1 00:00:03,136 --> 00:00:03,670 "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" WITH 2 00:00:03,670 --> 00:00:04,437 SHANNON BREAM IS NEXT. 3 00:00:04,437 --> 00:00:06,740 AND GREG GUTFELD, AND I LOVE 4 00:00:06,740 --> 00:00:07,173 YOU, AMERICA! 5 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:15,882 ♪ ♪ 6 00:00:15,882 --> 00:00:19,252 >> Shannon: HELLO, AND WELCOME 7 00:00:19,252 --> 00:00:19,953 TO "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT," I'M 8 00:00:19,953 --> 00:00:20,620 SHANNON BREAM IN NEW YORK. 9 00:00:20,620 --> 00:00:24,524 ♪ ♪ 10 00:00:24,524 --> 00:00:27,027 BREAKING TONIGHT AS DAVE BREAKS 11 00:00:27,027 --> 00:00:28,261 IN KABUL, BRAND-NEW DISTRESSING 12 00:00:28,261 --> 00:00:30,000 VIDEOS SENT TO FOX NEWS SHOWS AT 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,096 VIDEOS SENT TO FOX NEWS SHOWS AT 14 00:00:30,096 --> 00:00:31,264 THE SCENE OUTSIDE THE AIRPORTS 15 00:00:31,264 --> 00:00:33,600 AS A CRUSH OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING 16 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,902 CHILDREN, TRY HELPLESSLY TO GET 17 00:00:35,902 --> 00:00:37,637 INSIDE THE SAFETY, AS SHOTS ARE 18 00:00:37,637 --> 00:00:39,506 HEARD IN THE BACKGROUND AND GAS 19 00:00:39,506 --> 00:00:40,173 IS DEPLOYED. 20 00:00:40,173 --> 00:00:42,275 ALSO BREAKING, THREE U.S. ARMY 21 00:00:42,275 --> 00:00:45,111 HELICOPTERS HAVE RESCUED 169 22 00:00:45,111 --> 00:00:46,613 AMERICANS FROM A HOTEL OUTSIDE 23 00:00:46,613 --> 00:00:48,715 THE AIRPORT IN KABUL. 24 00:00:48,715 --> 00:00:49,682 THIS COMES HOURS AFTER 25 00:00:49,682 --> 00:00:50,283 PRESIDENT BIDEN CLAIMED 26 00:00:50,283 --> 00:00:51,985 AMERICANS WERE NOT HAVING ISSUES 27 00:00:51,985 --> 00:00:54,054 GETTING THROUGH THE TALIBAN 28 00:00:54,054 --> 00:00:54,821 BLOCKADE. 29 00:00:54,821 --> 00:00:56,790 >> WE HAVE NO INDICATION THAT 30 00:00:56,790 --> 00:00:58,458 THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET IN 31 00:00:58,458 --> 00:00:59,692 KABUL THROUGH THE AIRPORT. 32 00:00:59,692 --> 00:01:00,000 WE HAVE MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH 33 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,660 WE HAVE MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH 34 00:01:00,660 --> 00:01:04,097 THE TALIBAN THUS FAR. 35 00:01:04,097 --> 00:01:05,165 >> Shannon: OTHER PARTS OF THE 36 00:01:05,165 --> 00:01:06,066 BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAVE 37 00:01:06,066 --> 00:01:07,734 CONCEDED THAT DOES NOT LINE UP 38 00:01:07,734 --> 00:01:08,835 WITH THE REALITY FOR SOME ON THE 39 00:01:08,835 --> 00:01:10,103 GROUND, AS THE WHITE HOUSE 40 00:01:10,103 --> 00:01:11,538 ADMITS IT IS UNSURE HOW MANY 41 00:01:11,538 --> 00:01:12,605 AMERICANS ARE IN NEED OF 42 00:01:12,605 --> 00:01:15,942 EVACUATION FROM AFGHANISTAN, AND 43 00:01:15,942 --> 00:01:17,677 THE PENTAGON CORRECTS THE 44 00:01:17,677 --> 00:01:18,445 COMMANDER IN CHIEF ON HIS CLAIMS 45 00:01:18,445 --> 00:01:20,380 THAT AL QAEDA IS "GONE," AND THE 46 00:01:20,380 --> 00:01:23,483 U.S. WILL BE ABLE TO MONITOR THE 47 00:01:23,483 --> 00:01:24,751 TERROR THREAT TO AMERICANS FROM 48 00:01:24,751 --> 00:01:25,218 AFAR. 49 00:01:25,218 --> 00:01:26,352 >> LOOK, LET'S PUT THIS THING IN 50 00:01:26,352 --> 00:01:28,822 PERSPECTIVE HERE. 51 00:01:28,822 --> 00:01:30,000 WHAT INTEREST DO WE HAVE IN 52 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,157 WHAT INTEREST DO WE HAVE IN 53 00:01:31,157 --> 00:01:35,061 AFGHANISTAN AT THIS POINT, WITH 54 00:01:35,061 --> 00:01:35,495 AL QAEDA GONE? 55 00:01:35,495 --> 00:01:37,831 >> AL QAEDA IS A PRESENCE, AS 56 00:01:37,831 --> 00:01:38,698 WELL AS ISIS, IN AFGHANISTAN. 57 00:01:38,698 --> 00:01:40,533 AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT 58 00:01:40,533 --> 00:01:42,235 FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 59 00:01:42,235 --> 00:01:43,470 WE DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS 60 00:01:43,470 --> 00:01:44,204 EXORBITANTLY HIGH, BUT WE DON'T 61 00:01:44,204 --> 00:01:46,639 HAVE AN EXACT FIGURE. 62 00:01:46,639 --> 00:01:48,842 >> THE THREAT FROM TERRORISM HAS 63 00:01:48,842 --> 00:01:49,476 METASTASIZED. 64 00:01:49,476 --> 00:01:50,677 THERE'S A GREATER DANGER FROM 65 00:01:50,677 --> 00:01:54,080 ISIS AND AL QAEDA AND ALL THESE 66 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,782 AFFILIATES IN OTHER COUNTRIES, 67 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:57,217 BY FAR, THEN THERE IS FROM 68 00:01:57,217 --> 00:01:57,617 AFGHANISTAN. 69 00:01:57,617 --> 00:02:00,000 AND WE ARE GOING TO RETAIN THE 70 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,287 AND WE ARE GOING TO RETAIN THE 71 00:02:01,287 --> 00:02:02,055 RISING CAPABILITY THAT THEY WERE 72 00:02:02,055 --> 00:02:05,825 GOING TO COME BACK TO BE ABLE T, 73 00:02:05,825 --> 00:02:06,659 SURGICALLY REMOVED. 74 00:02:06,659 --> 00:02:09,829 >> OUR ABILITY, OUR INTELLIGENCE 75 00:02:09,829 --> 00:02:10,563 GATHERING ABILITY IN AFGHANISTAN 76 00:02:10,563 --> 00:02:11,631 ISN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE BECAUSE 77 00:02:11,631 --> 00:02:13,700 WE AREN'T THERE, WITH THE SAME 78 00:02:13,700 --> 00:02:15,735 NUMBERS THAT WE USED TO BE. 79 00:02:15,735 --> 00:02:16,736 >> Shannon: PRESIDENT BIDEN 80 00:02:16,736 --> 00:02:18,671 ALSO PUSHING BACK AGAINST CLAIMS 81 00:02:18,671 --> 00:02:19,739 THAT AMERICA'S CREDIBILITY HAS 82 00:02:19,739 --> 00:02:21,674 BEEN DIMINISHED. 83 00:02:21,674 --> 00:02:22,642 JUST DAYS AFTER BRITISH 84 00:02:22,642 --> 00:02:23,510 PRIME MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON 85 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:26,212 ADMITTED THE U.S. PULLOUT LEFT 86 00:02:26,212 --> 00:02:27,280 U.K. AND NATO FORCES WITH NO 87 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,916 CHOICE BUT TO DO THE SAME. 88 00:02:29,916 --> 00:02:30,000 LEADING A MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT 89 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:30,917 LEADING A MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT 90 00:02:30,917 --> 00:02:33,820 TO CALL THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF 91 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:34,621 SHAMEFUL. 92 00:02:34,621 --> 00:02:36,422 >> I HAVE SEEN NO QUESTION OF 93 00:02:36,422 --> 00:02:37,190 OUR CREDIBILITY FROM OUR ALLIES 94 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:38,024 AROUND THE WORLD TO. 95 00:02:38,024 --> 00:02:40,159 THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, I 96 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:41,261 HAVE NOT SEEN THAT. 97 00:02:41,261 --> 00:02:43,329 MATTER OF FACT, THE EXACT 98 00:02:43,329 --> 00:02:44,097 OPPOSITE. 99 00:02:44,097 --> 00:02:45,331 >> Shannon: ALL THIS JUST A 100 00:02:45,331 --> 00:02:46,633 DAY AFTER THE E.U. FOREIGN 101 00:02:46,633 --> 00:02:48,601 POLICY CHIEF CALLED THE FALL OF 102 00:02:48,601 --> 00:02:50,803 TO A CATASTROPHE A NIGHTMARE. 103 00:02:50,803 --> 00:02:51,638 ADDING THAT IT EXPOSED A FAILURE 104 00:02:51,638 --> 00:02:55,875 OF INTELLIGENCE IN TRANSATLANTIC 105 00:02:55,875 --> 00:02:56,676 COOPERATION. 106 00:02:56,676 --> 00:02:58,411 MEANWHILE, ON THE GROUND IN 107 00:02:58,411 --> 00:02:59,179 KABUL, HARROWING IMAGES SHOW THE 108 00:02:59,179 --> 00:03:00,000 DESPERATION THAT LED TO THIS 109 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:00,613 DESPERATION THAT LED TO THIS 110 00:03:00,613 --> 00:03:01,414 MOMENT, WHEN A U.S. MARINE 111 00:03:01,414 --> 00:03:04,117 LIFTED AFGHAN BABY OVER A BARBED 112 00:03:04,117 --> 00:03:06,419 WIRE WALL TO SAFETY. 113 00:03:06,419 --> 00:03:08,154 THERE ARE REPORTS TONIGHT THAT 114 00:03:08,154 --> 00:03:09,055 THE TALIBAN ARE GOING DOOR TO 115 00:03:09,055 --> 00:03:11,658 DOOR AND MORE IN THEIR SEARCH 116 00:03:11,658 --> 00:03:13,293 FOR U.S. ALLIES. 117 00:03:13,293 --> 00:03:13,993 CORRESPONDENT BENJAMIN HALL 118 00:03:13,993 --> 00:03:16,162 REPORTS TONIGHT FROM LONDON. 119 00:03:16,162 --> 00:03:19,899 >> THE KABUL AIRPORT IS TOTALLY 120 00:03:19,899 --> 00:03:21,868 SURROUNDED. 121 00:03:21,868 --> 00:03:22,635 THOUSANDS OF DESPERATE PEOPLE 122 00:03:22,635 --> 00:03:24,237 ARE BEGGING TO GET IN AND 123 00:03:24,237 --> 00:03:26,573 BEGGING FOR HELP, BUT IT IS 124 00:03:26,573 --> 00:03:27,206 OVERWHELMED. 125 00:03:27,206 --> 00:03:28,541 >> YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A LOT OF 126 00:03:28,541 --> 00:03:30,000 PEOPLE HERE. 127 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,811 PEOPLE HERE. 128 00:03:31,811 --> 00:03:33,212 WE NEED -- WE NEED SUPPORT, WE 129 00:03:33,212 --> 00:03:39,686 ALL NEED SUPPORT. 130 00:03:39,686 --> 00:03:40,887 THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD DESERVE 131 00:03:40,887 --> 00:03:43,723 AFTER SERVING FOR A WHILE. 132 00:03:43,723 --> 00:03:46,626 I'M CALLING ON EVERYONE. 133 00:03:46,626 --> 00:03:47,594 I'M BLEEDING ALL OVER. 134 00:03:47,594 --> 00:03:49,095 >> ALL THE WHILE, THE TALIBAN 135 00:03:49,095 --> 00:03:51,097 ARE STRENGTHENING THEIR'S GRIP 136 00:03:51,097 --> 00:03:51,564 ON THE CITY. 137 00:03:51,564 --> 00:03:53,466 MORE CHECKPOINTS ARE BEING 138 00:03:53,466 --> 00:03:54,133 REPORTED, MORE DOOR-TO-DOOR 139 00:03:54,133 --> 00:03:56,569 SEARCHES FOR PEOPLE WHO WORKED 140 00:03:56,569 --> 00:03:57,236 FOR THE AMERICANS. 141 00:03:57,236 --> 00:04:00,000 REPORTS SOME HAVE BEEN HANGED 142 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,306 REPORTS SOME HAVE BEEN HANGED 143 00:04:00,306 --> 00:04:01,007 AND FEAR IS GROWING. 144 00:04:01,007 --> 00:04:02,909 >> I SERVED MY LIFE, OVER TEN 145 00:04:02,909 --> 00:04:05,311 YEARS, OVER A DECADE, I SERVED 146 00:04:05,311 --> 00:04:07,380 WITH THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. 147 00:04:07,380 --> 00:04:10,049 NOW, WHAT HAPPENS TO MY FAMILY? 148 00:04:10,049 --> 00:04:11,784 I SERVED BASICALLY ONE-THIRD OF 149 00:04:11,784 --> 00:04:13,219 MY LIFE WITH THE U.S. 150 00:04:13,219 --> 00:04:14,520 GOVERNMENT, AND NOW I AM NOT 151 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,422 EVEN ABLE TO SAVE MY OWN FAMILY, 152 00:04:16,422 --> 00:04:17,557 MY OWN BLOOD. 153 00:04:17,557 --> 00:04:19,425 >> FOR NOW, THE U.S. IS STILL 154 00:04:19,425 --> 00:04:20,426 RELYING ON THE TALIBAN TO 155 00:04:20,426 --> 00:04:22,629 PROVIDE SAFE PASSAGE TO THE 156 00:04:22,629 --> 00:04:24,030 AIRPORT. 157 00:04:24,030 --> 00:04:26,232 BUT WITH NO IDEA HOW MANY 158 00:04:26,232 --> 00:04:26,899 AMERICANS ARE LEFT IN 159 00:04:26,899 --> 00:04:28,434 AFGHANISTAN, NO IDEA HOW LONG 160 00:04:28,434 --> 00:04:30,000 THE DEAL WITH THE TALIBAN WILL 161 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:30,303 THE DEAL WITH THE TALIBAN WILL 162 00:04:30,303 --> 00:04:32,705 LAST, THINGS ARE LOOKING BLEAK. 163 00:04:32,705 --> 00:04:38,878 >> THE TALIBAN WILL KILL YOU 164 00:04:38,878 --> 00:04:42,949 BECAUSE YOU ARE A WOMAN AND 165 00:04:42,949 --> 00:04:45,785 WORKING ON TV. 166 00:04:45,785 --> 00:04:47,720 >> OUTSIDE KABUL, THERE IS MORE 167 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,822 TOTALITY AND OPPRESSION. 168 00:04:49,822 --> 00:04:51,257 REPORTS INDICATE THE MILITANTS 169 00:04:51,257 --> 00:04:52,158 ARE SUMMARILY EXECUTING PEOPLE 170 00:04:52,158 --> 00:04:53,726 WHO HELPED U.S. FORCES, BUT 171 00:04:53,726 --> 00:04:55,862 DESPITE THIS, A REMARKABLE 172 00:04:55,862 --> 00:04:58,498 SCENE, BRAVE AFGHANS IN SEVERAL 173 00:04:58,498 --> 00:04:59,198 CITIES STILL DEFIANTLY CARRIED 174 00:04:59,198 --> 00:05:00,000 AFGHAN FLAG THROUGH THE STREETS. 175 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,467 AFGHAN FLAG THROUGH THE STREETS. 176 00:05:01,467 --> 00:05:02,635 THE TALIBAN OPEN FIRE AND KILLED 177 00:05:02,635 --> 00:05:05,638 SOME OF THEM, TOO. 178 00:05:05,638 --> 00:05:06,706 THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE LOOKING 179 00:05:06,706 --> 00:05:08,708 TO THE U.S. FOR HELP RIGHT NOW, 180 00:05:08,708 --> 00:05:09,976 LOOKING FOR HELP IN GETTING OUT. 181 00:05:09,976 --> 00:05:11,177 THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE WE HAVE 182 00:05:11,177 --> 00:05:12,645 SPOKEN TO WHO ARE RESIGNED TO 183 00:05:12,645 --> 00:05:13,346 THEIR FATE. 184 00:05:13,346 --> 00:05:14,180 NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT THE 185 00:05:14,180 --> 00:05:16,249 FUTURE THERE WILL LOOK LIKE. 186 00:05:16,249 --> 00:05:17,650 NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE NEXT FEW 187 00:05:17,650 --> 00:05:19,218 DAYS WILL LOOK LIKE. 188 00:05:19,218 --> 00:05:19,552 SHANNON? 