"FOX NEWS @ NIGHT" WITH
SHANNON BREAM IS NEXT.
AND GREG GUTFELD, AND I LOVE
YOU, AMERICA!
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>> Shannon: HELLO, AND WELCOME
TO "FOX NEWS @ NIGHT," I'M
SHANNON BREAM IN NEW YORK.
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BREAKING TONIGHT AS DAVE BREAKS
IN KABUL, BRAND-NEW DISTRESSING
VIDEOS SENT TO FOX NEWS SHOWS AT
THE SCENE OUTSIDE THE AIRPORTS
AS A CRUSH OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING
CHILDREN, TRY HELPLESSLY TO GET
INSIDE THE SAFETY, AS SHOTS ARE
HEARD IN THE BACKGROUND AND GAS
IS DEPLOYED.
ALSO BREAKING, THREE U.S. ARMY
HELICOPTERS HAVE RESCUED 169
AMERICANS FROM A HOTEL OUTSIDE
THE AIRPORT IN KABUL.
THIS COMES HOURS AFTER
PRESIDENT BIDEN CLAIMED
AMERICANS WERE NOT HAVING ISSUES
GETTING THROUGH THE TALIBAN
BLOCKADE.
>> WE HAVE NO INDICATION THAT
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET IN
KABUL THROUGH THE AIRPORT.
WE HAVE MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH
THE TALIBAN THUS FAR.
>> Shannon: OTHER PARTS OF THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAVE
CONCEDED THAT DOES NOT LINE UP
WITH THE REALITY FOR SOME ON THE
GROUND, AS THE WHITE HOUSE
ADMITS IT IS UNSURE HOW MANY
AMERICANS ARE IN NEED OF
EVACUATION FROM AFGHANISTAN, AND
THE PENTAGON CORRECTS THE
COMMANDER IN CHIEF ON HIS CLAIMS
THAT AL QAEDA IS "GONE," AND THE
U.S. WILL BE ABLE TO MONITOR THE
TERROR THREAT TO AMERICANS FROM
AFAR.
>> LOOK, LET'S PUT THIS THING IN
PERSPECTIVE HERE.
WHAT INTEREST DO WE HAVE IN
AFGHANISTAN AT THIS POINT, WITH
AL QAEDA GONE?
>> AL QAEDA IS A PRESENCE, AS
WELL AS ISIS, IN AFGHANISTAN.
AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT
FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
WE DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS
EXORBITANTLY HIGH, BUT WE DON'T
HAVE AN EXACT FIGURE.
>> THE THREAT FROM TERRORISM HAS
METASTASIZED.
THERE'S A GREATER DANGER FROM
ISIS AND AL QAEDA AND ALL THESE
AFFILIATES IN OTHER COUNTRIES,
BY FAR, THEN THERE IS FROM
AFGHANISTAN.
AND WE ARE GOING TO RETAIN THE
RISING CAPABILITY THAT THEY WERE
GOING TO COME BACK TO BE ABLE T,
SURGICALLY REMOVED.
>> OUR ABILITY, OUR INTELLIGENCE
GATHERING ABILITY IN AFGHANISTAN
ISN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE BECAUSE
WE AREN'T THERE, WITH THE SAME
NUMBERS THAT WE USED TO BE.
>> Shannon: PRESIDENT BIDEN
ALSO PUSHING BACK AGAINST CLAIMS
THAT AMERICA'S CREDIBILITY HAS
BEEN DIMINISHED.
JUST DAYS AFTER BRITISH
PRIME MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON
ADMITTED THE U.S. PULLOUT LEFT
U.K. AND NATO FORCES WITH NO
CHOICE BUT TO DO THE SAME.
LEADING A MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT
TO CALL THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF
SHAMEFUL.
>> I HAVE SEEN NO QUESTION OF
OUR CREDIBILITY FROM OUR ALLIES
AROUND THE WORLD TO.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, I
HAVE NOT SEEN THAT.
MATTER OF FACT, THE EXACT
OPPOSITE.
>> Shannon: ALL THIS JUST A
DAY AFTER THE E.U. FOREIGN
POLICY CHIEF CALLED THE FALL OF
TO A CATASTROPHE A NIGHTMARE.
ADDING THAT IT EXPOSED A FAILURE
OF INTELLIGENCE IN TRANSATLANTIC
COOPERATION.
