we know that black women
>> so we know that black women feel deeply connected to their
communities that they are being
elected to represent.
Elected to represent. And
elected to represent. And research indicates that
and research indicates that black legislators broadly really
championed issues that center
the needs of different black
communities.
Communities. And
communities. And so they're promoting things
and so they're promoting things based on their diverse
backgrounds, they're often
coming from backgrounds that are
underrepresented in different
institutions of power.
Institutions of power. So
institutions of power. So someone who's connected to
so someone who's connected to immigration, someone who comes
from a life of poverty or single
parent household holds that
informs the work that they do
and the bills that they're
sponsoring.
Sponsoring. >>
sponsoring. >> Nawaz:
Sponsoring. >> Nawaz: Amid
sponsoring. >> Nawaz: Amid all this pressure
>> nawaz: Amid all this pressure and amid all this barrier
breaking, in many cases, even
the fear of death threats, in
many cases, you asked them about
what it is that keeps them
going.
Going.
Going. Let's
going. Let's take a listen to what some
let's take a listen to what some of them had to say.
Of them had to say. >>
of them had to say. >> I chose this road, no one
forced me.
Forced me. No
forced me. No one tied me up and said, do
no one tied me up and said, do it.
It.
It. If
it. If you if you don't, you know, I
if you if you don't, you know, I chose this path.
Chose this path. >>
chose this path. >> When things are happening,
>> when things are happening, especially around issues of
civil rights and voting rights,
I have an obligation to speak up
and stand up for my community.
And stand up for my community. >>
and stand up for my community. >> There's no way I can erase
>> there's no way I can erase being black or female.
Being black or female. And
being black or female. And I wouldn't if I could.
So
and I wouldn't if I could. So I just have to keep moving
so I just have to keep moving forward.
Forward.
Forward. >>
forward. >> Nawaz:
Forward. >> Nawaz: Candice,
forward. >> Nawaz: Candice, when you
>> nawaz: Candice, when you spoke to all these women, heard
all of their stories, what is it
that stood out to you about all
their experiences?
Their experiences? >>
their experiences? >> The weight of being one of a
>> the weight of being one of a few to be in these positions of
power and what that means and
this idea of if i'm
power and what that means and this idea of if I'm not the one
to champion these issues, who
will be, but also the idea some
women want to stay in power to
push back against a common
response that they hear that
you're a public official, you've
chosen this life, this life,
meaning a life of threats and
things like that.
Things like that. And
things like that. And they are saying no, right?
And
and they are saying no, right? And it's staying in power is a
and it's staying in power is a way to refute that.
Way to refute that. But
way to refute that. But then we also spoke to women
but then we also spoke to women who have hard lines.
Who have hard lines. Congresswoman
who have hard lines. Congresswoman Lauren Underwood
congresswoman Lauren Underwood from Illinois was very candid
about her feelings on being in
public office and saying that
she is not willing to die to do
this work.
This work. There
this work. There are other ways to serve
there are other ways to serve her community.
Her community. And
her community. And if the threats grow, if they
and if the threats grow, if they become worse, she's willing to
walk away.
Walk away. >>
walk away. >> Nawaz:
Walk away. >> Nawaz: It
walk away. >> Nawaz: It is a remarkable
>> nawaz: It is a remarkable piece of reporting.
Piece of reporting. It
piece of reporting. It lives online at the
it lives online at the newshour's website.
Newshour's website. And
newshour's website. And I know you led your team for
and I know you led your team for months to pull it together.
Months to pull it together. Candice
months to pull it together. Candice norwood, thank you so
much for being here.
Much for being here. >>
much for being here. >> Thank
>>
>> woodruff:
>> Woodruff: Last
>> woodruff: Last year, we brought you the stories of
migrants traveling through one
of the world's most lawless and
dangerous places:
Of the world's most lawless and dangerous places: The
of the world's most lawless and dangerous places: The Darien
gap, a roadless jungle expanse
along the border of Colombia and
Panama.
Panama.
Panama. Special correspondent nadja
special correspondent nadja drost and her husband,
videographer Bruno federico,
along with producer Carlos
villalon, traveled there under
harrowing circumstances to shed
light on people striving for
better lives.