189 00:05:19,552 --> 00:05:20,119 >> Shannon: BENJAMIN, 190 00:05:20,119 --> 00:05:21,487 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 191 00:05:21,487 --> 00:05:24,223 AS THE U.S. SCRAMBLES TO 192 00:05:24,223 --> 00:05:25,425 EVACUATE AMERICANS AND AFGHANS 193 00:05:25,425 --> 00:05:27,860 WHO DIRECTLY ASSISTED US OUT OF 194 00:05:27,860 --> 00:05:28,561 AFGHANISTAN, COMMUNITIES HERE 195 00:05:28,561 --> 00:05:30,000 ARE AT HOME ARE PREPARING TO 196 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:30,063 ARE AT HOME ARE PREPARING TO 197 00:05:30,063 --> 00:05:32,298 RESETTLE UP TO 30,000 OF 198 00:05:32,298 --> 00:05:33,466 THOSE AFGHANS WHO HELPED OUR 199 00:05:33,466 --> 00:05:35,068 SOLDIERS AND ARE FORTUNATE 200 00:05:35,068 --> 00:05:37,036 ENOUGH TO ESCAPE THE TALIBAN. 201 00:05:37,036 --> 00:05:38,471 HUNDREDS OF THEM WILL WIND UP 202 00:05:38,471 --> 00:05:40,440 INITIALLY IN TEXAS, WHERE SENIOR 203 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,174 CORRESPONDENT CASEY STEGALL 204 00:05:41,174 --> 00:05:43,543 PICKS UP A STORY FOR US TONIGHT. 205 00:05:43,543 --> 00:05:44,677 GOOD EVENING, CASEY. 206 00:05:44,677 --> 00:05:47,180 >> SHANNON, ON FRIDAY, THE 207 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:47,780 PENTAGON SAYS IT IS NOW 208 00:05:47,780 --> 00:05:50,450 PREPARING TO HOW WAS UP TO 209 00:05:50,450 --> 00:05:53,586 22,000 AFGHAN REFUGEES HERE IN 210 00:05:53,586 --> 00:05:55,088 THE UNITED STATES AND, 211 00:05:55,088 --> 00:05:58,024 SPECIFICALLY, FOR NOW, AT THREE 212 00:05:58,024 --> 00:05:58,825 DIFFERENT MILITARY 213 00:05:58,825 --> 00:05:59,459 INSTALLATIONS. 214 00:05:59,459 --> 00:06:00,000 FORT BLISS, WHICH IS LOCATED IN 215 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,894 FORT BLISS, WHICH IS LOCATED IN 216 00:06:01,894 --> 00:06:04,230 EL PASO, THESE SITES WILL BE COD 217 00:06:04,230 --> 00:06:05,331 INTO TEMPORARY HOUSING UNITS, 218 00:06:05,331 --> 00:06:07,300 MUCH LIKE WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE 219 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,035 WITH MIGRANTS ALONG THE SOUTHERN 220 00:06:09,035 --> 00:06:10,269 BORDER. 221 00:06:10,269 --> 00:06:11,804 FORT McCOY IS THE SECOND, 222 00:06:11,804 --> 00:06:12,672 THAT'S IN WISCONSIN. 223 00:06:12,672 --> 00:06:14,707 IT STANDS READY TO TAKE IN 224 00:06:14,707 --> 00:06:16,909 REFUGEES, THOSE LUCKY ENOUGH TO 225 00:06:16,909 --> 00:06:18,878 HAVE MADE IT OUT OF THE WAR TORN 226 00:06:18,878 --> 00:06:20,446 COUNTRY. 227 00:06:20,446 --> 00:06:22,048 IN ALL, 19 DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES 228 00:06:22,048 --> 00:06:24,083 AROUND THE COUNTRY WILL TAKE 229 00:06:24,083 --> 00:06:26,686 PEOPLE IN UNDER SPECIAL VISAS, 230 00:06:26,686 --> 00:06:28,654 WITH THOUSANDS OF CHARITY 231 00:06:28,654 --> 00:06:30,000 ORGANIZATIONS HELPING TO WORK 232 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:30,289 ORGANIZATIONS HELPING TO WORK 233 00:06:30,289 --> 00:06:31,424 OUT THE LOGISTICS AND FUNDING. 234 00:06:31,424 --> 00:06:32,625 >> PEOPLE GO BACK AND FORTH OF 235 00:06:32,625 --> 00:06:34,360 WHOSE FAULT THIS IS, AND WE'VE 236 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,863 GOT 20 YEARS OF BLAME TO GO 237 00:06:36,863 --> 00:06:37,997 AROUND FOR OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY 238 00:06:37,997 --> 00:06:39,499 AND THE CITIZENRY OF IT OF WHAT 239 00:06:39,499 --> 00:06:41,567 HAPPENED IN AFGHANISTAN. 240 00:06:41,567 --> 00:06:43,202 SO RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO FIGURE 241 00:06:43,202 --> 00:06:44,737 OUT HOW TO GET PEOPLE OUT. 242 00:06:44,737 --> 00:06:47,373 >> HUNDREDS BEGAN ARRIVING 243 00:06:47,373 --> 00:06:49,041 EARLIER THIS WEEK IN THE 244 00:06:49,041 --> 00:06:50,443 WASHINGTON, D.C., AREA VIRGINIA, 245 00:06:50,443 --> 00:06:52,078 MARYLAND, ON DIRECT FLIGHTS FROM 246 00:06:52,078 --> 00:06:54,447 KABUL, FORT LEE IN VIRGINIA IS E 247 00:06:54,447 --> 00:06:56,382 THIRD THAT WILL TAKE PEOPLE IN. 248 00:06:56,382 --> 00:06:58,151 AUTHORITIES SAY THAT MANY OF 249 00:06:58,151 --> 00:07:00,000 THESE REFUGEES WORKED AS 250 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:00,119 THESE REFUGEES WORKED AS 251 00:07:00,119 --> 00:07:02,688 CONTRACTORS AND ASSISTED THE 252 00:07:02,688 --> 00:07:04,924 U.S. MILITARY ON THE GROUND IN 253 00:07:04,924 --> 00:07:05,591 AFGHANISTAN. 254 00:07:05,591 --> 00:07:07,226 SO TAKING CARE OF THEM, OF 255 00:07:07,226 --> 00:07:09,295 COURSE, IS VERY IMPORTANT. 256 00:07:09,295 --> 00:07:10,530 STILL UNKNOWN, THE COST OF ALL 257 00:07:10,530 --> 00:07:11,063 OF THIS. 258 00:07:11,063 --> 00:07:12,465 AS WE SAID, RIGHT NOW, MANY 259 00:07:12,465 --> 00:07:16,002 DIFFERENT CHARITABLE GROUPS ARE 260 00:07:16,002 --> 00:07:16,869 STEPPING UP. 261 00:07:16,869 --> 00:07:17,203 SHANNON? 262 00:07:17,203 --> 00:07:18,304 >> Shannon: YEAH, CASEY, 263 00:07:18,304 --> 00:07:19,839 GRATEFUL FOR THEM. 264 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:21,240 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 265 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,575 PRESIDENT BIDEN FACING A 266 00:07:22,575 --> 00:07:23,676 FIRESTORM OF CRITICISM FROM BOTH 267 00:07:23,676 --> 00:07:24,343 SIDES OF THE AISLE TONIGHT 268 00:07:24,343 --> 00:07:27,847 FOLLOWING HIS REMARKS FRIDAY 269 00:07:27,847 --> 00:07:28,214 AFTERNOON. 270 00:07:28,214 --> 00:07:29,048 WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT 271 00:07:29,048 --> 00:07:30,000 KEVIN CORKE IS BREAKING DOWN THE 272 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:30,149 KEVIN CORKE IS BREAKING DOWN THE 273 00:07:30,149 --> 00:07:31,784 ONGOING POLITICAL FALLOUT 274 00:07:31,784 --> 00:07:33,452 TONIGHT AS IT GROWS. 275 00:07:33,452 --> 00:07:34,287 GOOD EVENING, KEVIN. 276 00:07:34,287 --> 00:07:35,521 >> GROWING INDEED. 277 00:07:35,521 --> 00:07:37,256 GOOD EVENING, SHANNON. 278 00:07:37,256 --> 00:07:39,325 IT COULD SHOULD COME AS NO 279 00:07:39,325 --> 00:07:40,426 SURPRISE THAT REPUBLICANS IN 280 00:07:40,426 --> 00:07:41,427 WASHINGTON ARE SHARPENING THEIR 281 00:07:41,427 --> 00:07:42,428 POLITICAL KNIVES AS THE 282 00:07:42,428 --> 00:07:43,830 PRESIDENT, THEY SAY, STUMBLES 283 00:07:43,830 --> 00:07:46,232 HIS WAY THROUGH A COMPLETELY 284 00:07:46,232 --> 00:07:47,066 AVOIDABLE TRAGEDY IN 285 00:07:47,066 --> 00:07:47,867 AFGHANISTAN. 286 00:07:47,867 --> 00:07:49,902 BUT NOW, EVEN SOME SENIOR 287 00:07:49,902 --> 00:07:52,104 DEMOCRATS ARE POINTING FINGERS, 288 00:07:52,104 --> 00:07:53,206 CALLING THE BIDEN EXIT STRATEGY 289 00:07:53,206 --> 00:07:54,607 A CATASTROPHE AND ACCUSING HIM 290 00:07:54,607 --> 00:07:57,443 OF NEGLIGENCE. 291 00:07:57,443 --> 00:07:59,445 >> IF WE LEAVE ONE AMERICAN 292 00:07:59,445 --> 00:08:00,000 BEHIND, IF WE DON'T GET ALL 293 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:00,813 BEHIND, IF WE DON'T GET ALL 294 00:08:00,813 --> 00:08:02,815 THOSE AFGHANISTAN -- AFGHANS WHO 295 00:08:02,815 --> 00:08:03,783 STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND 296 00:08:03,783 --> 00:08:05,651 HELPED US OUT, THEN JOE BIDEN, 297 00:08:05,651 --> 00:08:07,386 IN MY VIEW, HAS COMMITTED A HIGH 298 00:08:07,386 --> 00:08:09,488 CRIME AND MISDEMEANOR UNDER THE 299 00:08:09,488 --> 00:08:11,524 CONSTITUTION AND SHOULD BE 300 00:08:11,524 --> 00:08:11,991 IMPEACHED. 301 00:08:11,991 --> 00:08:14,760 >> IMPEACHED, THAT IS THE THREAT 302 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,129 FROM SOUTH CAROLINA G.O.P. 303 00:08:17,129 --> 00:08:17,730 SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM, 304 00:08:17,730 --> 00:08:19,432 FOLLOWING THE INEXPLICABLE 305 00:08:19,432 --> 00:08:21,667 DEBACLE CONTINUING TO UNFOLD IN 306 00:08:21,667 --> 00:08:23,402 AFGHANISTAN. 307 00:08:23,402 --> 00:08:25,271 SPARKED, HE SAYS, BY THE BIDEN 308 00:08:25,271 --> 00:08:26,439 ADMINISTRATION'S POORLY PLANNED 309 00:08:26,439 --> 00:08:28,641 EXIT STRATEGY FROM THE WAR-TORN 310 00:08:28,641 --> 00:08:28,975 COUNTRY. 311 00:08:28,975 --> 00:08:30,000 AND GRAHAM IS NOT ALONE IN 312 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,143 AND GRAHAM IS NOT ALONE IN 313 00:08:31,143 --> 00:08:32,378 WANTING TO RAISE THE POLITICAL 314 00:08:32,378 --> 00:08:34,447 STAKES COME AS A GROWING LIST OF 315 00:08:34,447 --> 00:08:35,781 REPUBLICANS ARE NOW ADDING THEIR 316 00:08:35,781 --> 00:08:37,416 VOICES TO THE CHORUS OF 317 00:08:37,416 --> 00:08:38,618 CRITICISM, BELIEVING THAT WHAT 318 00:08:38,618 --> 00:08:41,387 BIDEN HAS DONE IS WORTHY OF THE 319 00:08:41,387 --> 00:08:43,222 ULTIMATE POLITICAL SANCTION, IF 320 00:08:43,222 --> 00:08:44,190 NOT OUTRIGHT REMOVAL FROM 321 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:44,524 OFFICE. 322 00:08:44,524 --> 00:08:46,459 ON THE HOUSE SIDE OF THE 323 00:08:46,459 --> 00:08:48,394 CAPITAL, THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS 324 00:08:48,394 --> 00:08:49,929 COMMITTEE IS SHARPENING ITS GAZE 325 00:08:49,929 --> 00:08:50,696 UPON SECRETARY OF STATE ANTONY 326 00:08:50,696 --> 00:08:52,164 BLINKEN, WRITING TO CONDEMN IN 327 00:08:52,164 --> 00:08:55,101 THE STRONGEST TERMS THE 328 00:08:55,101 --> 00:08:58,070 DEPARTMENT'S SENIOR LEADERSHIP S 329 00:08:58,070 --> 00:08:59,038 DERELICTION OF DUTY REGARDING 330 00:08:59,038 --> 00:08:59,472 AFGHANISTAN. 331 00:08:59,472 --> 00:09:00,000 UNDER YOUR DIRECTION, THE LETTER 332 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,241 UNDER YOUR DIRECTION, THE LETTER 333 00:09:02,241 --> 00:09:04,010 CONTINUES, CONTINGENCY PLANNING 334 00:09:04,010 --> 00:09:05,311 BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN 335 00:09:05,311 --> 00:09:07,346 WOEFULLY INADEQUATE, AND NOW, WE 336 00:09:07,346 --> 00:09:09,682 ARE SEEING THE TRAGIC RESULTS. 337 00:09:09,682 --> 00:09:10,850 WORSE YET FOR THE 338 00:09:10,850 --> 00:09:11,851 ADMINISTRATION, IT IS NOT JUST 339 00:09:11,851 --> 00:09:14,053 REPUBLICANS WHO ARE SOUNDING THE 340 00:09:14,053 --> 00:09:14,353 ALARM. 341 00:09:14,353 --> 00:09:16,222 NEW JERSEY DEMOCRAT 342 00:09:16,222 --> 00:09:18,457 SENATOR BOB MENENDEZ SAYS HE IS 343 00:09:18,457 --> 00:09:19,859 DISAPPOINTED THAT THE BIDEN 344 00:09:19,859 --> 00:09:20,660 ADMINISTRATION CLEARLY DID NOT 345 00:09:20,660 --> 00:09:22,662 ACCURATELY ASSESS THE 346 00:09:22,662 --> 00:09:23,596 IMPLICATIONS OF A RAPID U.S. 347 00:09:23,596 --> 00:09:24,397 WITHDRAWAL. 348 00:09:24,397 --> 00:09:25,498 CONGRESSMAN JIM LANDON BENNETT 349 00:09:25,498 --> 00:09:26,566 OF RHODE ISLAND, WHO HAS SERVED 350 00:09:26,566 --> 00:09:27,700 ON THE HOUSE ARMED SERVICES 351 00:09:27,700 --> 00:09:29,101 COMMITTEE SINCE THE WAR 352 00:09:29,101 --> 00:09:30,000 BEGAN IN 2001, ACCUSED THE BIDEN 353 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,104 BEGAN IN 2001, ACCUSED THE BIDEN 354 00:09:32,104 --> 00:09:33,472 ADMINISTRATION OF NEGLIGENCE, IN 355 00:09:33,472 --> 00:09:36,208 AN OP-ED IN FOREIGN POLICY 356 00:09:36,208 --> 00:09:37,810 MAGAZINE, WRITING, "THE 357 00:09:37,810 --> 00:09:38,477 CONSEQUENCES OF OUR DECISION 358 00:09:38,477 --> 00:09:40,446 TO ABANDON AFGHANISTAN ARE NOW 359 00:09:40,446 --> 00:09:42,214 ON FULL DISPLAY FOR THE WORLD TO 360 00:09:42,214 --> 00:09:42,648 SEE. 361 00:09:42,648 --> 00:09:46,619 IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY." 362 00:09:46,619 --> 00:09:48,621 POINTED CALL THEM, INDEED. 363 00:09:48,621 --> 00:09:49,722 NOW THE HOST FOREIGN RELATIONS 364 00:09:49,722 --> 00:09:51,657 COMMITTEE IS ALSO DEMANDING TO 365 00:09:51,657 --> 00:09:52,358 ANSWERS FROM SECRETARY BLINKEN 366 00:09:52,358 --> 00:09:55,027 AND DEFENSE SECRETARY AUSTIN. 367 00:09:55,027 --> 00:09:55,795 THEY ARE REQUESTING RESPONSES TO 368 00:09:55,795 --> 00:09:59,265 A SERIES OF QUERIES BY 369 00:09:59,265 --> 00:10:00,000 SEPTEMBER THE 3RD. 370 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,466 SEPTEMBER THE 3RD. 371 00:10:00,466 --> 00:10:01,734 MEANWHILE, WE FINALLY SAW 372 00:10:01,734 --> 00:10:02,835 VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS 373 00:10:02,835 --> 00:10:03,903 TODAY, STANDING NEXT TO HER BOSS 374 00:10:03,903 --> 00:10:05,237 FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE 375 00:10:05,237 --> 00:10:07,139 CRISIS BEGAN, AND WHILE SHE 376 00:10:07,139 --> 00:10:08,674 DIDN'T SAY A WORD ABOUT THE 377 00:10:08,674 --> 00:10:10,076 SITUATION IN AFGHANISTAN THEN, 378 00:10:10,076 --> 00:10:12,011 TONIGHT AT A STOPOVER IN ALASKA 379 00:10:12,011 --> 00:10:14,780 EN ROUTE TO VIETNAM AND 380 00:10:14,780 --> 00:10:17,416 SINGAPORE, SHE OFFERED THIS. 381 00:10:17,416 --> 00:10:19,285 >> WE COULDN'T HAVE A HIGHER 382 00:10:19,285 --> 00:10:21,354 PRIORITY RIGHT NOW, AND IN 383 00:10:21,354 --> 00:10:23,422 PARTICULAR, MY PRIORITY IS 384 00:10:23,422 --> 00:10:24,857 MAKING SURE THAT WE SAFELY 385 00:10:24,857 --> 00:10:27,727 EVACUATE AMERICAN CITIZENS, 386 00:10:27,727 --> 00:10:29,895 AFGHANS WHO WORKED WITH US, 387 00:10:29,895 --> 00:10:30,000 AFGHANS AT RISK, INCLUDING WOMEN 388 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,896 AFGHANS AT RISK, INCLUDING WOMEN 389 00:10:30,896 --> 00:10:34,367 AND CHILDREN, AND THAT IS ONE OF 390 00:10:34,367 --> 00:10:36,769 OUR HIGHEST, IF NOT THE HIGHEST 391 00:10:36,769 --> 00:10:38,471 PRIORITY RIGHT NOW, AND A BIG 392 00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:40,206 AREA OF FOCUS FOR ME. 393 00:10:40,206 --> 00:10:41,941 >> VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS 394 00:10:41,941 --> 00:10:43,042 SPEAKING THERE AT ELMENDORF. 