MEANWHILE, ON THE GROUND IN
KABUL, HARROWING IMAGES SHOW THE
DESPERATION THAT LED TO THIS
MOMENT, WHEN A U.S. MARINE
LIFTED AFGHAN BABY OVER A BARBED
WIRE WALL TO SAFETY.
THERE ARE REPORTS TONIGHT THAT
THE TALIBAN ARE GOING DOOR TO
DOOR AND MORE IN THEIR SEARCH
FOR U.S. ALLIES.
CORRESPONDENT BENJAMIN HALL
REPORTS TONIGHT FROM LONDON.
>> THE KABUL AIRPORT IS TOTALLY
SURROUNDED.
THOUSANDS OF DESPERATE PEOPLE
ARE BEGGING TO GET IN AND
BEGGING FOR HELP, BUT IT IS
OVERWHELMED.
>> YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A LOT OF
PEOPLE HERE.
WE NEED -- WE NEED SUPPORT, WE
ALL NEED SUPPORT.
THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD DESERVE
AFTER SERVING FOR A WHILE.
I'M CALLING ON EVERYONE.
I'M BLEEDING ALL OVER.
>> ALL THE WHILE, THE TALIBAN
ARE STRENGTHENING THEIR'S GRIP
ON THE CITY.
MORE CHECKPOINTS ARE BEING
REPORTED, MORE DOOR-TO-DOOR
SEARCHES FOR PEOPLE WHO WORKED
FOR THE AMERICANS.
REPORTS SOME HAVE BEEN HANGED
AND FEAR IS GROWING.
>> I SERVED MY LIFE, OVER TEN
YEARS, OVER A DECADE, I SERVED
WITH THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.
NOW, WHAT HAPPENS TO MY FAMILY?
I SERVED BASICALLY ONE-THIRD OF
MY LIFE WITH THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT, AND NOW I AM NOT
EVEN ABLE TO SAVE MY OWN FAMILY,
MY OWN BLOOD.
>> FOR NOW, THE U.S. IS STILL
RELYING ON THE TALIBAN TO
PROVIDE SAFE PASSAGE TO THE
AIRPORT.
BUT WITH NO IDEA HOW MANY
AMERICANS ARE LEFT IN
AFGHANISTAN, NO IDEA HOW LONG
THE DEAL WITH THE TALIBAN WILL
LAST, THINGS ARE LOOKING BLEAK.
>> THE TALIBAN WILL KILL YOU
BECAUSE YOU ARE A WOMAN AND
WORKING ON TV.
>> OUTSIDE KABUL, THERE IS MORE
TOTALITY AND OPPRESSION.
REPORTS INDICATE THE MILITANTS
ARE SUMMARILY EXECUTING PEOPLE
WHO HELPED U.S. FORCES, BUT
DESPITE THIS, A REMARKABLE
SCENE, BRAVE AFGHANS IN SEVERAL
CITIES STILL DEFIANTLY CARRIED
AFGHAN FLAG THROUGH THE STREETS.
THE TALIBAN OPEN FIRE AND KILLED
SOME OF THEM, TOO.
THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE LOOKING
TO THE U.S. FOR HELP RIGHT NOW,
LOOKING FOR HELP IN GETTING OUT.
THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE WE HAVE
SPOKEN TO WHO ARE RESIGNED TO
THEIR FATE.
NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT THE
FUTURE THERE WILL LOOK LIKE.
NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE NEXT FEW
DAYS WILL LOOK LIKE.
SHANNON?
>> Shannon: BENJAMIN,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AS THE U.S. SCRAMBLES TO
EVACUATE AMERICANS AND AFGHANS
WHO DIRECTLY ASSISTED US OUT OF
AFGHANISTAN, COMMUNITIES HERE
ARE AT HOME ARE PREPARING TO
RESETTLE UP TO 30,000 OF
THOSE AFGHANS WHO HELPED OUR
SOLDIERS AND ARE FORTUNATE
ENOUGH TO ESCAPE THE TALIBAN.
HUNDREDS OF THEM WILL WIND UP
INITIALLY IN TEXAS, WHERE SENIOR
CORRESPONDENT CASEY STEGALL
PICKS UP A STORY FOR US TONIGHT.
GOOD EVENING, CASEY.
>> SHANNON, ON FRIDAY, THE
PENTAGON SAYS IT IS NOW
PREPARING TO HOW WAS UP TO
22,000 AFGHAN REFUGEES HERE IN
THE UNITED STATES AND,
SPECIFICALLY, FOR NOW, AT THREE
DIFFERENT MILITARY
INSTALLATIONS.