Better lives. >>
better lives. >> Underneath the soaring
>> underneath the soaring canopy, migrants from around the
worked risked death crossing the
jungle in a desperate bid to
reach the U.S.
Jungle in a desperate bid to reach the U.S. and
jungle in a desperate bid to reach the U.S. and Canada.
Reach the U.S. and Canada. They
reach the U.S. and Canada. They have no map and no
they have no map and no instructions on how to make it
through one of the world's most
dangerous migration routes.
Dangerous migration routes. >>
dangerous migration routes. >> I would like to send a
message to anyone who is
thinking of doing this route.
Message to anyone who is thinking of doing this route.
Thinking of doing this route. It's
thinking of doing this route. It's very dangerous.
If
it's very dangerous. If I knew this, I wouldn't have
if I knew this, I wouldn't have done it.
Done it.
Done it. >>
done it. >> Many migrants spend a week or
>> many migrants spend a week or even two on this trail before
they reach a village and safety.
They reach a village and safety. But
they reach a village and safety. But these journeys started long
but these journeys started long before.
Before.
Before. >>
before. >> Woodruff:
Before. >> Woodruff: Two
before. >> Woodruff: Two weeks
>> woodruff: Two weeks >> woodruff:
>> Woodruff: Two weeks >> woodruff: Two
weeks >> woodruff: Two weeks ago,
nadja received a pulitzer prize
for her writing from that trip,
and last Thursday, she and Bruno
were named peabody award
winners, the most prestigious in
broadcasting, for their stories
reported for the newshour.
Reported for the newshour. That
reported for the newshour. That is an extraordinarily rare
that is an extraordinarily rare accomplishment, I spoke with
nadja last week shortly after
the news.
The news.
The news. Nadja,
the news. Nadja, congratulations.
Nadja, congratulations. It
nadja, congratulations. It doesn't come bigger than
it doesn't come bigger than this, a pulitzer prize on top of
a peabody, the two of them
together.
Together.
Together. How
together. How are you dealing with all of
how are you dealing with all of this?
This?
This? >>
this? >> I -- I don't know how i'm
this? >> I -- I don't know how I'm --
i'm
>> I -- I don't know how I'm -- I'm dealing with it, Judy.
It's a really wonderful shock,
it's a really wonderful shock, and I continue to kind of try to
make sense of it, and i'm
and I continue to kind of try to make sense of it, and I'm really
grateful for the honors, and i'm
grateful for the honors, and I'm especially grateful that, you
know, these stories are getting
renewed tension right now
because they're ongoing.
Because they're ongoing. >>
because they're ongoing. >> Woodruff:
Because they're ongoing. >> Woodruff: And
because they're ongoing. >> Woodruff: And you remind
>> woodruff: And you remind us, nadja, that their lives are
ongoing.
Ongoing.
Ongoing. As
ongoing. As we were pointing out, you
as we were pointing out, you stayed in touch with a number of
the migrants you met in covering
the Darien gap crossing.
The Darien gap crossing. Tell
the Darien gap crossing. Tell us about how some of them
tell us about how some of them are managing now.
Are managing now. >>
are managing now. >> Sure.
>> Sure.
>> Sure. So,
>> sure. So, you know, in each group that
so, you know, in each group that we followed and, you know, these
were groups from Haiti, from
Bangladesh, from Pakistan and
cam aroon, many spent months in
I.C.E.
Cam aroon, many spent months in I.C.E. Detention
cam aroon, many spent months in I.C.E. Detention and some were
I.c.e. Detention and some were deported.
Deported.
Deported. Many
deported. Many ended up having to wait
many ended up having to wait about a year to get work
permits.
Permits.
Permits. Some
permits. Some of them are still in that
some of them are still in that limbo.
Limbo.
Limbo. So
limbo. So it's very difficult for many
so it's very difficult for many of them to basically sustain
themselves in the U.S., right
now, especially having arrived
during the pandemic with
lockdowns.
Lockdowns. We
lockdowns. We followed a courtroom of
we followed a courtroom of Cameroonians, and some groups
might remember George, a
Cameroonian man who was severely
injured.
Injured.
Injured. He
injured. He had sprained his ankle and
he had sprained his ankle and his group had to basically leave
him behind in the jungle.