395 00:10:43,042 --> 00:10:44,910 NOW THIS IS A CRISIS THE 396 00:10:44,910 --> 00:10:46,078 ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES TO 397 00:10:46,078 --> 00:10:48,214 STRUGGLE TO SOLVE, AND AS THOSE 398 00:10:48,214 --> 00:10:49,382 PICTURES PROBABLY TELL YOU, A 399 00:10:49,382 --> 00:10:50,649 VICE PRESIDENT INCREASINGLY 400 00:10:50,649 --> 00:10:51,350 LOOKING LIKE SOMEONE WHO WOULD 401 00:10:51,350 --> 00:10:53,452 LIKE TO STEER CLEAR OF THE 402 00:10:53,452 --> 00:10:53,953 FALLOUT, SHANNON. 403 00:10:53,953 --> 00:10:55,521 >> Shannon: WELL, SHE HAS THAT 404 00:10:55,521 --> 00:10:56,822 TRIP AHEAD, AND THE OPTICS OF 405 00:10:56,822 --> 00:10:58,290 BEING IN VIETNAM AT THIS POINT, 406 00:10:58,290 --> 00:10:59,592 SOME ARE QUESTIONING THE WISDOM 407 00:10:59,592 --> 00:11:00,000 OF THAT, BUT NO CHANGES WE ARE 408 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,227 OF THAT, BUT NO CHANGES WE ARE 409 00:11:01,227 --> 00:11:01,994 TOLD OF HER PLAN. 410 00:11:01,994 --> 00:11:03,129 WE WILL SEE YOU IN JUST A MINUTE 411 00:11:03,129 --> 00:11:05,531 OR SO MUCH BETTER NEWS, KEVIN. 412 00:11:05,531 --> 00:11:06,332 >> INDEED. 413 00:11:06,332 --> 00:11:06,766 SEE YOU SOON. 414 00:11:06,766 --> 00:11:07,933 >> Shannon: THANK YOU SO MUCH. 415 00:11:07,933 --> 00:11:09,201 LET'S GET SOME PERSPECTIVE ON 416 00:11:09,201 --> 00:11:10,136 WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT AND THIS 417 00:11:10,136 --> 00:11:12,138 CRISIS FROM A FORMER NAVY SEAL 418 00:11:12,138 --> 00:11:15,041 WHO SERVED TWO TOURS IN 419 00:11:15,041 --> 00:11:16,075 AFGHANISTAN, NOW A WISCONSIN 420 00:11:16,075 --> 00:11:18,577 REPUBLICAN, CONGRESSIONAL 421 00:11:18,577 --> 00:11:19,779 CANDIDATE, DERRICK VAN ORDEN, 422 00:11:19,779 --> 00:11:22,548 AND FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR PASTOR 423 00:11:22,548 --> 00:11:23,282 ROBERT JEFFRESS, THANK YOU BOTH 424 00:11:23,282 --> 00:11:23,916 FOR BEING WITH US. 425 00:11:23,916 --> 00:11:25,584 >> YOU ARE WELCOME. 426 00:11:25,584 --> 00:11:26,786 >> THANK YOU SHANNON. 427 00:11:26,786 --> 00:11:27,753 >> Shannon: START WITH A 428 00:11:27,753 --> 00:11:28,788 DEMOCRATIC MEMBER OF CONGRESS 429 00:11:28,788 --> 00:11:30,000 WAS ALSO A VETERAN, CONGRESSMAN 430 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,857 WAS ALSO A VETERAN, CONGRESSMAN 431 00:11:31,857 --> 00:11:32,458 SETH MOULTON, ABOUT THE 432 00:11:32,458 --> 00:11:33,225 SITUATION ON THE GROUND AND WHAT 433 00:11:33,225 --> 00:11:36,629 WE SENT OUR MILITARY BACK INTO. 434 00:11:36,629 --> 00:11:37,797 >> SO, WHEN THE PRESIDENT AND 435 00:11:37,797 --> 00:11:40,466 THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE CLAIM 436 00:11:40,466 --> 00:11:41,801 THEY ARE GIVING EVERY RESOURCE 437 00:11:41,801 --> 00:11:43,202 NECESSARY AND AVAILABLE TO THIS 438 00:11:43,202 --> 00:11:44,136 EFFORT, THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE, 439 00:11:44,136 --> 00:11:47,173 BECAUSE YOU HAVE MARINE 440 00:11:47,173 --> 00:11:47,940 COMMANDERS ON THE GROUND SAYING 441 00:11:47,940 --> 00:11:48,641 THEY ARE STRETCHED THIN, THEY 442 00:11:48,641 --> 00:11:51,777 NEED MORE TROOPS. 443 00:11:51,777 --> 00:11:52,778 >> Shannon: SO, DERRICK 444 00:11:52,778 --> 00:11:58,017 VAN, HOW YOU KNOW THE SITUATIONE 445 00:11:58,017 --> 00:11:59,018 GROUND, HOW THE TALIBAN OPERATE 446 00:11:59,018 --> 00:12:00,000 AND THINK, THIS IS NOT A 447 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,020 AND THINK, THIS IS NOT A 448 00:12:01,020 --> 00:12:02,621 PARTISAN ISSUE, WE HAVE 449 00:12:02,621 --> 00:12:03,355 CONGRESSMEN ACROSS THE SPECTRUM 450 00:12:03,355 --> 00:12:06,559 SAYING WE NEED TO DO MORE ON TE 451 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:06,992 GROUND. 452 00:12:06,992 --> 00:12:08,060 WHAT DO WE DO NOW? 453 00:12:08,060 --> 00:12:09,729 >> THEY MAY BE EQUIPPING THE 454 00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:10,496 TROOPS WITH EVERYTHING THEY NEED 455 00:12:10,496 --> 00:12:11,697 BUT ONE THING THEY WILL NOT BE 456 00:12:11,697 --> 00:12:13,799 ABLE TO EQUIP THEM WITH IS 457 00:12:13,799 --> 00:12:14,633 LEADERSHIP. 458 00:12:14,633 --> 00:12:15,901 THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS 459 00:12:15,901 --> 00:12:17,069 ABJECTLY FAILED THE 460 00:12:17,069 --> 00:12:17,736 UNITED STATES MILITARY, THE 461 00:12:17,736 --> 00:12:20,606 AMERICAN CITIZENS IN AFGHA 462 00:12:20,606 --> 00:12:21,307 AFGHANISTAN, OUR COALITION OF 463 00:12:21,307 --> 00:12:21,974 ALLIES, AND THE FOLKS THAT 464 00:12:21,974 --> 00:12:24,844 WORKED WITH US IN THE CONFLICT 465 00:12:24,844 --> 00:12:27,513 THAT I WAS THEREFORE FOR TWO 466 00:12:27,513 --> 00:12:27,980 DIFFERENT TOURS. 467 00:12:27,980 --> 00:12:30,000 WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW IS BUCKLE 468 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:30,883 WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW IS BUCKLE 469 00:12:30,883 --> 00:12:31,684 DOWN, THE ENTIRE NATIONAL 470 00:12:31,684 --> 00:12:33,385 SECURITY COUNCIL, AS FAR AS I'M 471 00:12:33,385 --> 00:12:34,320 CONCERNED, SHOULD RESIGN, AND WE 472 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,988 NEED TO GET ON WITH THE 473 00:12:35,988 --> 00:12:38,190 BUSINESS, WHICH IS SAVING 474 00:12:38,190 --> 00:12:38,891 AMERICAN LIVES, IMMEDIATELY. 475 00:12:38,891 --> 00:12:40,025 >> Shannon: THAT'S A PRIORITY, 476 00:12:40,025 --> 00:12:40,793 AND AMONG THOSE LIVES, AS WELL 477 00:12:40,793 --> 00:12:43,763 IN AFGHANISTAN, THERE ARE 478 00:12:43,763 --> 00:12:44,163 CHRISTIANS. 479 00:12:44,163 --> 00:12:45,931 NOT MANY OF THEM, BUT THERE IS A 480 00:12:45,931 --> 00:12:46,899 COMMUNITY THERE, AND THIS IS 481 00:12:46,899 --> 00:12:48,601 WHAT WE ARE HEARING ABOUT THEM. 482 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:50,469 WE ARE HEARING FROM RELIABLE 483 00:12:50,469 --> 00:12:51,203 SOURCES THAT THE TALIBAN DEMANDS 484 00:12:51,203 --> 00:12:52,972 PEOPLE'S PHONES, AND IF THEY 485 00:12:52,972 --> 00:12:54,640 FIND A DOWNLOADED BIBLE ON YOUR 486 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,975 DEVICE, THEY WILL KILL YOU 487 00:12:55,975 --> 00:12:56,375 IMMEDIATELY. 488 00:12:56,375 --> 00:13:00,000 THAT WAS SAID -- 489 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:00,613 THAT WAS SAID -- 490 00:13:00,613 --> 00:13:02,014 HE SAYS IT IS INCREDIBLY 491 00:13:02,014 --> 00:13:03,182 DANGEROUS RIGHT NOW FOR AFGHANS 492 00:13:03,182 --> 00:13:04,583 TO HAVE ANYTHING CHRISTIAN ON 493 00:13:04,583 --> 00:13:05,384 THEIR PHONES. 494 00:13:05,384 --> 00:13:06,819 THE TALIBAN HAVE SPIES AND 495 00:13:06,819 --> 00:13:07,820 INFORMANTS EVERYWHERE. 496 00:13:07,820 --> 00:13:08,754 PASTOR, IT IS OVERWHELMING TO 497 00:13:08,754 --> 00:13:10,890 WATCH THIS, AND WE KNOW THERE 498 00:13:10,890 --> 00:13:12,091 ARE PEOPLE FOR MANY REASONS WE 499 00:13:12,091 --> 00:13:14,593 NOW FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES, 500 00:13:14,593 --> 00:13:15,194 INCLUDING THE CHRISTIAN 501 00:13:15,194 --> 00:13:15,694 COMMUNITY THERE. 502 00:13:15,694 --> 00:13:17,229 >> THAT'S RIGHT, SHANNON, AND 503 00:13:17,229 --> 00:13:18,898 LOOK TO HIM AS AN AMERICAN, I 504 00:13:18,898 --> 00:13:20,432 CARE ABOUT EVERY ONE OF OUR 505 00:13:20,432 --> 00:13:22,001 CITIZENS BEING RESCUED, BUT AS A 506 00:13:22,001 --> 00:13:23,569 CHRISTIAN PASTOR, I CARE ABOUT 507 00:13:23,569 --> 00:13:30,000 THE EIGHT OR 9,000 AFGHAN 508 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,811 THE EIGHT OR 9,000 AFGHAN 509 00:13:31,811 --> 00:13:32,444 CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FACING 510 00:13:32,444 --> 00:13:33,145 EXTERMINATION BY THE TALIBAN. 511 00:13:33,145 --> 00:13:33,879 AS YOU MENTIONED, THE TALIBAN'S 512 00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:34,613 GOING GOING DOOR TO DOOR ASKING 513 00:13:34,613 --> 00:13:36,549 SPECIFICALLY IF CHRISTIANS ARE 514 00:13:36,549 --> 00:13:37,116 RESIDING IN THAT HOME. 515 00:13:37,116 --> 00:13:38,450 AND LOOK, I WILL LET THE 516 00:13:38,450 --> 00:13:39,118 GEOPOLITICAL EXPERTS DEBATE 517 00:13:39,118 --> 00:13:40,252 WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD HAVE 518 00:13:40,252 --> 00:13:41,253 STAYED IN AFGHANISTAN OR EVEN 519 00:13:41,253 --> 00:13:42,788 BEEN THERE TO BEGIN WITH, BUT 520 00:13:42,788 --> 00:13:44,390 WHAT I CAN SAY WITH ABSOLUTE 521 00:13:44,390 --> 00:13:46,458 AUTHORITY IS WE HAVE A MORAL 522 00:13:46,458 --> 00:13:47,960 OBLIGATION, NOT ONLY TO RESCUE 523 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,195 OUR CITIZENS, YES, BUT ALSO TO 524 00:13:49,195 --> 00:13:52,998 DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT 525 00:13:52,998 --> 00:13:53,899 THESE AFGHAN CHRISTIANS. 526 00:13:53,899 --> 00:13:55,734 LOOK, I KNOW THAT AMERICA CAN'T 527 00:13:55,734 --> 00:13:57,736 DO EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD, BUT 528 00:13:57,736 --> 00:13:59,572 WE CAN DO SOME THINGS, AND 529 00:13:59,572 --> 00:14:00,000 PROTECTING THE SMALL GROUP OF 530 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,641 PROTECTING THE SMALL GROUP OF 531 00:14:02,641 --> 00:14:04,176 BELIEVERS IS A BASIC VALUE OF 532 00:14:04,176 --> 00:14:05,377 AMERICA, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE 533 00:14:05,377 --> 00:14:06,545 NEED AND SHOULD DO. 534 00:14:06,545 --> 00:14:08,581 >> Shannon: WELL, AND DERRICK, 535 00:14:08,581 --> 00:14:09,448 I'M TALKING WITH MILITARY FOLKS 536 00:14:09,448 --> 00:14:10,216 ON THE GROUND WHO ARE 537 00:14:10,216 --> 00:14:11,116 DESPERATELY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE 538 00:14:11,116 --> 00:14:12,484 OUT. 539 00:14:12,484 --> 00:14:13,686 THEY SAY THEY ARE AWARE OF 540 00:14:13,686 --> 00:14:15,221 ARRANGEMENTS AND IN CONTACT WITH 541 00:14:15,221 --> 00:14:16,755 PEOPLE THAT ARE CIVILIAN 542 00:14:16,755 --> 00:14:17,456 FLIGHTS, PRIVATE FLIGHTS AND 543 00:14:17,456 --> 00:14:18,657 CHARTERS THAT WILL COME IN AND 544 00:14:18,657 --> 00:14:20,259 GET PEOPLE. 545 00:14:20,259 --> 00:14:20,960 THEY CANNOT GET AIR CLEARANCE 546 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,995 FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT. 547 00:14:22,995 --> 00:14:23,929 THEY SAY THE ADMINISTRATION 548 00:14:23,929 --> 00:14:24,597 SEEMS TO BE COMPLETELY 549 00:14:24,597 --> 00:14:26,065 DISORGANIZED ON THIS, BUT THERE 550 00:14:26,065 --> 00:14:27,366 ARE PRIVATE ACTORS WHO WANT TO 551 00:14:27,366 --> 00:14:29,535 GO IN AND HELP AS MUCH AS THEY 552 00:14:29,535 --> 00:14:30,000 POSSIBLY CAN. 553 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:30,102 POSSIBLY CAN. 554 00:14:30,102 --> 00:14:31,971 ANY WAY TO RESOLVE THAT AT THIS 555 00:14:31,971 --> 00:14:32,705 POINT, OTHER THAN PUBLICLY TO 556 00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:34,440 THE STATE DEPARTMENT, WHAT ARE 557 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:35,107 YOU DOING? 558 00:14:35,107 --> 00:14:36,842 >> RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT IS A 559 00:14:36,842 --> 00:14:38,110 SECONDARY PRIORITY. 560 00:14:38,110 --> 00:14:41,981 EVERYTHING THAT JOE BIDEN SAID 561 00:14:41,981 --> 00:14:43,215 IN THAT PRESS CONFERENCE WAS 562 00:14:43,215 --> 00:14:46,485 INACCURATE, MISINFORMED, OR A 563 00:14:46,485 --> 00:14:52,224 LIE. 564 00:14:52,224 --> 00:14:52,958 THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE THAT 565 00:14:52,958 --> 00:14:53,826 AMERICANS ARE BEING BEATEN IN 566 00:14:53,826 --> 00:14:56,161 THE STREET AND THAT WAS ON 567 00:14:56,161 --> 00:14:56,795 ACCEPTABLE. 568 00:14:56,795 --> 00:14:58,497 GETTING THE AIRCRAFT HAS TO BE 569 00:14:58,497 --> 00:14:59,965 SECONDARY PRIORITY, PRIORITY TO 570 00:14:59,965 --> 00:15:00,000 GETTING THE HUMAN BEINGS, THE 571 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,500 GETTING THE HUMAN BEINGS, THE 572 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:02,735 AMERICANS, OUR ALLIES, AND THOSE 573 00:15:02,735 --> 00:15:05,404 THAT WORKED WITH US, ONTO THE 574 00:15:05,404 --> 00:15:06,705 AIRFIELD ITSELF, BECAUSE THAT IS 575 00:15:06,705 --> 00:15:09,408 AT LEAST A PARTIALLY SECURED 576 00:15:09,408 --> 00:15:10,442 SAFE AREA FOR EVERYBODY. 