FORT BLISS, WHICH IS LOCATED IN
EL PASO, THESE SITES WILL BE COD
INTO TEMPORARY HOUSING UNITS,
MUCH LIKE WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE
WITH MIGRANTS ALONG THE SOUTHERN
BORDER.
FORT McCOY IS THE SECOND,
THAT'S IN WISCONSIN.
IT STANDS READY TO TAKE IN
REFUGEES, THOSE LUCKY ENOUGH TO
HAVE MADE IT OUT OF THE WAR TORN
COUNTRY.
IN ALL, 19 DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES
AROUND THE COUNTRY WILL TAKE
PEOPLE IN UNDER SPECIAL VISAS,
WITH THOUSANDS OF CHARITY
ORGANIZATIONS HELPING TO WORK
OUT THE LOGISTICS AND FUNDING.
>> PEOPLE GO BACK AND FORTH OF
WHOSE FAULT THIS IS, AND WE'VE
GOT 20 YEARS OF BLAME TO GO
AROUND FOR OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY
AND THE CITIZENRY OF IT OF WHAT
HAPPENED IN AFGHANISTAN.
SO RIGHT NOW, WE NEED TO FIGURE
OUT HOW TO GET PEOPLE OUT.
>> HUNDREDS BEGAN ARRIVING
EARLIER THIS WEEK IN THE
WASHINGTON, D.C., AREA VIRGINIA,
MARYLAND, ON DIRECT FLIGHTS FROM
KABUL, FORT LEE IN VIRGINIA IS E
THIRD THAT WILL TAKE PEOPLE IN.
AUTHORITIES SAY THAT MANY OF
THESE REFUGEES WORKED AS
CONTRACTORS AND ASSISTED THE
U.S. MILITARY ON THE GROUND IN
AFGHANISTAN.
SO TAKING CARE OF THEM, OF
COURSE, IS VERY IMPORTANT.
STILL UNKNOWN, THE COST OF ALL
OF THIS.
AS WE SAID, RIGHT NOW, MANY
DIFFERENT CHARITABLE GROUPS ARE
STEPPING UP.
SHANNON?
>> Shannon: YEAH, CASEY,
GRATEFUL FOR THEM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
PRESIDENT BIDEN FACING A
FIRESTORM OF CRITICISM FROM BOTH
SIDES OF THE AISLE TONIGHT
FOLLOWING HIS REMARKS FRIDAY
AFTERNOON.
WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT
KEVIN CORKE IS BREAKING DOWN THE
ONGOING POLITICAL FALLOUT
TONIGHT AS IT GROWS.
GOOD EVENING, KEVIN.
>> GROWING INDEED.
GOOD EVENING, SHANNON.
IT COULD SHOULD COME AS NO
SURPRISE THAT REPUBLICANS IN
WASHINGTON ARE SHARPENING THEIR
POLITICAL KNIVES AS THE
PRESIDENT, THEY SAY, STUMBLES
HIS WAY THROUGH A COMPLETELY
AVOIDABLE TRAGEDY IN
AFGHANISTAN.
BUT NOW, EVEN SOME SENIOR
DEMOCRATS ARE POINTING FINGERS,
CALLING THE BIDEN EXIT STRATEGY
A CATASTROPHE AND ACCUSING HIM
OF NEGLIGENCE.
>> IF WE LEAVE ONE AMERICAN
BEHIND, IF WE DON'T GET ALL
THOSE AFGHANISTAN -- AFGHANS WHO
STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE AND
HELPED US OUT, THEN JOE BIDEN,
IN MY VIEW, HAS COMMITTED A HIGH
CRIME AND MISDEMEANOR UNDER THE
CONSTITUTION AND SHOULD BE
IMPEACHED.
>> IMPEACHED, THAT IS THE THREAT
FROM SOUTH CAROLINA G.O.P.
SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM,
FOLLOWING THE INEXPLICABLE
DEBACLE CONTINUING TO UNFOLD IN
AFGHANISTAN.
SPARKED, HE SAYS, BY THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION'S POORLY PLANNED
EXIT STRATEGY FROM THE WAR-TORN
COUNTRY.
AND GRAHAM IS NOT ALONE IN
WANTING TO RAISE THE POLITICAL
STAKES COME AS A GROWING LIST OF
REPUBLICANS ARE NOW ADDING THEIR
VOICES TO THE CHORUS OF
CRITICISM, BELIEVING THAT WHAT
BIDEN HAS DONE IS WORTHY OF THE
ULTIMATE POLITICAL SANCTION, IF
NOT OUTRIGHT REMOVAL FROM
OFFICE.