Him behind in the jungle. And
him behind in the jungle. And by a small miracle, George
and by a small miracle, George managed to literally crawl his
way through the jungle alone
without food for two weeks.
Without food for two weeks. I'm
without food for two weeks. I'm happy to report that George
now lives in Maryland.
Now lives in Maryland. I'll
now lives in Maryland. I'll also mention a remarkable
woman, Sandra, who was also a
part of this Cameroonian group.
Part of this Cameroonian group. Sandra
part of this Cameroonian group. Sandra spent eight months in
I.C.E. Detention, she was
I.c.e. Detention, she was transferred between facilities,
she was shackled and dressed in
a prisoner's uniform, axe lib.
A prisoner's uniform, axe lib. When
a prisoner's uniform, axe lib. When she was finally released,
when she was finally released, she was able to reunite with her
fianceé in Texas, and, meanwhil,
she's trying to create a new
life here in the united
she's trying to create a new life here in the United States
and has a newborn baby girl who
is three weeks old.
Is three weeks old. >>
is three weeks old. >> Woodruff:
Is three weeks old. >> Woodruff: So
is three weeks old. >> Woodruff: So many ups and
>> woodruff: So many ups and downs, as you say, in these
lives, as each individual tries
to make their way.
To make their way. Just
to make their way. Just finally, nadja, it's a hard
just finally, nadja, it's a hard enough situation as it is, but,
as you mentioned, along came the
pandemic.
Pandemic.
Pandemic. How
pandemic. How would you sum up how the
how would you sum up how the pandemic changed the migrate
trail for these people?
Trail for these people? >>
trail for these people? >> It did.
You
>> it did. You know, so many migrants who
you know, so many migrants who had already flown from Asia,
from south Asia, from Africa,
from the middle east became
stranded somewhere along the
route either in south
stranded somewhere along the route either in South America or
central
route either in South America or Central America.
Central America. We've now seen a tremendous
we've now seen a tremendous increase in the number of people
who are retaking this route and,
in fact, just in the months of
April and may, 5,000 migrants
each month have been crossing
the Darien gap for a total of
over 15,000 just in this year
alone, and I think that we
really can see in those numbers,
you know, they kind of tell the
story of the impact to have the
pandemic on -- the impact of the
pandemic on these migrants.
Pandemic on these migrants. >>
pandemic on these migrants. >> Woodruff:
Pandemic on these migrants. >> Woodruff: Truly
pandemic on these migrants. >> Woodruff: Truly the story
>> woodruff: Truly the story of the pandemic as well as the
story of each and every
individual to try to survive
tanned to create a life for
themselves.
Themselves. Nadja
themselves. Nadja drost, congratulations
nadja drost, congratulations again to you, to your husband
Bruno federico for this
extraordinary work you've done.
Extraordinary work you've done. The
extraordinary work you've done. The bulletser, the peabody, we
the bulletser, the peabody, we are so proud of you.
Are so proud of you. Thank
are so proud of you. Thank you very much.
>>
thank you very much. >> Thank you,
>>
>> woodruff:
>> Woodruff: With
>> woodruff: With summer underway, movie studios and box
offices are clamoring for
theater-goers to return as
pandemic restrictions ease.
Pandemic restrictions ease. And
pandemic restrictions ease. And there's evidence that it's
and there's evidence that it's beginning to happen.
Beginning to happen. The
beginning to happen. The latest installment of the
the latest installment of the fast and the furious franchise,
"f-9," earned $70 million this
past weekend, the biggest
opening for a movie since the
pandemic began.
Pandemic began. Jeffrey
pandemic began. Jeffrey brown looks at what else
theaters have in store this
summer for our arts and culture
series, canvas.
Series, canvas. >>
series, canvas. >> Brown:
Series, canvas. >> Brown: Movie
series, canvas. >> Brown: Movie theaters are
>> brown: Movie theaters are reopening across the country,
but are film lovers ready to
return.
Return.
Return. We
return. We look at some of the summer
we look at some of the summer films that hope to lure them
with "Washington post" film
critic Ann hornaday and Aisha
Harris, host of npr's "pop
culture happy hour."
Culture happy hour." Nice
culture happy hour." Nice to see you.
>>
nice to see you. >> Nice to see you.
>>
>> nice to see you. >> And in person.