577 00:15:10,442 --> 00:15:11,076 >> Shannon: AND PASTOR, I 578 00:15:11,076 --> 00:15:12,444 WOULD LOVE TO GET A FINAL WORD 579 00:15:12,444 --> 00:15:13,445 FROM YOU ON WHAT YOU SAY TO 580 00:15:13,445 --> 00:15:15,414 PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE REALLY 581 00:15:15,414 --> 00:15:16,615 STRUGGLING WATCHING THESE 582 00:15:16,615 --> 00:15:18,250 IMAGES, FEELING POWERLESS TO 583 00:15:18,250 --> 00:15:19,018 HELP THESE PEOPLE. 584 00:15:19,018 --> 00:15:20,986 WE HAVE COVID RAMPAGING ACROSS 585 00:15:20,986 --> 00:15:22,821 THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD 586 00:15:22,821 --> 00:15:23,222 CONTINUALLY. 587 00:15:23,222 --> 00:15:24,823 PEOPLE ARE REALLY STRUGGLING AND 588 00:15:24,823 --> 00:15:26,892 FEELING PRETTY OVERWHELMED AT 589 00:15:26,892 --> 00:15:27,459 THIS POINT. 590 00:15:27,459 --> 00:15:29,595 >> YEAH, TODAY WE SPONSORED ON 591 00:15:29,595 --> 00:15:30,000 OUR RADIO STATION, A DAY OF HOPE 592 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,130 OUR RADIO STATION, A DAY OF HOPE 593 00:15:31,130 --> 00:15:32,264 FOR THE PEOPLE YOU'RE TALKING 594 00:15:32,264 --> 00:15:34,033 ABOUT WHO ARE STRUGGLING, AND 595 00:15:34,033 --> 00:15:35,501 LOOK, SHANNON, AS CHRISTIANS, WE 596 00:15:35,501 --> 00:15:37,836 DO NOT NEED TO BE FATALISTIC BUT 597 00:15:37,836 --> 00:15:41,040 WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC. 598 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,409 JESUS WAS REALISTIC, HE SAID IN 599 00:15:43,409 --> 00:15:44,643 THE WORLD YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 600 00:15:44,643 --> 00:15:46,278 PESTILENCE -- ANOTHER WORD FOR 601 00:15:46,278 --> 00:15:47,579 PANDEMIC -- AND WARS, THAT IS 602 00:15:47,579 --> 00:15:48,747 THE WORLD AS IT IS, BUT THANK 603 00:15:48,747 --> 00:15:50,582 GOD IT IS NOT THE WORLD AS IT 604 00:15:50,582 --> 00:15:53,252 WILL ALWAYS BE, THE HOPE OF 605 00:15:53,252 --> 00:15:55,587 CHRISTIANITY FOR 2,000 YEARS HAS 606 00:15:55,587 --> 00:15:57,389 BEEN THAT JESUS IS COMING BACK 607 00:15:57,389 --> 00:15:58,390 AGAIN TO RID THIS WORLD ONCE AND 608 00:15:58,390 --> 00:16:00,000 FOR ALL OF EVIL. 609 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:00,759 FOR ALL OF EVIL. 610 00:16:00,759 --> 00:16:02,961 BUT UNTIL THEN, THERE WILL BE NO 611 00:16:02,961 --> 00:16:04,596 LASTING PEACE UNTIL THE 612 00:16:04,596 --> 00:16:05,364 PRINCE OF PEACE HAS COME. 613 00:16:05,364 --> 00:16:07,032 HE IS COMING, SHANNON. 614 00:16:07,032 --> 00:16:09,001 THAT IS THE HOPE OF EVERY AFGHAN 615 00:16:09,001 --> 00:16:10,469 TONIGHT WHO IS A CHRISTIAN, IT'S 616 00:16:10,469 --> 00:16:13,272 THE HOPE OF EVERY CHRISTIAN IN 617 00:16:13,272 --> 00:16:13,772 THE WORLD TONIGHT. 618 00:16:13,772 --> 00:16:15,641 >> Shannon: YEAH, AND PRAYERS 619 00:16:15,641 --> 00:16:16,642 ACROSS ALL KINDS OF 620 00:16:16,642 --> 00:16:17,409 DENOMINATIONAL MINES TONIGHT 621 00:16:17,409 --> 00:16:18,577 WERE PEOPLE THERE IN 622 00:16:18,577 --> 00:16:19,178 AFGHANISTAN. 623 00:16:19,178 --> 00:16:20,079 HE MENTIONED THE EARTHQUAKES, 624 00:16:20,079 --> 00:16:21,280 HAITI, THEY ARE GETTING LOST IN 625 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,114 THE HEADLINES, AND THOSE 626 00:16:22,114 --> 00:16:23,115 SUFFERING AROUND THE WORLD FROM 627 00:16:23,115 --> 00:16:25,351 COVID AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS 628 00:16:25,351 --> 00:16:26,118 AND PERSECUTIONS. 629 00:16:26,118 --> 00:16:27,853 WE SHOULD ALL BE PRAYING FOR 630 00:16:27,853 --> 00:16:29,488 EACH OTHER. 631 00:16:29,488 --> 00:16:30,000 PASTOR, THANK YOU. 632 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:30,255 PASTOR, THANK YOU. 633 00:16:30,255 --> 00:16:31,123 DERRICK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR 634 00:16:31,123 --> 00:16:32,891 SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR 635 00:16:32,891 --> 00:16:33,325 TIME TONIGHT. 636 00:16:33,325 --> 00:16:34,326 >> YES, MA'AM. 637 00:16:34,326 --> 00:16:35,294 >> THANK YOU SHANNON. 638 00:16:35,294 --> 00:16:36,562 >> Shannon: BACK HERE AT HOME, 639 00:16:36,562 --> 00:16:37,496 DOMESTIC CRIME CONCERNS FRONT 640 00:16:37,496 --> 00:16:39,264 AND CENTER TONIGHT AS WE HEAD 641 00:16:39,264 --> 00:16:41,433 INTO ANOTHER HOT SUMMER WEEKEND. 642 00:16:41,433 --> 00:16:42,601 CITY OFFICIALS IN MINNEAPOLIS 643 00:16:42,601 --> 00:16:45,037 TAKE ANOTHER STEP FORWARD IN 644 00:16:45,037 --> 00:16:46,372 THEIR PUSH TO POTENTIALLY 645 00:16:46,372 --> 00:16:47,139 ABOLISH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, 646 00:16:47,139 --> 00:16:49,008 AT LEAST AS THEY KNOW IT NOW. 647 00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:50,209 CORRESPONDENT CHARLES WATSON IS 648 00:16:50,209 --> 00:16:51,944 WORKING TONIGHT'S CRIME BEAT. 649 00:16:51,944 --> 00:16:52,945 GOOD EVENING, CHARLES. 650 00:16:52,945 --> 00:16:54,313 >> HI, SHANNON. 651 00:16:54,313 --> 00:16:55,147 AS CRIME SPIKES AND SOME OF THE 652 00:16:55,147 --> 00:16:57,449 NATION'S LARGEST CITIES, 653 00:16:57,449 --> 00:16:58,650 MINNEAPOLIS TONIGHT IS ONE STEP 654 00:16:58,650 --> 00:17:00,000 CLOSER TO DECIDING WHETHER OR 655 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,587 CLOSER TO DECIDING WHETHER OR 656 00:17:01,587 --> 00:17:02,321 NOT IT WILL ABOLISH THE CITY'S 657 00:17:02,321 --> 00:17:03,989 POLICE DEPARTMENT. 658 00:17:03,989 --> 00:17:06,558 THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL 659 00:17:06,558 --> 00:17:07,192 APPROVING LANGUAGE TO BE 660 00:17:07,192 --> 00:17:09,161 INCLUDED IN A NOVEMBER BALLOT 661 00:17:09,161 --> 00:17:10,696 MEASURE THAT WILL ASK VOTERS TO 662 00:17:10,696 --> 00:17:11,730 DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO REPLACE 663 00:17:11,730 --> 00:17:15,100 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH A NEW 664 00:17:15,100 --> 00:17:16,602 DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, 665 00:17:16,602 --> 00:17:18,203 EVEN AS VIOLENT CRIME SURGES IN 666 00:17:18,203 --> 00:17:18,570 THE CITY. 667 00:17:18,570 --> 00:17:21,774 MAYOR JACOB FREY ATTEMPTED AND 668 00:17:21,774 --> 00:17:23,409 FAILED TO VETO LANGUAGE IN THE 669 00:17:23,409 --> 00:17:24,743 BALLOT MEASURE SAYING IT DIDN'T 670 00:17:24,743 --> 00:17:26,245 GO FAR ENOUGH IN EXPLAINING TO 671 00:17:26,245 --> 00:17:27,780 VOTERS OF THE OF THEIR 672 00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:30,000 DECISIONS, SUCH AS THE REMOVAL 673 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,750 DECISIONS, SUCH AS THE REMOVAL 674 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:32,885 OF MINIMUM POLICE STAFFING 675 00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:33,819 REQUIREMENTS. 676 00:17:33,819 --> 00:17:34,486 PROTESTERS HAVE CALLED ON 677 00:17:34,486 --> 00:17:36,021 LAWMAKERS TO DEFUND THE POLICE 678 00:17:36,021 --> 00:17:37,956 FORCE FOLLOWING THE DEATH OF 679 00:17:37,956 --> 00:17:40,426 GEORGE FLOYD AT THE HANDS OF 680 00:17:40,426 --> 00:17:41,593 CONVICTED FORMER MINNEAPOLIS 681 00:17:41,593 --> 00:17:42,294 POLICE OFFICER DEREK CHAUVIN. 682 00:17:42,294 --> 00:17:43,662 HERE IS WHAT THE MAYOR HAD TO 683 00:17:43,662 --> 00:17:45,564 SAY ABOUT THE ISSUE ON THURSDAY. 684 00:17:45,564 --> 00:17:47,966 >> MY POSITION HAS NOT MOVED AN 685 00:17:47,966 --> 00:17:49,034 INCH. 686 00:17:49,034 --> 00:17:51,370 WE NEED TO ROOT OUT SYSTEMIC 687 00:17:51,370 --> 00:17:52,538 RACISM IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 688 00:17:52,538 --> 00:17:55,374 WE NEED A FULL ON CULTURE SHIFT. 689 00:17:55,374 --> 00:17:56,375 WE NEED ADDITIONAL 690 00:17:56,375 --> 00:17:57,342 ACCOUNTABILITY. 691 00:17:57,342 --> 00:17:58,811 WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO 692 00:17:58,811 --> 00:17:59,678 POLICING SO THAT WE HAVE SAFETY 693 00:17:59,678 --> 00:18:00,000 BEYOND POLICING. 694 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,614 BEYOND POLICING. 695 00:18:02,614 --> 00:18:04,416 BUT TO THE QUESTION AS TO 696 00:18:04,416 --> 00:18:06,018 WHETHER I WAS GOING TO DEFUND 697 00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:08,420 AND GET RID OF POLICE, MY ANSWER 698 00:18:08,420 --> 00:18:08,754 WAS NO. 699 00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:11,023 >> IN THE MEANTIME, 700 00:18:11,023 --> 00:18:11,657 NEW YORK CITY, THE NYPD IS 701 00:18:11,657 --> 00:18:14,526 GRAPPLING WITH AN INCREASE IN CE 702 00:18:14,526 --> 00:18:15,160 OF THEIR OWN. 703 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,395 THE DEPARTMENT SAYING IT IS 704 00:18:16,395 --> 00:18:18,197 LOOKING FOR THESE GUYS CAPTURED 705 00:18:18,197 --> 00:18:20,999 ON VIDEO VIOLENTLY ATTACKING A 706 00:18:20,999 --> 00:18:21,266 MAN. 707 00:18:21,266 --> 00:18:23,202 POLICE SAY AS MANY AS FIVE OF 708 00:18:23,202 --> 00:18:24,970 THE UNKNOWN SUSPECTS ARE SEEN ON 709 00:18:24,970 --> 00:18:25,671 MULTIPLE OCCASIONS THIS MONTH 710 00:18:25,671 --> 00:18:28,240 ATTACKING INNOCENT BYSTANDERS 711 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,641 AND ROBBING THEM OF THEIR 712 00:18:29,641 --> 00:18:30,000 PROPERTY IN QUEENS. 713 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,509 PROPERTY IN QUEENS. 714 00:18:30,509 --> 00:18:32,945 OVER TO CHICAGO, WHERE POLICE 715 00:18:32,945 --> 00:18:33,912 ARE HUNTING DOWN THE PEOPLE 716 00:18:33,912 --> 00:18:35,848 RESPONSIBLE FOR SHOOTING A 717 00:18:35,848 --> 00:18:37,416 9-YEAR-OLD IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. 718 00:18:37,416 --> 00:18:38,951 THE BOY WAS SHOT IN THE FOREARM 719 00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:41,253 AND WAS TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL IN 720 00:18:41,253 --> 00:18:42,488 STABLE CONDITION. 721 00:18:42,488 --> 00:18:44,123 822-YEAR-OLD MAN WAS ALSO SHOT 722 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:44,957 IN THE LEG. 723 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:46,825 HIS CONDITION IS UNKNOWN. 724 00:18:46,825 --> 00:18:49,261 AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE 725 00:18:49,261 --> 00:18:50,729 LATEST INCIDENTS CONTRIBUTING TO 726 00:18:50,729 --> 00:18:51,463 A WAVE OF CRIME IN SOME OF THE 727 00:18:51,463 --> 00:18:53,999 NATION'S BIG CITIES, WHERE 728 00:18:53,999 --> 00:18:55,367 HOMICIDES AND GUN ASSAULTS ON 729 00:18:55,367 --> 00:18:59,605 AVERAGE ARE UP 16% AND 5% 730 00:18:59,605 --> 00:19:00,000 RESPECTIVELY, ACCORDING TO THE 731 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,772 RESPECTIVELY, ACCORDING TO THE 732 00:19:00,772 --> 00:19:01,807 COUNCIL ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE. 733 00:19:01,807 --> 00:19:03,542 AND SHANNON, AMERICANS ARE 734 00:19:03,542 --> 00:19:04,276 WORRIED, ACCORDING TO THE LATEST 735 00:19:04,276 --> 00:19:08,814 FOX NEWS POLL, 81% OF AMERICANS 736 00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:09,781 SAY THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE 737 00:19:09,781 --> 00:19:11,984 VIOLENT CRIME THEY ARE SEEING. 738 00:19:11,984 --> 00:19:12,618 SHANNON, BACK TO YOU. 739 00:19:12,618 --> 00:19:13,952 >> Shannon: CHARLES, THANK YOU 740 00:19:13,952 --> 00:19:15,320 SO MUCH. 741 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,989 ALL RIGHT, REMEMBER THOSE CREEPY 742 00:19:16,989 --> 00:19:17,723 HUMANOID ROBOT THINGIES? 743 00:19:17,723 --> 00:19:18,724 WELL, THEY ARE BACK IN GOING TO 744 00:19:18,724 --> 00:19:20,192 BE A WHOLE LOT MORE ADVANCED 745 00:19:20,192 --> 00:19:21,360 PEER CHECK OUT THAT MODEL. 746 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:22,928 AND THE HAIR-RAISING MOMENT A 747 00:19:22,928 --> 00:19:24,730 MAN TRYING TO MAKE A POT OF 748 00:19:24,730 --> 00:19:25,831 COFFEE COMES FACE-TO-FACE WITH 749 00:19:25,831 --> 00:19:29,668 AN ANGRY LION GROWLING AT HIM. 750 00:19:29,668 --> 00:19:30,000 WE ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT 751 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:36,441 WE ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT 752 00:19:36,441 --> 00:19:39,178 ♪ ♪ 753 00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:40,145 >> Shannon: HAVE YOU GOT 754 00:19:40,145 --> 00:19:40,612 NERVES OF STEEL? 755 00:19:40,612 --> 00:19:42,514 CHECK OUT THIS OPEN TILL THEN, 756 00:19:42,514 --> 00:19:46,418 NO DOORS, WINDOWS HAVE MESH 757 00:19:46,418 --> 00:19:48,053 COVERING, SO NO BIG DEAL IF A 758 00:19:48,053 --> 00:19:49,354 LION IS STANDING OUTSIDE 759 00:19:49,354 --> 00:19:49,855 GROWLING, RIGHT? 