ON THE HOUSE SIDE OF THE
CAPITAL, THE FOREIGN AFFAIRS
COMMITTEE IS SHARPENING ITS GAZE
UPON SECRETARY OF STATE ANTONY
BLINKEN, WRITING TO CONDEMN IN
THE STRONGEST TERMS THE
DEPARTMENT'S SENIOR LEADERSHIP S
DERELICTION OF DUTY REGARDING
AFGHANISTAN.
UNDER YOUR DIRECTION, THE LETTER
CONTINUES, CONTINGENCY PLANNING
BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN
WOEFULLY INADEQUATE, AND NOW, WE
ARE SEEING THE TRAGIC RESULTS.
WORSE YET FOR THE
ADMINISTRATION, IT IS NOT JUST
REPUBLICANS WHO ARE SOUNDING THE
ALARM.
NEW JERSEY DEMOCRAT
SENATOR BOB MENENDEZ SAYS HE IS
DISAPPOINTED THAT THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION CLEARLY DID NOT
ACCURATELY ASSESS THE
IMPLICATIONS OF A RAPID U.S.
WITHDRAWAL.
CONGRESSMAN JIM LANDON BENNETT
OF RHODE ISLAND, WHO HAS SERVED
ON THE HOUSE ARMED SERVICES
COMMITTEE SINCE THE WAR
BEGAN IN 2001, ACCUSED THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION OF NEGLIGENCE, IN
AN OP-ED IN FOREIGN POLICY
MAGAZINE, WRITING, "THE
CONSEQUENCES OF OUR DECISION
TO ABANDON AFGHANISTAN ARE NOW
ON FULL DISPLAY FOR THE WORLD TO
SEE.
IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY."
POINTED CALL THEM, INDEED.
NOW THE HOST FOREIGN RELATIONS
COMMITTEE IS ALSO DEMANDING TO
ANSWERS FROM SECRETARY BLINKEN
AND DEFENSE SECRETARY AUSTIN.
THEY ARE REQUESTING RESPONSES TO
A SERIES OF QUERIES BY
SEPTEMBER THE 3RD.
MEANWHILE, WE FINALLY SAW
VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS
TODAY, STANDING NEXT TO HER BOSS
FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE THE
CRISIS BEGAN, AND WHILE SHE
DIDN'T SAY A WORD ABOUT THE
SITUATION IN AFGHANISTAN THEN,
TONIGHT AT A STOPOVER IN ALASKA
EN ROUTE TO VIETNAM AND
SINGAPORE, SHE OFFERED THIS.
>> WE COULDN'T HAVE A HIGHER
PRIORITY RIGHT NOW, AND IN
PARTICULAR, MY PRIORITY IS
MAKING SURE THAT WE SAFELY
EVACUATE AMERICAN CITIZENS,
AFGHANS WHO WORKED WITH US,
AFGHANS AT RISK, INCLUDING WOMEN
AND CHILDREN, AND THAT IS ONE OF
OUR HIGHEST, IF NOT THE HIGHEST
PRIORITY RIGHT NOW, AND A BIG
AREA OF FOCUS FOR ME.
>> VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS
SPEAKING THERE AT ELMENDORF.
NOW THIS IS A CRISIS THE
ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES TO
STRUGGLE TO SOLVE, AND AS THOSE
PICTURES PROBABLY TELL YOU, A
VICE PRESIDENT INCREASINGLY
LOOKING LIKE SOMEONE WHO WOULD
LIKE TO STEER CLEAR OF THE
FALLOUT, SHANNON.
>> Shannon: WELL, SHE HAS THAT
TRIP AHEAD, AND THE OPTICS OF
BEING IN VIETNAM AT THIS POINT,
SOME ARE QUESTIONING THE WISDOM
OF THAT, BUT NO CHANGES WE ARE
TOLD OF HER PLAN.
WE WILL SEE YOU IN JUST A MINUTE
OR SO MUCH BETTER NEWS, KEVIN.
>> INDEED.
SEE YOU SOON.