>>
>> and in person. >> Brown:
>> And in person. >> Brown: Nice
>> and in person. >> Brown: Nice to see you,
>> brown: Nice to see you, Aisha.
Aisha.
Aisha. Let's start first before we get
let's start first before we get to films.
To films.
To films. Aisha,
to films. Aisha, are we seeing people
returning to movie theaters?
Returning to movie theaters? >>
returning to movie theaters? >> There are definitely people
>> there are definitely people who are ready to go back out
there, and I don't think it's
just cinephiles and film critics
like myself, you saw something
like a quiet place, part 2,
which did pretty well at the box
office.
Office.
Office. It
office. It opened with around, you know,
it opened with around, you know, with a lot a lot of buzz.
With a lot a lot of buzz. And
with a lot a lot of buzz. And it was held over from the
and it was held over from the pandemic.
Pandemic.
Pandemic. And
pandemic. And it is also the kind of movie
and it is also the kind of movie that is a thriller.
That is a thriller. It's
that is a thriller. It's crafted to be seen in a
it's crafted to be seen in a theater with other people.
Theater with other people. So
theater with other people. So I think that we are
so I think that we are definitely seeing people ready
to go back to theaters.
To go back to theaters. >>
to go back to theaters. >> Brown:
To go back to theaters. >> Brown: And
to go back to theaters. >> Brown: And what do you think?
>>
>> brown: And what do you think? >> I agree.
And I and I think it's
and I and I think it's fascinating that a quiet place 2
has already passed $100 million,
which was something of a
milestone in the pandemic era.
Milestone in the pandemic era. Also,
milestone in the pandemic era. Also, the conjuring sequel has
also, the conjuring sequel has done incredibly well.
Done incredibly well. And
done incredibly well. And horror, of course, is one of
and horror, of course, is one of those genres that demands to be
seen in the theater.
Seen in the theater. >>
seen in the theater. >> Brown:
Seen in the theater. >> Brown: You
seen in the theater. >> Brown: You got to go to the
>> brown: You got to go to the theater, right?
Theater, right? >>
theater, right? >> The pleasure of it is to
>> the pleasure of it is to experience those jump scares
together.
Together.
Together. >>
together. >> Brown:
Together. >> Brown: Why
together. >> Brown: Why don't you start
>> brown: Why don't you start with a couple of the
blockbusters that are coming
that the industry is really
relying on now?
Relying on now? >>
relying on now? >> Well, obviously, "black
>> well, obviously, "black widow," was it's the sort of
origin story of the Scarlett
Johansson character who's been
incredibly popular with marvel
fans.
Fans.
Fans. And
fans. And people have been including
and people have been including myself.
Myself.
Myself. We've
myself. We've been clamoring for a black
we've been clamoring for a black widow movie.
We've been clamoring for a black widow movie.
Widow movie. So
widow movie. So I think there's a really high
so I think there's a really high interest in that.
Interest in that. And
interest in that. And then f-nine, the latest
and then f-nine, the latest "fast and furious" installment,
that's just been a juggernaut of
a of a franchise.
A of a franchise. Again,
a of a franchise. Again, hugely fun to see on a
again, hugely fun to see on a big screen.
Big screen. That's,
big screen. That's, again, one of those
that's, again, one of those movies that I think Hollywood
and the studios are counting on,
people flocking to in the
theater.
Theater.
Theater. >>
theater. >> Brown:
Theater. >> Brown: What
theater. >> Brown: What about some other
>> brown: What about some other maybe smaller ones or middle of
the road that you're looking
forward to?
Forward to? >>
forward to? >> Well, I am especially excited
>> well, I am especially excited for everyone to see "zola,"
which premiered at Sundance
2020, right before everything
went bad and went south.
Went bad and went south. And
went bad and went south. And it's a it's a road trip
and it's a it's a road trip movie.
Movie.
Movie. It's
movie. It's an absurdist movie.
It's
it's an absurdist movie. It's a smaller movie that I hope
it's a smaller movie that I hope people go see and that we've
actually only going to be in
theaters for its original
release.
Release.
Release. It
release. It won't have a v.O.D.
Simultaneous
it won't have a v.O.D. Simultaneous release.