760 00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:50,856 ACTUALLY KIND OF A BIG DEAL BUT 761 00:19:50,856 --> 00:19:52,524 ALL IN A DAY'S WORK FOR AN 762 00:19:52,524 --> 00:19:54,026 SOUTH AFRICAN NATURE DIED, HE 763 00:19:54,026 --> 00:19:56,828 KEPT HIS CALM AND EVEN FILM 764 00:19:56,828 --> 00:19:58,363 THE TENSE MOMENT, APPARENTLY THE 765 00:19:58,363 --> 00:20:00,000 LION WAS PURSUING A LADY LION 766 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,099 LION WAS PURSUING A LADY LION 767 00:20:01,099 --> 00:20:03,368 NEARBY, THE LION EVENTUALLY 768 00:20:03,368 --> 00:20:04,436 MOVED ON, GAVE EVERYONE A WHOLE 769 00:20:04,436 --> 00:20:06,838 LOT TO TALK ABOUT OVER BREAKFAST 770 00:20:06,838 --> 00:20:07,806 COME ALL SAFE AND SOUND. 771 00:20:07,806 --> 00:20:10,842 THE GLOVES ARE OFF, IT IS GOING 772 00:20:10,842 --> 00:20:11,410 DOWN. 773 00:20:11,410 --> 00:20:14,580 SCRAPPING ON A RIVERBANK, 774 00:20:14,580 --> 00:20:15,147 SCUFFLE OVER QUICKLY. 775 00:20:15,147 --> 00:20:16,615 YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A THIRD 776 00:20:16,615 --> 00:20:19,818 BUCK STANDING THERE, NOT GETTING 777 00:20:19,818 --> 00:20:21,053 INVOLVED. 778 00:20:21,053 --> 00:20:22,554 NOW THIS. 779 00:20:22,554 --> 00:20:23,121 BREAKING NEWS OUT OF 780 00:20:23,121 --> 00:20:24,990 SILICON VALLEY, ELON MUSK HAS 781 00:20:24,990 --> 00:20:27,059 APPARENTLY NEVER SEEN I ROBOT OR 782 00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:28,293 ANY TERMINATOR MOVIE, BECAUSE 783 00:20:28,293 --> 00:20:30,000 THE TESLA CEO IS UNVEILING PLANS 784 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:30,596 THE TESLA CEO IS UNVEILING PLANS 785 00:20:30,596 --> 00:20:33,765 TO BUILD THIS HUMANOID ROBOT FOR 786 00:20:33,765 --> 00:20:35,400 GENERAL-PURPOSE USE. 787 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,936 I THINK THAT IS A HUMAN BEING. 788 00:20:37,936 --> 00:20:38,737 ANYWAY, GET READY, BECAUSE WE 789 00:20:38,737 --> 00:20:41,039 ALL KNOW HOW THIS SHOW ENDS. 790 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:42,374 THE COMPANY'S AS A PROTOTYPE 791 00:20:42,374 --> 00:20:43,575 MIGHT BE READY IN ABOUT A YEAR. 792 00:20:43,575 --> 00:20:44,810 YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CONVINCE ME 793 00:20:44,810 --> 00:20:46,211 THAT IS NOT A HUMAN. 794 00:20:46,211 --> 00:20:47,846 IF THAT IS A ROBOT, WE ARE IN 795 00:20:47,846 --> 00:20:49,181 BIG TROUBLE, BUT I THINK THAT 796 00:20:49,181 --> 00:20:50,616 WAS JUST A DEMONSTRATION. 797 00:20:50,616 --> 00:20:51,917 K, HAS THIS EVER HAPPENED TO 798 00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:52,684 YOU? 799 00:20:52,684 --> 00:20:54,252 IT IS A HOT SUMMER DAY, JUMP IN 800 00:20:54,252 --> 00:20:55,754 THE CAR COME HUGE MISTAKE, THE 801 00:20:55,754 --> 00:20:57,055 SEATS ARE BASICALLY ON FIRE. 802 00:20:57,055 --> 00:21:00,000 BELINDA FROM TEXAS ADDI 803 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:07,199 BELINDA FROM TEXAS ADDI 804 00:21:07,199 --> 00:21:08,166 MICHAEL JACKSON MOVES. 805 00:21:08,166 --> 00:21:12,638 MOVING ONTO AN ADORABLE DUO, 806 00:21:12,638 --> 00:21:15,407 QUITE AN ONLINE HIT WITH THEIR 807 00:21:15,407 --> 00:21:15,941 PLAYFUL FRIENDSHIP. 808 00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:17,576 THE OWNER SAYS THEY HAVE BEEN 809 00:21:17,576 --> 00:21:18,377 INSEPARABLE SINCE ONE WAS A 810 00:21:18,377 --> 00:21:19,778 LITTLE TINY PUPPY. 811 00:21:19,778 --> 00:21:21,213 THEY ARE ENTERTAINING EACH 812 00:21:21,213 --> 00:21:21,680 OTHER. 813 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,382 SPEAKING OF PUPPIES, GOT ANOTHER 814 00:21:23,382 --> 00:21:24,850 PAIR OF FRIENDS MELTING THE 815 00:21:24,850 --> 00:21:26,618 INTERSECT WITH THEIR BEAUTIFUL 816 00:21:26,618 --> 00:21:27,386 RELATIONSHIP. 817 00:21:27,386 --> 00:21:28,987 A LITTLE DOGGY GETTING A 818 00:21:28,987 --> 00:21:30,000 PIGGYBACK RIDE FROM HIS BIG 819 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,223 PIGGYBACK RIDE FROM HIS BIG 820 00:21:31,223 --> 00:21:32,157 BROTHER. 821 00:21:32,157 --> 00:21:37,195 WE LOVE TO SEE THE FOWL AND 822 00:21:37,195 --> 00:21:37,996 CANINE GET-TOGETHERS HERE. 823 00:21:37,996 --> 00:21:41,199 IT IS OFF THE CHART, WE LOVE IT. 824 00:21:41,199 --> 00:21:43,001 WE WANT TO SEE VIDEOS AND ONES 825 00:21:43,001 --> 00:21:48,440 YOU THINK ARE CUER. 826 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,879 LET US KNOW, @ShannonBream OR 827 00:21:53,879 --> 00:21:54,313 @FoxNewsNight. 828 00:21:54,313 --> 00:21:57,215 ♪ ♪ 829 00:21:57,215 --> 00:21:58,216 BREAKING TONIGHT, THE 830 00:21:58,216 --> 00:21:59,317 SUPREME COURT GETTING INVOLVED 831 00:21:59,317 --> 00:22:00,000 IN A FIGHT OVER BORDER POLICY. 832 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,586 IN A FIGHT OVER BORDER POLICY. 833 00:22:01,586 --> 00:22:02,988 A FEDERAL COURT HAD ORDERED THE 834 00:22:02,988 --> 00:22:04,256 BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TO 835 00:22:04,256 --> 00:22:05,757 REINSTATE THESE REMAIN IN MEXICO 836 00:22:05,757 --> 00:22:07,426 POLICY USED FOR ASYLUM-SEEKERS 837 00:22:07,426 --> 00:22:10,028 AT THE BORDER UNDER THE TRUMP 838 00:22:10,028 --> 00:22:11,463 ADMINISTRATION, SO THE DOJ NOW 839 00:22:11,463 --> 00:22:12,197 UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION 840 00:22:12,197 --> 00:22:13,031 WENT TO THE SUPREME COURT WITH 841 00:22:13,031 --> 00:22:14,199 AN EMERGENCY REQUEST TO STOP 842 00:22:14,199 --> 00:22:15,000 THAT. 843 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,634 TONIGHT, AND THE NATION'S 844 00:22:15,634 --> 00:22:17,269 HIGHEST COURT IN A SHORT TIME 845 00:22:17,269 --> 00:22:19,037 AGO PUT THAT LOWER COURT RULING 846 00:22:19,037 --> 00:22:22,007 ON HOLD, BUT ONLY UNTIL LATE 847 00:22:22,007 --> 00:22:23,108 TUESDAY NIGHT, JUSTICE ALITO 848 00:22:23,108 --> 00:22:23,675 ISSUED TO MIKE'S ORDER 849 00:22:23,675 --> 00:22:25,210 INDICATING THE PAUSE WAS NEEDED 850 00:22:25,210 --> 00:22:27,179 IN ORDER TO LET THE FULL-COURT 851 00:22:27,179 --> 00:22:30,000 WEIGH IN AND FOR THE OTHER SIDEY 852 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,218 WEIGH IN AND FOR THE OTHER SIDEY 853 00:22:33,218 --> 00:22:33,819 5:00 P.M. ON TUESDAY. 854 00:22:33,819 --> 00:22:34,720 IF YOU'RE STILL WITH US, YOU 855 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,321 KNOW IF IT IS THE SUPREME COURT 856 00:22:36,321 --> 00:22:37,422 I WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED. 857 00:22:37,422 --> 00:22:38,857 WITH MORE THAN 400,000 MIGRANTS 858 00:22:38,857 --> 00:22:39,691 AT OUR SOUTHERN BORDER AND JUST 859 00:22:39,691 --> 00:22:41,993 THE LAST TWO MONTHS, GOVERNMENT 860 00:22:41,993 --> 00:22:42,661 OFFICIALS AND HEALTH CARE 861 00:22:42,661 --> 00:22:45,430 PROFESSIONALS IN SOUTH TEXAS ARE 862 00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:46,965 GRAPPLING WITH COVID FOLLOW-UP 863 00:22:46,965 --> 00:22:48,166 FROM RECORD NUMBERS. 864 00:22:48,166 --> 00:22:49,601 FOX NEWS MEDICAL CONTRIBUTOR 865 00:22:49,601 --> 00:22:50,802 DR. MARC SIEGEL HAS ONE DOCTOR'S 866 00:22:50,802 --> 00:22:52,037 STORY TONIGHT. 867 00:22:52,037 --> 00:22:53,138 GOOD EVENING, DOCTOR. 868 00:22:53,138 --> 00:22:57,175 >> GOOD EVENING, SHANNON. 869 00:22:57,175 --> 00:22:57,909 DR. LOPEZ, MEDICAL DIRECTOR AT 870 00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:58,643 McALLEN MEDICAL CENTER AT OUR 871 00:22:58,643 --> 00:23:00,000 SOUTHERN BORDER, OFTEN DOESN'T 872 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,447 SOUTHERN BORDER, OFTEN DOESN'T 873 00:23:02,447 --> 00:23:05,016 GO HOME AT THE END OF A 12-HOUR 874 00:23:05,016 --> 00:23:05,317 SHIFT. 875 00:23:05,317 --> 00:23:08,987 HER HOSPITAL IS OVERWHELMED WITH 876 00:23:08,987 --> 00:23:09,788 UNVACCINATED PATIENTS. 877 00:23:09,788 --> 00:23:11,990 >> PROBABLY ABOUT TEN DAYS AGO, 878 00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:13,792 THINGS GOT A LITTLE BIT HECTIC, 879 00:23:13,792 --> 00:23:15,927 AND WE ARE MAKING PLANS. 880 00:23:15,927 --> 00:23:18,096 WE ARE WORKING EXTRA SHIFTS. 881 00:23:18,096 --> 00:23:21,600 WE ARE PLANNING TO GET HELP SOON 882 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,505 FROM THE STATE BECAUSE THE CASES 883 00:23:26,505 --> 00:23:29,174 ARE INCREASING VERY MUCH, FAST. 884 00:23:29,174 --> 00:23:30,000 WE DEAL WITH SUFFERING, WE DEAL 885 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,109 WE DEAL WITH SUFFERING, WE DEAL 886 00:23:31,109 --> 00:23:33,412 WITH PAIN, WE DEAL WITH LOSS, 887 00:23:33,412 --> 00:23:37,382 BUT THIS IS MY FIRST TIME THAT I 888 00:23:37,382 --> 00:23:38,550 SEE PEOPLE SUFFERING ALONE. 889 00:23:38,550 --> 00:23:40,218 >> DR. LOPEZ SAYS MANY OF HER 890 00:23:40,218 --> 00:23:42,721 FELLOW STAFF HAVE GOTTEN SICK, 891 00:23:42,721 --> 00:23:43,722 AND SOME COME ALONG WITH THEIR 892 00:23:43,722 --> 00:23:45,724 PATIENTS, HAVE DIED. 893 00:23:45,724 --> 00:23:47,959 AS A GROUP, THEY MOURN, BUT 894 00:23:47,959 --> 00:23:50,562 STILL, THEY SHOULDER ON, 895 00:23:50,562 --> 00:23:52,998 ANXIOUS, WORRIED, BUT DEDICATED. 896 00:23:52,998 --> 00:23:56,168 >> I HAD ONE THAT HAD TRAUMA, 897 00:23:56,168 --> 00:24:00,000 AND REALLY, WHEN HE CAME INTO 898 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,441 AND REALLY, WHEN HE CAME INTO 899 00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:06,211 THE HOSPITAL, HE WAS POSITIVE 900 00:24:06,211 --> 00:24:09,581 WITH COVID. 901 00:24:09,581 --> 00:24:10,415 TRANSFER TO THE ICU, SHARED WITH 902 00:24:10,415 --> 00:24:11,450 ME THE FEELING THAT HE WAS 903 00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:12,150 COMING HERE TO TRY TO HAVE A 904 00:24:12,150 --> 00:24:17,622 BETTER LIFE, NOW IN A BED ALONE, 905 00:24:17,622 --> 00:24:19,591 KNOWING HOW HIS FAMILY WAS IN 906 00:24:19,591 --> 00:24:19,991 HIS COUNTRY. 907 00:24:19,991 --> 00:24:22,027 >> FOR DR. LOPEZ AND OTHERS, 908 00:24:22,027 --> 00:24:24,796 THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL STORY, 909 00:24:24,796 --> 00:24:26,765 IT IS A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS. 910 00:24:26,765 --> 00:24:28,433 SHE SAYS SOME CATHOLIC CHARITIES 911 00:24:28,433 --> 00:24:29,401 ARE BUILDING SHELTERS TO 912 00:24:29,401 --> 00:24:30,000 QUARANTINE IMMIGRANTS TO PROTECT 913 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:30,936 QUARANTINE IMMIGRANTS TO PROTECT 914 00:24:30,936 --> 00:24:32,370 LOCAL CITIZENS, BUT THE SHELTERS 915 00:24:32,370 --> 00:24:34,406 ARE FILLING UP QUICKLY, AND 916 00:24:34,406 --> 00:24:35,941 CRITICS SAY THAT WE SHOULD BE 917 00:24:35,941 --> 00:24:37,476 SENDING CARE TO THE OTHER SIDE 918 00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:38,910 OF THE BORDER, RATHER THAN 919 00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:40,846 BRINGING PEOPLE OVER HERE THAT 920 00:24:40,846 --> 00:24:41,913 WE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF. 921 00:24:41,913 --> 00:24:42,247 SHANNON? 922 00:24:42,247 --> 00:24:43,815 >> Shannon: THAT IS ANOTHER 923 00:24:43,815 --> 00:24:44,416 STRATEGY. 924 00:24:44,416 --> 00:24:46,151 DR. SIEGEL, THANK YOU FOR THE 925 00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:46,818 UPDATE. 926 00:24:46,818 --> 00:24:48,253 ALL RIGHT, I WANT TO BRING YOU 927 00:24:48,253 --> 00:24:49,788 IN BECAUSE WE NEED SOME 928 00:24:49,788 --> 00:24:50,522 UPLIFTING NEWS, SOME LIGHTER 929 00:24:50,522 --> 00:24:51,623 FARE. 930 00:24:51,623 --> 00:24:52,824 THIS IS OUR MIDNIGHT SNACK CHAT. 931 00:24:52,824 --> 00:24:53,859 WE ARE GOING TO START CALLING AT 932 00:24:53,859 --> 00:24:55,227 THAT BECAUSE WE ALWAYS END UP 933 00:24:55,227 --> 00:24:56,628 TALKING ABOUT FOOD. 934 00:24:56,628 --> 00:24:58,396 THE WEEKEND IS COMING. 935 00:24:58,396 --> 00:24:59,731 MAYBE SWEET OUT THERE FOR FOLKS 936 00:24:59,731 --> 00:25:00,000 TO SELL BRING SOMETHING, GETTING 937 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,932 TO SELL BRING SOMETHING, GETTING 938 00:25:00,932 --> 00:25:01,800 TOGETHER WITH FAMILY. 939 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,536 NOW WE HAVE THE DEBATE, CAKE OR 940 00:25:04,536 --> 00:25:05,303 PIE? 941 00:25:05,303 --> 00:25:05,971 YOU HAVE SOME INTERESTING 942 00:25:05,971 --> 00:25:07,172 POLLING NUMBERS, THERE IS 943 00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:08,240 ACTUALLY A DEBATE ABOUT THIS. 944 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,808 >> THERE REALLY IS, AND IN FACT 945 00:25:09,808 --> 00:25:11,209 I THINK YOU COULD ARGUE, 946 00:25:11,209 --> 00:25:12,344 SHANNON, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT 947 00:25:12,344 --> 00:25:14,212 HAS BEEN BREWING, OR BACON, IF 948 00:25:14,212 --> 00:25:15,881 YOU WILL, FOR YEARS. 