>> Shannon: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
LET'S GET SOME PERSPECTIVE ON
WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT AND THIS
CRISIS FROM A FORMER NAVY SEAL
WHO SERVED TWO TOURS IN
AFGHANISTAN, NOW A WISCONSIN
REPUBLICAN, CONGRESSIONAL
CANDIDATE, DERRICK VAN ORDEN,
AND FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR PASTOR
ROBERT JEFFRESS, THANK YOU BOTH
FOR BEING WITH US.
>> YOU ARE WELCOME.
>> THANK YOU SHANNON.
>> Shannon: START WITH A
DEMOCRATIC MEMBER OF CONGRESS
WAS ALSO A VETERAN, CONGRESSMAN
SETH MOULTON, ABOUT THE
SITUATION ON THE GROUND AND WHAT
WE SENT OUR MILITARY BACK INTO.
>> SO, WHEN THE PRESIDENT AND
THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE CLAIM
THEY ARE GIVING EVERY RESOURCE
NECESSARY AND AVAILABLE TO THIS
EFFORT, THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE,
BECAUSE YOU HAVE MARINE
COMMANDERS ON THE GROUND SAYING
THEY ARE STRETCHED THIN, THEY
NEED MORE TROOPS.
>> Shannon: SO, DERRICK
VAN, HOW YOU KNOW THE SITUATIONE
GROUND, HOW THE TALIBAN OPERATE
AND THINK, THIS IS NOT A
PARTISAN ISSUE, WE HAVE
CONGRESSMEN ACROSS THE SPECTRUM
SAYING WE NEED TO DO MORE ON TE
GROUND.
WHAT DO WE DO NOW?
>> THEY MAY BE EQUIPPING THE
TROOPS WITH EVERYTHING THEY NEED
BUT ONE THING THEY WILL NOT BE
ABLE TO EQUIP THEM WITH IS
LEADERSHIP.
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS
ABJECTLY FAILED THE
UNITED STATES MILITARY, THE
AMERICAN CITIZENS IN AFGHA
AFGHANISTAN, OUR COALITION OF
ALLIES, AND THE FOLKS THAT
WORKED WITH US IN THE CONFLICT
THAT I WAS THEREFORE FOR TWO
DIFFERENT TOURS.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW IS BUCKLE
DOWN, THE ENTIRE NATIONAL
SECURITY COUNCIL, AS FAR AS I'M
CONCERNED, SHOULD RESIGN, AND WE
NEED TO GET ON WITH THE
BUSINESS, WHICH IS SAVING
AMERICAN LIVES, IMMEDIATELY.
>> Shannon: THAT'S A PRIORITY,
AND AMONG THOSE LIVES, AS WELL
IN AFGHANISTAN, THERE ARE
CHRISTIANS.
NOT MANY OF THEM, BUT THERE IS A
COMMUNITY THERE, AND THIS IS
WHAT WE ARE HEARING ABOUT THEM.
WE ARE HEARING FROM RELIABLE
SOURCES THAT THE TALIBAN DEMANDS
PEOPLE'S PHONES, AND IF THEY
FIND A DOWNLOADED BIBLE ON YOUR
DEVICE, THEY WILL KILL YOU
IMMEDIATELY.
THAT WAS SAID --
HE SAYS IT IS INCREDIBLY
DANGEROUS RIGHT NOW FOR AFGHANS
TO HAVE ANYTHING CHRISTIAN ON
THEIR PHONES.
THE TALIBAN HAVE SPIES AND
INFORMANTS EVERYWHERE.
PASTOR, IT IS OVERWHELMING TO
WATCH THIS, AND WE KNOW THERE
ARE PEOPLE FOR MANY REASONS WE
NOW FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES,
INCLUDING THE CHRISTIAN
COMMUNITY THERE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT, SHANNON, AND
LOOK TO HIM AS AN AMERICAN, I
CARE ABOUT EVERY ONE OF OUR
CITIZENS BEING RESCUED, BUT AS A
CHRISTIAN PASTOR, I CARE ABOUT
THE EIGHT OR 9,000 AFGHAN
CHRISTIANS WHO ARE FACING
EXTERMINATION BY THE TALIBAN.
AS YOU MENTIONED, THE TALIBAN'S
GOING GOING DOOR TO DOOR ASKING
SPECIFICALLY IF CHRISTIANS ARE
RESIDING IN THAT HOME.
AND LOOK, I WILL LET THE
GEOPOLITICAL EXPERTS DEBATE
WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD HAVE
STAYED IN AFGHANISTAN OR EVEN
BEEN THERE TO BEGIN WITH, BUT
WHAT I CAN SAY WITH ABSOLUTE
AUTHORITY IS WE HAVE A MORAL
OBLIGATION, NOT ONLY TO RESCUE
OUR CITIZENS, YES, BUT ALSO TO
DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT
THESE AFGHAN CHRISTIANS.