Simultaneous release. I
simultaneous release. I hope people check out "summer
of soul," which is a documentary
that premiered at this year's
Sundance that will be streaming
on hulu next month.
On hulu next month. It
on hulu next month. It captured, this festival that
it captured, this festival that occurred in 1969 in Harlem.
It captured, this festival that occurred in 1969 in Harlem. And
it was a brand musical festival
with everyone from Stevie wonder
to Gladys knight and the pips to
sly and the family stone.
Sly and the family stone. It
sly and the family stone. It was buried for 50 years and
it was buried for 50 years and now it's been unearthed.
Now it's been unearthed. And
now it's been unearthed. And the performances are just
and the performances are just fantastic.
Fantastic. >>
fantastic. >> Brown:
Fantastic. >> Brown: So
fantastic. >> Brown: So and you have a
>> brown: So and you have a couple that you really want you
want to make sure people know
about?
About?
About? >>
about? >> I'm a huge fan of that movie.
I also loved "coda," which was
one of the big titles that came
out of Sundance this year.
Out of Sundance this year. It's
out of Sundance this year. It's a coming of age story about
it's a coming of age story about a high school student who has
been the only hearing member of
her family.
Her family. So
her family. So she's been sort of their
so she's been sort of their translator to the outside world
and now she's trying to strike
out on her own and find her own
path.
Path.
Path. And
path. And it is touching.
It's
and it is touching. It's hilariously funny.
There's
it's hilariously funny. There's she's in a glee club, so
there's she's in a glee club, so there's great music.
There's great music. It
there's great music. It is a crowd pleaser.
And
it is a crowd pleaser. And then the other one i'm
and then the other one i'm
and then the other one I'm really looking forward to is
"respect," which is the aretha
Franklin biopic with Jennifer
Hudson.
Hudson.
Hudson. I'm very eager to see that.
>> Brown: We've come to a year
>> brown: We've come to a year that in some ways changed
everything, or how much did it
change in terms of big screens
and small screens?
And small screens? >>
and small screens? >> This is the question.
I
>> this is the question. I mean, I think the good news
about the past year is that it
has proven that people are as
into visual storytelling as
ever.
Ever.
Ever. I
ever. I mean, when you think about the
past 14, 15 months when we were
all zooming together, what did
we ask?
We ask?
We ask? What
we ask? What are you watching?
Now,
what are you watching? Now, the question is, do movies
now, the question is, do movies have a discreet presence amid
that firehose of image, sound
and image and storytelling?
And image and storytelling? And
and image and storytelling? And I do think that these early
and I do think that these early numbers from theatrical film
going on are encouraging because
people are seeing them when they
can and where they want to,
>> brown:
Can and where they want to, >> brown: Aisha,
can and where they want to, >> brown: Aisha, what do you see
in terms of how movies are made
and where they'll be seen now?
And where they'll be seen now? >>
and where they'll be seen now? >> I agree with that, and I also
think we were having these
conversations before the
pandemic about what the future
of moviegoing was, and I think
that they're going to continue.
That they're going to continue. My
that they're going to continue. My biggest fear and concern is
my biggest fear and concern is that people will go back to the
theaters, but only to see the
big budget movies like "f nine,"
like "a quiet place."
Like "a quiet place." And
like "a quiet place." And I fear that these smaller
and I fear that these smaller movies, like the ones we've just
talked about, may not be as
successful on screen.
Successful on screen. But
successful on screen. But to me, if people can see
but to me, if people can see films in any way, shape or form,
even if it's not the way that I
would personally prefer to see
it, I think that's a win for the
industry overall.
Industry overall. >>
industry overall. >> Brown:
Industry overall. >> Brown: All
industry overall. >> Brown: All right, Aisha
>> brown: All right, Aisha Harris of npr, Ann hornaday of
the "Washington post," thank you
very much.
Very much. >>
very much. >> Thank you.
>>
>> thank you. >> Thank you.
And
>> thank you. And an update to our coverage
and an update to our coverage of the condominium collapse
story.
Story.
Story. The
story. The mayor of Miami-dade county
the mayor of Miami-dade county said the confirmed death toll in
surfside, Florida has now risen
to 12 people.
Surfside, Florida has now risen to 12 people.
To 12 people. 149
to 12 people. 149 people remain unaccounted
for.
For.
For. That's
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