949 00:25:15,881 --> 00:25:17,616 CAKE OR PIE? 950 00:25:17,616 --> 00:25:20,385 LET ME TAKE YOU BACK TO 2012, A 951 00:25:20,385 --> 00:25:23,388 PBS POLL SHOWED 55% OF AMERICAN 952 00:25:23,388 --> 00:25:24,623 PREFERRED PIE OVER CAKE. 953 00:25:24,623 --> 00:25:26,358 FAST FORWARD A FEW YEARS TO 954 00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:27,559 2015, BUZZFEED IN A SURVEY SAID 955 00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:29,961 IT WAS DOWN TO 52'S-48 PIE. 956 00:25:29,961 --> 00:25:30,000 SINCE THEN IN THE YEARS AFTER 957 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,029 SINCE THEN IN THE YEARS AFTER 958 00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:32,530 THAT, IT'S BEEN BACK AND FORTH, 959 00:25:32,530 --> 00:25:35,233 NECK AND NECK FROM A FORK VERSUS 960 00:25:35,233 --> 00:25:38,003 PORT SO PIE VERSUS CAKE, WHO YOU 961 00:25:38,003 --> 00:25:38,270 GOT? 962 00:25:38,270 --> 00:25:39,404 >> Shannon: I AM DEFINITELY A 963 00:25:39,404 --> 00:25:46,011 CAKE PAN. 964 00:25:46,011 --> 00:25:47,779 THEY SELL THEIR CAKE BY A SLICE. 965 00:25:47,779 --> 00:25:48,713 YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO COMMIT TO 966 00:25:48,713 --> 00:25:51,950 THE WHOLE CAKE, IT FEELS LESS 967 00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:52,284 GUILTY. 968 00:25:52,284 --> 00:25:53,218 WHWHAT ABOUT YOU? 969 00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:54,886 >> I LOVE CAKE AND CUPCAKES, BUT 970 00:25:54,886 --> 00:25:55,954 I AM A PIE GUY. 971 00:25:55,954 --> 00:25:56,755 I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. 972 00:25:56,755 --> 00:25:57,522 I DON'T KNOW WHY. 973 00:25:57,522 --> 00:26:00,000 WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, MY MOM 974 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:00,492 WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, MY MOM 975 00:26:00,492 --> 00:26:02,027 BASICALLY MADE DEVIL'S FOOD CAKE 976 00:26:02,027 --> 00:26:02,994 ALL THE TIME, THAT'S ALL I EVER 977 00:26:02,994 --> 00:26:04,729 HAD, AND THEN I GOT PIE WHEN 978 00:26:04,729 --> 00:26:07,399 I'VE GOT TO BE AN ADULT, OH, -- 979 00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:08,600 >> Shannon: WHAT'S THIS? 980 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,567 >> EXACTLY. 981 00:26:09,567 --> 00:26:11,436 MOST POPULAR PIES, APPLE, 982 00:26:11,436 --> 00:26:13,538 PUMPKIN, CHERRY, PEAK ON, HE 983 00:26:13,538 --> 00:26:16,174 LINED, BANANA CREAM, LEMON 984 00:26:16,174 --> 00:26:18,109 MERINGUE, BLUEBERRY, OREO, AND 985 00:26:18,109 --> 00:26:19,144 CHOCOLATE MOUSSE. 986 00:26:19,144 --> 00:26:21,146 MOST POPULAR CAKES ARE, WAIT FOR 987 00:26:21,146 --> 00:26:23,181 IT, CHEESECAKE, MOLTEN 988 00:26:23,181 --> 00:26:24,616 CHOCOLATE, RED VELVET, BOSTON 989 00:26:24,616 --> 00:26:25,917 CREAM, DEVIL'S FOOD -- THAT'S 990 00:26:25,917 --> 00:26:28,553 THE ONE MY MOM ALWAYS MADE -- 991 00:26:28,553 --> 00:26:30,000 ICE CREAM CAKE, GOOEY BUTTER 992 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,755 ICE CREAM CAKE, GOOEY BUTTER 993 00:26:30,755 --> 00:26:32,490 CAKE, KING CAKE CHIFFON, AND 994 00:26:32,490 --> 00:26:33,391 COCONUT CAKE. 995 00:26:33,391 --> 00:26:35,193 SO, YOUR FAVORITE PIE AND YOUR 996 00:26:35,193 --> 00:26:37,028 FAVORITE CAKE ARE... 997 00:26:37,028 --> 00:26:38,530 >> Shannon: I DON'T LIKE THE 998 00:26:38,530 --> 00:26:39,531 FRUITY STUFF, I AM A FLORIDA 999 00:26:39,531 --> 00:26:41,333 GIRL, I AM GOING WITH KEY LIME 1000 00:26:41,333 --> 00:26:44,002 PIE FOR MY PIE. 1001 00:26:44,002 --> 00:26:46,538 FOR CAKE, I LIKE THE TRADITIONAL 1002 00:26:46,538 --> 00:26:47,505 VANILLA WITH BUTTER CREAM. 1003 00:26:47,505 --> 00:26:49,174 >> FOR PIE, CHERRY PIE GUY, 1004 00:26:49,174 --> 00:26:50,608 ALWAYS HAVE BEEN. 1005 00:26:50,608 --> 00:26:52,243 LOVE APPLE PIE TOO SO CAN'T 1006 00:26:52,243 --> 00:26:54,779 COMPLAIN, AND I ACTUALLY REALLY. 1007 00:26:54,779 --> 00:26:56,381 MY MOVE TO MIAMI, I WAS LIKE, 1008 00:26:56,381 --> 00:26:58,550 KEY LINE, I FELL IN LOVE. 1009 00:26:58,550 --> 00:27:00,000 AS FOR CAKE, I HATE TO SAY IT, I 1010 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,185 AS FOR CAKE, I HATE TO SAY IT, I 1011 00:27:00,185 --> 00:27:02,654 AM A CREATURE OF HABIT, DEVIL'S 1012 00:27:02,654 --> 00:27:04,389 FOOD CAKE IT IS. 1013 00:27:04,389 --> 00:27:06,291 >> Shannon: MOM GETS ALL THE 1014 00:27:06,291 --> 00:27:06,758 CREDIT FOR THAT. 1015 00:27:06,758 --> 00:27:08,893 >> RED VELVET IS GOOD, TOO. 1016 00:27:08,893 --> 00:27:10,328 >> Shannon: WE WILL SAY ALL OF 1017 00:27:10,328 --> 00:27:11,129 THE ABOVE. 1018 00:27:11,129 --> 00:27:11,997 >> PRETTY MUCH. 1019 00:27:11,997 --> 00:27:13,298 >> Shannon: KEVIN, GOOD NEWS 1020 00:27:13,298 --> 00:27:13,665 COMING UP. 1021 00:27:13,665 --> 00:27:14,766 >> GREAT STUFF TONIGHT. 1022 00:27:14,766 --> 00:27:15,967 I WILL SEE YOU LATER. 1023 00:27:15,967 --> 00:27:18,370 >> Shannon: THANK YOU, KEVIN. 1024 00:27:18,370 --> 00:27:19,804 ALL RIGHT, NO VACCINE, NO 1025 00:27:19,804 --> 00:27:21,006 MEDICAL CARE? 1026 00:27:21,006 --> 00:27:21,906 IS IT ETHICAL FOR DOCTORS OR 1027 00:27:21,906 --> 00:27:23,174 HOSPITALS TO TURN YOU AWAY IF 1028 00:27:23,174 --> 00:27:24,576 YOU DON'T HAVE A SHOT? 1029 00:27:24,576 --> 00:27:26,177 FOR SOME PATIENTS, THAT IS NOW 1030 00:27:26,177 --> 00:27:27,012 REALITY. 1031 00:27:27,012 --> 00:27:30,000 PLENTY TO 1032 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,185 PLENTY TO 1033 00:27:34,185 --> 00:27:38,390 ♪ ♪ 1034 00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:40,158 >> Shannon: VACCINE MANDATES 1035 00:27:40,158 --> 00:27:42,227 COMING FOR STUDENTS IN BOTH 1036 00:27:42,227 --> 00:27:43,662 LOS ANGELES AND NEW YORK CITY 1037 00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:43,995 TONIGHT. 1038 00:27:43,995 --> 00:27:44,796 CORRESPONDENT MATT FINN UPDATING 1039 00:27:44,796 --> 00:27:48,800 THE LATEST FIGHTS OVER VACCINES 1040 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,001 FOR YOUNG AMERICANS. 1041 00:27:50,001 --> 00:27:51,002 GOOD EVENING, MATT. 1042 00:27:51,002 --> 00:27:52,837 >> SHANNON, FROM HERE IN 1043 00:27:52,837 --> 00:27:53,538 CALIFORNIA TO TEXAS AND 1044 00:27:53,538 --> 00:27:56,574 NEW YORK, THERE IS A GROWING 1045 00:27:56,574 --> 00:27:58,743 LIST OF MASK AND VACCINE 1046 00:27:58,743 --> 00:27:59,411 MANDATES FOR STUDENTS OF ALL 1047 00:27:59,411 --> 00:27:59,711 AGES. 1048 00:27:59,711 --> 00:28:00,000 IN LOS ANGELES, CULVER CITY 1049 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,213 IN LOS ANGELES, CULVER CITY 1050 00:28:02,213 --> 00:28:03,648 SCHOOL DISTRICT IS BELIEVED TO 1051 00:28:03,648 --> 00:28:05,183 BECOME THE FIRST IN THE STATE TO 1052 00:28:05,183 --> 00:28:07,419 REQUIRE ALL STUDENTS 12 YEARS 1053 00:28:07,419 --> 00:28:08,353 AND OLDER TO BE VACCINATED. 1054 00:28:08,353 --> 00:28:11,022 THE SUPERINTENDENT SAYS PARENTS, 1055 00:28:11,022 --> 00:28:11,656 TEACHERS, AND STAFF 1056 00:28:11,656 --> 00:28:12,691 OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT THE MOVE. 1057 00:28:12,691 --> 00:28:17,495 >> I WANT TO PROMISE TO THAT 1058 00:28:17,495 --> 00:28:18,196 FAMILY THAT IN THE AFTERNOON 1059 00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:20,932 WHEN THIS CHILD IS RETURNING TO 1060 00:28:20,932 --> 00:28:22,367 YOU, WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE 1061 00:28:22,367 --> 00:28:24,769 COULD HAVE DONE TO RETURN THIS 1062 00:28:24,769 --> 00:28:25,303 CHILD SAFELY TO YOU. 1063 00:28:25,303 --> 00:28:27,772 >> I KIND OF AGREE WITH IT. 1064 00:28:27,772 --> 00:28:29,274 YOU DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE HAS IT 1065 00:28:29,274 --> 00:28:30,000 OR NOT, AT THIS POINT. 1066 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,242 OR NOT, AT THIS POINT. 1067 00:28:31,242 --> 00:28:33,011 WE ALL LOOK NORMAL, YOU CAN BE 1068 00:28:33,011 --> 00:28:33,445 ASYMPTOMATIC. 1069 00:28:33,445 --> 00:28:34,746 >> I DON'T AGREE WITH IT. 1070 00:28:34,746 --> 00:28:36,381 IT SHOULD BE A CHOICE. 1071 00:28:36,381 --> 00:28:39,718 >> CALIFORNIA HAS ORDERED ALL 1072 00:28:39,718 --> 00:28:41,052 K-12 STUDENT AND EMPLOYEE IS BE 1073 00:28:41,052 --> 00:28:42,887 VACCINATED OR TAKE 1074 00:28:42,887 --> 00:28:46,825 CORONAVIRUS TESTS WEEKLY. 1075 00:28:46,825 --> 00:28:48,026 MAKING EMPLOYEES GET VACCINATED 1076 00:28:48,026 --> 00:28:50,428 WITH NO OPTIONS FOR TEST. 1077 00:28:50,428 --> 00:28:52,163 IN NEW YORK CITY, 1078 00:28:52,163 --> 00:28:53,164 MAYOR de BLASIO TWEETING 1079 00:28:53,164 --> 00:28:53,832 FRIDAY MORNING "COVID-19 1080 00:28:53,832 --> 00:28:54,999 VACCINATION WILL BE REQUIRED FOR 1081 00:28:54,999 --> 00:28:57,736 ALL STUDENTS AND STAFF 1082 00:28:57,736 --> 00:28:58,603 PARTICIPATING IN HIGH-RISK, 1083 00:28:58,603 --> 00:29:00,000 PUBLIC SCHOOL, ATHLETICS THIS 1084 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,606 PUBLIC SCHOOL, ATHLETICS THIS 1085 00:29:01,606 --> 00:29:02,807 YEAR." 1086 00:29:02,807 --> 00:29:04,342 THAT INCLUDES VOLLEYBALL, 1087 00:29:04,342 --> 00:29:06,311 WRESTLING, LACROSSE, RUGBY, 1088 00:29:06,311 --> 00:29:06,644 BOWLING. 1089 00:29:06,644 --> 00:29:12,417 >> 12-117 GROUP, HIGHEST GROWTH 1090 00:29:12,417 --> 00:29:14,853 RATE IN VACCINATION IN ANY AGE 1091 00:29:14,853 --> 00:29:16,755 GROUP IN NEW YORK CITY. 1092 00:29:16,755 --> 00:29:17,722 ALMOST 300,000 KIDS IN THAT 1093 00:29:17,722 --> 00:29:18,623 RANGE AND GOT IN THE 1094 00:29:18,623 --> 00:29:19,624 VACCINATION. 1095 00:29:19,624 --> 00:29:21,192 IS MAKING A BIG DIFFERENCE. 1096 00:29:21,192 --> 00:29:23,161 >> U.S. EDUCATION SECRETARY 1097 00:29:23,161 --> 00:29:25,997 TELLING ASKED HIGH SCHOOL 1098 00:29:25,997 --> 00:29:26,664 FOOTBALL STUDENTS THERE 1099 00:29:26,664 --> 00:29:30,000 WILL BE POP UP CLINICS AND 1100 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,168 WILL BE POP UP CLINICS AND 1101 00:29:30,168 --> 00:29:30,902 STUDENTS NEED TO BE REMINDED OF 1102 00:29:30,902 --> 00:29:33,404 WHAT IS AT STAKE IF THEY DO 1103 00:29:33,404 --> 00:29:34,305 NOT DO THEIR PART. 1104 00:29:34,305 --> 00:29:35,406 >> VACCINE IS A TOOL WE HAVE TO 1105 00:29:35,406 --> 00:29:36,608 KEEP YOU SAFE AND DO KEEP YOU ON 1106 00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:38,009 THAT FIELD SO YOU CAN TAKE THAT 1107 00:29:38,009 --> 00:29:39,544 RACE. 1108 00:29:39,544 --> 00:29:41,613 >> MORE MANDATES COULD BE ON THE 1109 00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:42,947 WAY AS THE FDA IS EXPECTED TO 1110 00:29:42,947 --> 00:29:43,715 GIVE THE PFIZER VACCINE FULL 1111 00:29:43,715 --> 00:29:44,582 APPROVAL ON MONDAY AND ALSO 1112 00:29:44,582 --> 00:29:46,084 BEGIN TO APPROVE THE VACCINE FOR 1113 00:29:46,084 --> 00:29:48,419 CHILDREN UNDER 12. 1114 00:29:48,419 --> 00:29:50,755 THE LATEST IN TEXAS, THE 1115 00:29:50,755 --> 00:29:52,357 SUPREME COURT THERE BLOCKED 1116 00:29:52,357 --> 00:29:53,625 GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S ATTEMPT TO 1117 00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:55,326 BLOCK MASK MANDATES IN HIS 1118 00:29:55,326 --> 00:29:56,227 STATE. 1119 00:29:56,227 --> 00:29:57,428 THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL IS 1120 00:29:57,428 --> 00:29:58,963 EXPECTED TO APPEAL THAT 1121 00:29:58,963 --> 00:29:59,464 DECISION, SHANNON. 1122 00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:00,000 >> Shannon: ALL RIGHT, 1123 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,932 >> Shannon: ALL RIGHT, 1124 00:30:00,932 --> 00:30:03,001 MATT FINN, THANK YOU FOR THE 1125 00:30:03,001 --> 00:30:03,801 UPDATE. 1126 00:30:03,801 --> 00:30:05,770 A DOCTOR IN ALABAMA REFUSING TO 1127 00:30:05,770 --> 00:30:06,538 TREAT PATIENTS WHO WON'T GET THE 1128 00:30:06,538 --> 00:30:08,606 COVID VACCINE. 1129 00:30:08,606 --> 00:30:10,375 AS HOSPITALS IN THE DALLAS AREA 1130 00:30:10,375 --> 00:30:12,443 SAY THEY MAY SOON CONSIDER 1131 00:30:12,443 --> 00:30:13,411 VACCINATION STATUS IN ASSIGNING 1132 00:30:13,411 --> 00:30:14,412 ICU BEDS. 1133 00:30:14,412 --> 00:30:16,514 AND A WASHINGTON STATE HOSPITAL 1134 00:30:16,514 --> 00:30:17,215 IS REPORTEDLY KICKING PEOPLE 1135 00:30:17,215 --> 00:30:19,250 WAITING FOR ORGAN TRANSPLANTS 1136 00:30:19,250 --> 00:30:19,984 OFF THE LIST IF THEY DON'T GET 1137 00:30:19,984 --> 00:30:21,986 THE JOB. 1138 00:30:21,986 --> 00:30:23,388 WEIGHTY ISSUES OF CONSCIENCE AND 1139 00:30:23,388 --> 00:30:25,356 MORALITY TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, 1140 00:30:25,356 --> 00:30:27,025 SO LET'S BRING IN BIOETHICIST, 1141 00:30:27,025 --> 00:30:29,160 THEOLOGIAN, AND AUTHOR OF 1142 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,000 "LOSING OUR DIGNITY," CHARLIE 1143 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,828 "LOSING OUR DIGNITY," CHARLIE 1144 00:30:30,828 --> 00:30:31,162 CAMOSY. 1145 00:30:31,162 --> 00:30:32,597 GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK. 1146 00:30:32,597 --> 00:30:33,798 >> HEY, SHANNON. 1147 00:30:33,798 --> 00:30:34,432 >> Shannon: THIS ALABAMA 1148 00:30:34,432 --> 00:30:36,401 DOCTOR SENDING THIS LETTER OUT 1149 00:30:36,401 --> 00:30:37,669 TO HIS PATIENTS AND PICKED UP BY 1150 00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:39,504 THE OUTLETS IN ALABAMA, SAYS "I 1151 00:30:39,504 --> 00:30:41,439 CANNOT AND WILL NOT FORCE ANYONE 1152 00:30:41,439 --> 00:30:42,840 TO TAKE THE VACCINE BUT I ALSO 1153 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,608 CANNOT CONTINUE TO WATCH MY 1154 00:30:43,608 --> 00:30:46,010 PATIENTS SUFFER AND DIE FROM AN 1155 00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:47,579 EMINENTLY PREVENTABLE DISEASE. 1156 00:30:47,579 --> 00:30:49,347 THEREFORE, AS OF OCTOBER 1ST, 1157 00:30:49,347 --> 00:30:52,050 2021, I WILL NO LONGER SEE 1158 00:30:52,050 --> 00:30:54,385 PATIENTS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN 1159 00:30:54,385 --> 00:30:55,086 VACCINATED AGAINST COVID-19." 1160 00:30:55,086 --> 00:30:57,055 WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF IT, CHARLIE? 1161 00:30:57,055 --> 00:30:58,823 >> WELL, YOU ARE THE LAWYER, YOU 1162 00:30:58,823 --> 00:31:00,000 KNOW THE LAW BETTER THAN I DO, 1163 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,158 KNOW THE LAW BETTER THAN I DO, 1164 00:31:00,158 --> 00:31:01,492 BUT I HAVE TO SAY, THIS SOUNDS 1165 00:31:01,492 --> 00:31:03,228 LIKE SOMETHING CLOSE TO A CIVIL 1166 00:31:03,228 --> 00:31:04,562 RIGHTS VIOLATION. 1167 00:31:04,562 --> 00:31:05,363 I MIGHT DISAGREE. 1168 00:31:05,363 --> 00:31:06,965 IN FACT, I KIND OF AGREE WITH 1169 00:31:06,965 --> 00:31:09,133 DOCTOR, PEOPLE SHOULD GET 1170 00:31:09,133 --> 00:31:09,901 VACCINATED, BUT THE UNVACCINATED 1171 00:31:09,901 --> 00:31:10,969 HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AND EQUAL 1172 00:31:10,969 --> 00:31:12,403 PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW AS 1173 00:31:12,403 --> 00:31:13,404 EVERYONE ELSE. 1174 00:31:13,404 --> 00:31:14,138 SPEAKING AS A MEDICAL ETHICIST, 1175 00:31:14,138 --> 00:31:16,708 IT IS ONE THING TO BASE 1176 00:31:16,708 --> 00:31:17,709 SOMETHING LIKE TRANSPLANTS ON 1177 00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:18,676 WHO IS MOST LIKELY TO SURVIVE, 1178 00:31:18,676 --> 00:31:22,747 BUT THIS DR. IS DOING SOCIAL 1179 00:31:22,747 --> 00:31:23,181 ENGINEERING. 1180 00:31:23,181 --> 00:31:24,515 HE IS BASICALLY SAYING I WANT 1181 00:31:24,515 --> 00:31:25,950 THIS OUTCOME IN SOCIETY, ONE I 1182 00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:27,885 HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH, AND THEN 1183 00:31:27,885 --> 00:31:28,720 REFUSING TO TREAT PATIENTS UNDER 1184 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,000 HIS CARE AS A RESULT OF THAT? 1185 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,622 HIS CARE AS A RESULT OF THAT? 1186 00:31:30,622 --> 00:31:33,892 THAT VIOLATES EVERY MEDICAL. 1187 00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:34,993 >> Shannon: LET'S MOVE ON TO 1188 00:31:34,993 --> 00:31:37,228 SOME OF THESE OTHERS. 1189 00:31:37,228 --> 00:31:38,830 DALLAS, YOU FLAGGED THIS AND 1190 00:31:38,830 --> 00:31:42,200 TALKED ABOUT THIS AS WELL, 1191 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,534 VACCINATION STATUS MAY BE 1192 00:31:43,534 --> 00:31:44,936 CONSIDERED TO GET ICU BEDS IN 1193 00:31:44,936 --> 00:31:46,671 DALLAS AREA HOSPITALS IF THE 1194 00:31:46,671 --> 00:31:47,472 COVID SPREAD WORSENS. 1195 00:31:47,472 --> 00:31:49,207 THEY SAY OF NORTH TEXAS STARTS 1196 00:31:49,207 --> 00:31:51,075 RUNNING OUT OF ICU BEDS, DOCTORS 1197 00:31:51,075 --> 00:31:52,944 MAY HAVE TO CONSIDER CORONAVIRUS 1198 00:31:52,944 --> 00:31:55,046 VACCINATION STATUS AS A FACTOR 1199 00:31:55,046 --> 00:31:56,581 IN WHO GETS PRIORITY CARE 1200 00:31:56,581 --> 00:31:58,216 APPEARED WITH THE VACCINATED 1201 00:31:58,216 --> 00:31:58,916 POTENTIALLY BEING PRIORITIZED 1202 00:31:58,916 --> 00:31:59,884 FOR TREATMENT ON THE ASSUMPTION 1203 00:31:59,884 --> 00:32:00,000 THAT THEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO 1204 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,021 THAT THEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO 1205 00:32:03,021 --> 00:32:03,755 SURVIVE. 1206 00:32:03,755 --> 00:32:04,889 HOW DOES THAT ARGUMENT SIT WITH 1207 00:32:04,889 --> 00:32:06,891 YOU AS AN ETHICIST? 1208 00:32:06,891 --> 00:32:09,093 >> IF YOU PUT A BUNCH OF THINGS 1209 00:32:09,093 --> 00:32:10,595 TOGETHER LIKE AGE AND HEALTH, 1210 00:32:10,595 --> 00:32:12,130 YOU KNOW, VACCINATION STATUS IS 1211 00:32:12,130 --> 00:32:13,631 ONE OF SEVERAL THINGS, MANY 1212 00:32:13,631 --> 00:32:15,133 THINGS TO PUT TOGETHER. 1213 00:32:15,133 --> 00:32:16,734 THEN I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT. 1214 00:32:16,734 --> 00:32:18,369 BUT LET'S FACE IT, WHAT'S GOING 1215 00:32:18,369 --> 00:32:20,371 ON IN TODAY'S WORLD, SHANNON, 1216 00:32:20,371 --> 00:32:22,206 THERE IS A POLITICAL ASPECT TO 1217 00:32:22,206 --> 00:32:22,607 ALL OF THIS. 1218 00:32:22,607 --> 00:32:23,508 THERE IS AN IDEOLOGICAL ASPECT 1219 00:32:23,508 --> 00:32:24,175 TO ALL OF THIS. 1220 00:32:24,175 --> 00:32:25,410 AND HERE IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO 1221 00:32:25,410 --> 00:32:29,314 THROW INTO THE MIX: 40%, ONLY 1222 00:32:29,314 --> 00:32:30,000 40% OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE 1223 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:30,848 40% OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE 1224 00:32:30,848 --> 00:32:31,950 UNITED STATES HAVE COVID 1225 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:33,618 VACCINATED. 1226 00:32:33,618 --> 00:32:35,353 ONLY 45% OF LATINOS ARE 1227 00:32:35,353 --> 00:32:36,020 VACCINATED. 1228 00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:36,654 WHO IS DISPROPORTIONATELY 1229 00:32:36,654 --> 00:32:37,955 AFFECTED WHEN WE SAY "YOU DON'T 1230 00:32:37,955 --> 00:32:39,390 HAVE ACCESS TO THE HEALTH CARE 1231 00:32:39,390 --> 00:32:41,793 SYSTEM IF YOU ARE UNVACCINATED." 1232 00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:42,994 THIS PROPORTIONATELY, 1233 00:32:42,994 --> 00:32:43,761 MINORITIES. 1234 00:32:43,761 --> 00:32:45,396 WHERE IS THE RACIAL JUSTICE ON 1235 00:32:45,396 --> 00:32:45,730 THIS? 1236 00:32:45,730 --> 00:32:47,031 WE TALK ABOUT IT AND OTHER 1237 00:32:47,031 --> 00:32:49,634 ISSUES, IMPORTANT, BUT IT IS 1238 00:32:49,634 --> 00:32:51,135 ABSENT, CRICKETS, WHEN IT COMES 1239 00:32:51,135 --> 00:32:52,937 TO THIS SET OF ISSUES, AND WE 1240 00:32:52,937 --> 00:32:54,372 OUGHT TO START TALKING ABOUT IT. 1241 00:32:54,372 --> 00:32:55,573 >> Shannon: YEAH, HERE IN 1242 00:32:55,573 --> 00:32:57,008 NEW YORK CITY, WHERE IF YOU DO 1243 00:32:57,008 --> 00:32:58,409 NOT HAVE A VEXING PASSPORT, YOU 1244 00:32:58,409 --> 00:32:59,978 CAN'T GO INTO RESTAURANTS, 1245 00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:00,000 ENTERTAINMENT VENUES, 1246 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,612 ENTERTAINMENT VENUES, 1247 00:33:01,612 --> 00:33:03,581 GYMS, THAT KIND OF THING, AND A, 1248 00:33:03,581 --> 00:33:05,016 THE RACIAL DISPARITY THEY ARE, 1249 00:33:05,016 --> 00:33:06,751 AS WELL, YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT 1250 00:33:06,751 --> 00:33:07,919 ARGUMENTS ABOUT DISPARATE 1251 00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:09,921 IMPACT -- EVEN IF THE 1252 00:33:09,921 --> 00:33:12,357 UNDERLYING, YOU KNOW, POLICY HAS 1253 00:33:12,357 --> 00:33:14,592 A POLITICAL AND NOT RACIST ROLE, 1254 00:33:14,592 --> 00:33:16,994 IF IT THEN TRANSLATES INTO 1255 00:33:16,994 --> 00:33:18,196 SOMETHING THAT DOES MORE 1256 00:33:18,196 --> 00:33:19,397 DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT 1257 00:33:19,397 --> 00:33:20,098 MINORITIES, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE 1258 00:33:20,098 --> 00:33:20,932 THAT CONVERSATION. 1259 00:33:20,932 --> 00:33:22,000 I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT. 1260 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,401 OKAY, LET'S GO TO WASHINGTON 1261 00:33:23,401 --> 00:33:24,669 STATE, WHERE THIS IS THE ONE 1262 00:33:24,669 --> 00:33:25,737 THAT HAS GOTTEN SO MUCH 1263 00:33:25,737 --> 00:33:27,805 ATTENTION NOW BECAUSE THERE 1264 00:33:27,805 --> 00:33:29,140 HOSPITALS THERE THAT IS 1265 00:33:29,140 --> 00:33:30,000 APPARENTLY TURNING PEOPLE AWAY 1266 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,074 APPARENTLY TURNING PEOPLE AWAY 1267 00:33:30,074 --> 00:33:30,942 WHO WERE ON THE TRANSPLANT LIST 1268 00:33:30,942 --> 00:33:32,410 IF THEY DON'T GET THE SHOT. 1269 00:33:32,410 --> 00:33:34,112 ONE OF THE PLAY SHOULD KNOW MY 1270 00:33:34,112 --> 00:33:35,613 PATIENTS, WHO SAYS HE IS BEING 1271 00:33:35,613 --> 00:33:37,515 DENIED A LIVER TRANSPLANT, WAS 1272 00:33:37,515 --> 00:33:38,216 ON TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT THIS 1273 00:33:38,216 --> 00:33:39,684 WEEK, AND HERE'S WHAT HE SAID 1274 00:33:39,684 --> 00:33:41,285 ABOUT THIS. 1275 00:33:41,285 --> 00:33:43,054 >> I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN ALL 1276 00:33:43,054 --> 00:33:43,821 AROUND THE UNITED STATES THE 1277 00:33:43,821 --> 00:33:45,723 LAST FEW MONTHS, BUT NOW HERE IT 1278 00:33:45,723 --> 00:33:47,959 IS, YOU KNOW, IN MY KITCHEN, 1279 00:33:47,959 --> 00:33:49,360 THIS IS IT, YOU BASICALLY HAVE A 1280 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,530 HILL TO DIE ON, YOU CHOOSE THE 1281 00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,399 VACCINE AND GET TO SEE ANOTHER 1282 00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:57,568 DAY, OR YOU DON'T, AND YOU DIE. 1283 00:33:57,568 --> 00:33:58,870 >> Shannon: CLICK FINAL WORD 1284 00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:59,904 FROM YOU, CHARLIE. 1285 00:33:59,904 --> 00:34:00,000 DID YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE HERE? 1286 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,539 DID YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE HERE? 1287 00:34:01,539 --> 00:34:03,441 >> YOU ASKED ME A COUPLE OF 1288 00:34:03,441 --> 00:34:06,377 YEARS BEFORE BEFORE I WROTE 1289 00:34:06,377 --> 00:34:08,146 "LOSING OUR DIGNITY," NO. 1290 00:34:08,146 --> 00:34:09,013 KNOWING OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM 1291 00:34:09,013 --> 00:34:10,415 MUCH BETTER AFTER DOING THIS 1292 00:34:10,415 --> 00:34:13,718 RESEARCH, I HAVE TO SAY SO MUCH 1293 00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:15,119 IS DIRECTED AT PRODUCING THE 1294 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:16,788 BEST OUTCOME, WHICH IS 1295 00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:18,723 IMPORTANT, BUT FUNDAMENTAL 1296 00:34:18,723 --> 00:34:19,490 RIGHTS, INCLUDING RACIAL 1297 00:34:19,490 --> 00:34:20,191 JUSTICE, NEED TO COME FIRST. 1298 00:34:20,191 --> 00:34:22,827 >> Shannon: "LOSING OUR 1299 00:34:22,827 --> 00:34:24,095 DIGNITY" IS A FANTASTIC READ, SO 1300 00:34:24,095 --> 00:34:24,896 IF YOU ARE STRUGGLING WITH THIS 1301 00:34:24,896 --> 00:34:27,165 OR HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, YOU 1302 00:34:27,165 --> 00:34:28,166 SHOULD READ AT. 1303 00:34:28,166 --> 00:34:29,467 CHARLIE, THANKS FOR BEING WITH 1304 00:34:29,467 --> 00:34:29,834 US. 1305 00:34:29,834 --> 00:34:30,000 >> THANKS, SHANNON. 1306 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,169 >> THANKS, SHANNON. 1307 00:34:31,169 --> 00:34:32,003 >> Shannon: A WHALE OF A TAIL 1308 00:34:32,003 --> 00:34:33,104 HITTING THE COURT ROOM. 1309 00:34:33,104 --> 00:34:34,572 WHAT IS SO DANGEROUS ABOUT THESE 1310 00:34:34,572 --> 00:34:36,607 OCEAN CUTIES? 1311 00:34:36,607 --> 00:34:44,282 YOU SEE THE SMILES, SEE 1312 00:34:44,282 --> 00:34:48,052 ♪ ♪ 1313 00:34:48,052 --> 00:34:49,053 >> Shannon: A WHIMSICAL WHALE 1314 00:34:49,053 --> 00:34:50,922 IS AT THE CENTER OF TONIGHT'S 1315 00:34:50,922 --> 00:34:52,790 "NIGHT COURT." 1316 00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:54,158 CLOSING RETAILER VINEYARD VINES 1317 00:34:54,158 --> 00:34:55,593 IS TAKING LAKE SHIRTS TO COURT 1318 00:34:55,593 --> 00:34:57,929 FOR COPYRIGHT AND 1319 00:34:57,929 --> 00:34:58,663 INFRINGEMENT. 1320 00:34:58,663 --> 00:35:00,000 LAKE SHIRT WHALE DESIGN SOLD IN 1321 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,432 LAKE SHIRT WHALE DESIGN SOLD IN 1322 00:35:01,432 --> 00:35:03,935 MAINE AND FLORIDA IS STRIKINGLY 1323 00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:07,538 SIMILAR TO THEIR WHALE LOGO. 1324 00:35:07,538 --> 00:35:08,973 TO SIMILAR, THEY ARGUE. 1325 00:35:08,973 --> 00:35:10,908 LET'S BRING IN FORMER U.S. 1326 00:35:10,908 --> 00:35:11,976 ATTORNEY HARRY LITMAN AND 1327 00:35:11,976 --> 00:35:12,710 WASHINGTON, D.C., TRIAL ATTORNEY 1328 00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:13,778 JOE CAMMARATA. 1329 00:35:13,778 --> 00:35:16,314 THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING WITH 1330 00:35:16,314 --> 00:35:16,814 US. 1331 00:35:16,814 --> 00:35:17,582 >> THANK YOU. 1332 00:35:17,582 --> 00:35:19,584 >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. 1333 00:35:19,584 --> 00:35:21,018 >> Shannon: PEOPLE KNOW, 1334 00:35:21,018 --> 00:35:22,520 EXHIBIT A, THE TWO WHALE 1335 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,855 DESIGNS, YOU CAN SEE WHETHER YOU 1336 00:35:23,855 --> 00:35:25,056 THINK THEY ARE TOO SIMILAR OR 1337 00:35:25,056 --> 00:35:28,559 NOT, BUT LET'S TAKE YOU TO THE 1338 00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:29,327 COMPLAINT. 1339 00:35:29,327 --> 00:35:30,000 IT SAYS "SUCH MIMICRY IS LIKELY 1340 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,628 IT SAYS "SUCH MIMICRY IS LIKELY 1341 00:35:30,628 --> 00:35:34,799 TO LEAD TO CONFUSION AS TO THE 1342 00:35:34,799 --> 00:35:36,467 SOURCE, SPONSORSHIP, OR OTHER 1343 00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:39,537 COMMERCIAL AND AFFILIATION OF 1344 00:35:39,537 --> 00:35:40,738 THE CLOTHING WITH VINEYARD VINES 1345 00:35:40,738 --> 00:35:42,974 AND ITS CLOTHING GOODS." 1346 00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:43,274 HARRY? 1347 00:35:43,274 --> 00:35:44,942 >> THAT HAS TO BE THE QUESTION. 1348 00:35:44,942 --> 00:35:46,110 THESE GUYS, SHANNON, ARE ON 1349 00:35:46,110 --> 00:35:48,746 WHALE WATCH ALL OVER THE 1350 00:35:48,746 --> 00:35:49,313 COUNTRY. 1351 00:35:49,313 --> 00:35:50,381 THEY ARE REPEAT PLAYERS. 1352 00:35:50,381 --> 00:35:51,849 THEY SUE EVERYBODY, INCLUDING 1353 00:35:51,849 --> 00:35:53,618 HERE, THE SUIT THEY DROPPED 1354 00:35:53,618 --> 00:35:54,352 AGAINST A RETAILER THAT GOT 1355 00:35:54,352 --> 00:35:55,786 SCARED AND SAID "ALL RIGHT, WE 1356 00:35:55,786 --> 00:35:57,855 WON'T SELL THEM ANYMORE," BUT 1357 00:35:57,855 --> 00:35:59,257 THE QUESTION IS, IT'S NOT OUR 1358 00:35:59,257 --> 00:36:00,000 THESE CUTE WHALES, DO THEY HAVE 1359 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,025 THESE CUTE WHALES, DO THEY HAVE 1360 00:36:01,025 --> 00:36:04,028 SOME SIMILARITIES, IT IS WHAT A 1361 00:36:04,028 --> 00:36:05,429 CONSUMER GO IN AND BE CONFUSED 1362 00:36:05,429 --> 00:36:07,031 AND THINK, OH, THIS IS A 1363 00:36:07,031 --> 00:36:09,834 VINEYARD VINES SHIRT. 1364 00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:10,568 THEY WOULDN'T. 1365 00:36:10,568 --> 00:36:11,135 IT'S DIFFERENT. 1366 00:36:11,135 --> 00:36:13,538 IF ONE HAS A SPOUT, THEY LOOK 1367 00:36:13,538 --> 00:36:14,739 DIFFERENT, THEY DON'T SAY 1368 00:36:14,739 --> 00:36:15,806 "VINEYARD VINES" UNDER IT, AND 1369 00:36:15,806 --> 00:36:17,808 THAT IS WHY THEY SHOULD LOSE, 1370 00:36:17,808 --> 00:36:19,477 BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY ARE 1371 00:36:19,477 --> 00:36:20,678 DOING IT TO WIN OR LOSE IT BUT 1372 00:36:20,678 --> 00:36:23,247 TO SORT OF TERRORIZE AND MAKE 1373 00:36:23,247 --> 00:36:25,016 PEOPLE BACK DOWN, BUT WITH A 1374 00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:25,683 LEGAL QUESTION IS, WHAT A 1375 00:36:25,683 --> 00:36:27,752 CONSUMER ACTUALLY THINK IT IS 1376 00:36:27,752 --> 00:36:28,419 THEIR SHIRT? 1377 00:36:28,419 --> 00:36:29,987 I DON'T THINK SO. 1378 00:36:29,987 --> 00:36:30,000 >> Shannon: TO THAT POINT, 1379 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,188 >> Shannon: TO THAT POINT, 1380 00:36:31,188 --> 00:36:33,357 EXHIBIT C, THIS IS TALKING ABOUT 1381 00:36:33,357 --> 00:36:34,825 THE PERCEIVED DIFFERENCES IN 1382 00:36:34,825 --> 00:36:37,428 THESE TWO, IT SAYS "THE ALLEGED 1383 00:36:37,428 --> 00:36:38,863 IMITATION HAS A CIRCLE AROUND IF 1384 00:36:38,863 --> 00:36:40,798 I COME UP WITH THE BRAND NAME 1385 00:36:40,798 --> 00:36:42,934 WHALE HAS MORE OF A 1386 00:36:42,934 --> 00:36:45,036 CRESCENT-SHAPED EYELID. 1387 00:36:45,036 --> 00:36:51,142 THE BODY SHAPES DON'T MATCH, HAS 1388 00:36:51,142 --> 00:36:54,579 A PROTRUDING BUMP ON ITS 1389 00:36:54,579 --> 00:36:55,746 FOREHEAD AND A SECOND PUMP 1390 00:36:55,746 --> 00:36:56,747 HAPPILY TO ITS TAIL. 1391 00:36:56,747 --> 00:36:57,748 ONE BUMP TO THE FACE WITH A 1392 00:36:57,748 --> 00:37:00,000 SMOOTH TRANSITION TO BE TAIL. 1393 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,385 SMOOTH TRANSITION TO BE TAIL. 1394 00:37:01,385 --> 00:37:04,522 THE LIPS AND SMIRK DIFFER, TOO. 1395 00:37:04,522 --> 00:37:06,390 JOE? 1396 00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:08,359 >> THEY SAY NO MATTER HOW THIN 1397 00:37:08,359 --> 00:37:09,493 YOU MAKE A PANCAKE, THERE'S 1398 00:37:09,493 --> 00:37:11,562 ALWAYS ANOTHER SIDE TO IT, SO 1399 00:37:11,562 --> 00:37:12,763 I'M GLAD I GET ANOTHER SIDE. 1400 00:37:12,763 --> 00:37:14,832 THE FACT THEY HAVE BEEN AWARDED 1401 00:37:14,832 --> 00:37:17,134 TRADEMARK PROTECTION, WHICH 1402 00:37:17,134 --> 00:37:18,402 ALLOWS THEM TO DETERMINE HOW 1403 00:37:18,402 --> 00:37:19,303 THEIR MARKET IS PRESENTED TO THE 1404 00:37:19,303 --> 00:37:20,338 PUBLIC. 1405 00:37:20,338 --> 00:37:22,139 AND THEY ARE NOT TERRORIZING 1406 00:37:22,139 --> 00:37:23,441 ANYBODY WHEN SOMEBODY CREATES A 1407 00:37:23,441 --> 00:37:24,942 WHALE THAT IS SIMILAR. 1408 00:37:24,942 --> 00:37:27,044 THE SUGGESTION THAT, WELL, YOU 1409 00:37:27,044 --> 00:37:29,814 KNOW, THIS WHALE, THE SECOND 1410 00:37:29,814 --> 00:37:30,000 WHALE, HAS GOT WATER COMING OUT 1411 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,115 WHALE, HAS GOT WATER COMING OUT 1412 00:37:31,115 --> 00:37:33,784 OF ITS HEAD OR DOESN'T HAVE AN 1413 00:37:33,784 --> 00:37:34,752 EYEBROW, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE -- 1414 00:37:34,752 --> 00:37:38,022 THE ISSUE IS NOT IDENTICAL, IS 1415 00:37:38,022 --> 00:37:39,457 ONE IDENTICAL TO THE OTHER? 1416 00:37:39,457 --> 00:37:41,259 THE ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT A 1417 00:37:41,259 --> 00:37:41,959 PUBLIC CAN BE CONFUSED. 1418 00:37:41,959 --> 00:37:44,795 WHEN YOU THINK OF A WHALE, YOU 1419 00:37:44,795 --> 00:37:45,963 THINK OF THE WHIMSICAL WHALE OF 1420 00:37:45,963 --> 00:37:46,597 VINEYARD VINES. 1421 00:37:46,597 --> 00:37:47,765 YOU DON'T THINK OF SOMETHING 1422 00:37:47,765 --> 00:37:48,065 ELSE. 1423 00:37:48,065 --> 00:37:51,702 AND SO, UNDER THE LAW, THEY HAVE 1424 00:37:51,702 --> 00:37:53,204 QUITE A PROTECTION THAT THEY ARE 1425 00:37:53,204 --> 00:37:56,507 AFFORDED TO CLAMPDOWN ON PEOPLE 1426 00:37:56,507 --> 00:38:00,000 THAT ARE ENCROACHING UPON THEIR 1427 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,177 THAT ARE ENCROACHING UPON THEIR 1428 00:38:00,177 --> 00:38:00,778 LEGALLY PROTECTED MARK. 1429 00:38:00,778 --> 00:38:02,113 >> Shannon: YEAH, AND THERE 1430 00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:03,481 WERE ESSENTIALLY TWO DEFENDANTS 1431 00:38:03,481 --> 00:38:03,781 HERE. 1432 00:38:03,781 --> 00:38:06,217 THERE WAS ONE, WHICH WAS A STORE 1433 00:38:06,217 --> 00:38:07,952 THAT WAS CARRYING THESE T-SHIRTS 1434 00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:09,220 THAT ARE MADE BY THE MAKER, SO 1435 00:38:09,220 --> 00:38:10,021 THE STORE STOPPED SELLING THEM, 1436 00:38:10,021 --> 00:38:11,455 AS YOU MENTION, THAT MEANS THEY 1437 00:38:11,455 --> 00:38:13,124 ARE OUT AND IT IS JUST DOWN TO 1438 00:38:13,124 --> 00:38:13,624 THE T-SHIRT MAKER. 1439 00:38:13,624 --> 00:38:16,093 THEY ARE THE ONLY WANTS STILL ON 1440 00:38:16,093 --> 00:38:17,895 THE HOOK. 1441 00:38:17,895 --> 00:38:19,230 TUNNEL ARGUMENTS TO HARRY AND 1442 00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:19,964 THEN JOE THEN JOE. 1443 00:38:19,964 --> 00:38:23,934 >> JOE HAS IT RIGHT, BUT THE 1444 00:38:23,934 --> 00:38:25,269 LEGAL STANDARD, WOULD SOMEONE 1445 00:38:25,269 --> 00:38:26,137 REALLY BE CONFUSED -- NOT IS 1446 00:38:26,137 --> 00:38:27,405 THIS A WHIMSICAL WHALE, BUT 1447 00:38:27,405 --> 00:38:30,000 WOULD SOMEBODY THINK, OH, THAT 1448 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,041 WOULD SOMEBODY THINK, OH, THAT 1449 00:38:30,041 --> 00:38:31,809 IS A VINEYARD VINES SHIRT? 1450 00:38:31,809 --> 00:38:32,143 NO WAY. 1451 00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:33,577 >> Shannon: JOE? 1452 00:38:33,577 --> 00:38:35,780 >> LOOK, WHEN YOU SEE AN 1453 00:38:35,780 --> 00:38:37,415 ALLIGATOR, YOU THINK OF LOW COST 1454 00:38:37,415 --> 00:38:38,215 OR IZOD. 1455 00:38:38,215 --> 00:38:39,850 WHEN YOU SEE A MAN ON A HORSE, 1456 00:38:39,850 --> 00:38:42,286 YOU THINK OF POLO, AND YOU SEE A 1457 00:38:42,286 --> 00:38:45,723 WHALE, YOU THINK OF VINEYARD 1458 00:38:45,723 --> 00:38:46,624 VINES. 1459 00:38:46,624 --> 00:38:48,359 IT IS JUST THAT SIMPLE. 1460 00:38:48,359 --> 00:38:50,995 IT CAN CREATE SOME CONFUSION, 1461 00:38:50,995 --> 00:38:53,197 AND IF IT CAN LIKELY CREATE SOME 1462 00:38:53,197 --> 00:38:54,632 SORT CONFUSION, THEY WIN, AND I 1463 00:38:54,632 --> 00:38:55,866 THINK THEY WILL WIN HERE. 1464 00:38:55,866 --> 00:38:56,901 >> Shannon: WE WILL TRACK THE 1465 00:38:56,901 --> 00:38:58,002 CASE AND LET FOLKS KNOW. 1466 00:38:58,002 --> 00:38:59,203 IN THE MEANTIME, HARRY AND JOE 1467 00:38:59,203 --> 00:39:00,000 COME HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. 1468 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,172 COME HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND. 1469 00:39:01,172 --> 00:39:01,839 THANK YOU BOTH. 1470 00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:04,542 >> HEY, THANK YOU BOTH. 1471 00:39:04,542 --> 00:39:05,543 >> Shannon: GOOD NEWS BEFORE 1472 00:39:05,543 --> 00:39:07,678 WE'D SAY GOOD NIGHT, 17-YEAR-OLD 1473 00:39:07,678 --> 00:39:09,580 BREAKING THE INTERNET AFTER 1474 00:39:09,580 --> 00:39:12,583 TURNING HIS BROTHER'S BUS STOP 1475 00:39:12,583 --> 00:39:14,385 INTO A SHOWSTOPPER. 1476 00:39:14,385 --> 00:39:15,753 ELABORATE COSTUMES, SIX MONTHS 1477 00:39:15,753 --> 00:39:17,588 STRAIGHT, GOING OFF TO COLLEGE. 1478 00:39:17,588 --> 00:39:20,991 AS WORD SPREAD ABOUT THIS -- OH, 1479 00:39:20,991 --> 00:39:21,759 NO, NOT THAT OUTFIT. 1480 00:39:21,759 --> 00:39:23,728 HE HAS BEEN TRANSFORMING IT, 1481 00:39:23,728 --> 00:39:25,996 EVERYTHING HAS BEEN BUZZ 1482 00:39:25,996 --> 00:39:27,698 BUZZ LIGHTYEAR, CHEWBACCA WAS A 1483 00:39:27,698 --> 00:39:29,200 FAVORITE, AND THE KIDS LOVE IT, 1484 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,000 BUT OF COURSE, IT IS 1485 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,301 BUT OF COURSE, IT IS 1486 00:39:30,301 --> 00:39:31,936 EMBARRASSING. 1487 00:39:31,936 --> 00:39:34,371 KEVIN, THE SIBLINGS LOVE TO 1488 00:39:34,371 --> 00:39:35,139 EMBARRASS EACH OTHER. 1489 00:39:35,139 --> 00:39:36,006 >> THAT IS DEFINITELY 1490 00:39:36,006 --> 00:39:37,007 EMBARRASSING. 1491 00:39:37,007 --> 00:39:37,508 LEAVE IT AT THAT. 1492 00:39:37,508 --> 00:39:38,542 I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU TO 1493 00:39:38,542 --> 00:39:40,411 BEAUTIFUL ARIZONA FOR THIS GOOD 1494 00:39:40,411 --> 00:39:41,178 NEWS GOOD NIGHT, SHANNON, THIS 1495 00:39:41,178 --> 00:39:43,614 IS WHERE WE FIND AN 8-MONTH-OLD 1496 00:39:43,614 --> 00:39:43,914 GOAT. 1497 00:39:43,914 --> 00:39:46,117 ACTUALLY FREED BY THE ARIZONA 1498 00:39:46,117 --> 00:39:48,319 HUMANE SOCIETY DURING A TWO-DAY 1499 00:39:48,319 --> 00:39:49,320 RESCUE OPERATION. 1500 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,521 THE ANIMAL ACTUALLY FELL INTO AN 1501 00:39:50,521 --> 00:39:52,757 IRRIGATION PIPE IN WEST PHOENIX. 1502 00:39:52,757 --> 00:39:54,925 A HOMEOWNER HERD THE GOATS CRY 1503 00:39:54,925 --> 00:39:56,026 COMING FROM UNDERGROUND. 1504 00:39:56,026 --> 00:39:58,763 THEY USED A SNAKE CAMERA, PVC 1505 00:39:58,763 --> 00:40:00,000 PIPES, SHOVELS, A SLEDGEHAMMER, 1506 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:00,164 PIPES, SHOVELS, A SLEDGEHAMMER, 1507 00:40:00,164 --> 00:40:02,933 THEY RESCUED THE GOAT. 1508 00:40:02,933 --> 00:40:03,801 THANK YOU, HUMANE SOCIETY. 1509 00:40:03,801 --> 00:40:04,568 >> Shannon: BABY GOATS ARE SO 1510 00:40:04,568 --> 00:40:06,403 CUTE, BUT I CAN'T BELIEVE I 1511 00:40:06,403 --> 00:40:07,838 SPENT TWO DAYS DOING THAT. 1512 00:40:07,838 --> 00:40:08,906 I'M GLAD HE IS OUT AND THANKS TO 1513 00:40:08,906 --> 00:40:10,775 ALL OF THE HUMANS WHO HELD. 1514 00:40:10,775 --> 00:40:11,409 THANK YOU, KEVIN. 1515 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:12,710 HAVE A