LOOK, I KNOW THAT AMERICA CAN'T
DO EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD, BUT
WE CAN DO SOME THINGS, AND
PROTECTING THE SMALL GROUP OF
BELIEVERS IS A BASIC VALUE OF
AMERICA, AND IT'S SOMETHING WE
NEED AND SHOULD DO.
>> Shannon: WELL, AND DERRICK,
I'M TALKING WITH MILITARY FOLKS
ON THE GROUND WHO ARE
DESPERATELY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE
OUT.
THEY SAY THEY ARE AWARE OF
ARRANGEMENTS AND IN CONTACT WITH
PEOPLE THAT ARE CIVILIAN
FLIGHTS, PRIVATE FLIGHTS AND
CHARTERS THAT WILL COME IN AND
GET PEOPLE.
THEY CANNOT GET AIR CLEARANCE
FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
THEY SAY THE ADMINISTRATION
SEEMS TO BE COMPLETELY
DISORGANIZED ON THIS, BUT THERE
ARE PRIVATE ACTORS WHO WANT TO
GO IN AND HELP AS MUCH AS THEY
POSSIBLY CAN.
ANY WAY TO RESOLVE THAT AT THIS
POINT, OTHER THAN PUBLICLY TO
THE STATE DEPARTMENT, WHAT ARE
YOU DOING?
>> RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT IS A
SECONDARY PRIORITY.
EVERYTHING THAT JOE BIDEN SAID
IN THAT PRESS CONFERENCE WAS
INACCURATE, MISINFORMED, OR A
LIE.
THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE THAT
AMERICANS ARE BEING BEATEN IN
THE STREET AND THAT WAS ON
ACCEPTABLE.
GETTING THE AIRCRAFT HAS TO BE
SECONDARY PRIORITY, PRIORITY TO
GETTING THE HUMAN BEINGS, THE
AMERICANS, OUR ALLIES, AND THOSE
THAT WORKED WITH US, ONTO THE
AIRFIELD ITSELF, BECAUSE THAT IS
AT LEAST A PARTIALLY SECURED
SAFE AREA FOR EVERYBODY.
>> Shannon: AND PASTOR, I
WOULD LOVE TO GET A FINAL WORD
FROM YOU ON WHAT YOU SAY TO
PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE REALLY
STRUGGLING WATCHING THESE
IMAGES, FEELING POWERLESS TO
HELP THESE PEOPLE.
WE HAVE COVID RAMPAGING ACROSS
THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD
CONTINUALLY.
PEOPLE ARE REALLY STRUGGLING AND
FEELING PRETTY OVERWHELMED AT
THIS POINT.
>> YEAH, TODAY WE SPONSORED ON
OUR RADIO STATION, A DAY OF HOPE
FOR THE PEOPLE YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT WHO ARE STRUGGLING, AND
LOOK, SHANNON, AS CHRISTIANS, WE
DO NOT NEED TO BE FATALISTIC BUT
WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC.
JESUS WAS REALISTIC, HE SAID IN
THE WORLD YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
PESTILENCE -- ANOTHER WORD FOR
PANDEMIC -- AND WARS, THAT IS
THE WORLD AS IT IS, BUT THANK
GOD IT IS NOT THE WORLD AS IT
WILL ALWAYS BE, THE HOPE OF
CHRISTIANITY FOR 2,000 YEARS HAS
BEEN THAT JESUS IS COMING BACK
AGAIN TO RID THIS WORLD ONCE AND
FOR ALL OF EVIL.
BUT UNTIL THEN, THERE WILL BE NO
LASTING PEACE UNTIL THE
PRINCE OF PEACE HAS COME.
HE IS COMING, SHANNON.
THAT IS THE HOPE OF EVERY AFGHAN
TONIGHT WHO IS A CHRISTIAN, IT'S
THE HOPE OF EVERY CHRISTIAN IN
THE WORLD TONIGHT.
>> Shannon: YEAH, AND PRAYERS
ACROSS ALL KINDS OF
DENOMINATIONAL MINES TONIGHT
WERE PEOPLE THERE IN
AFGHANISTAN.
HE MENTIONED THE EARTHQUAKES,
HAITI, THEY ARE GETTING LOST IN
THE HEADLINES, AND THOSE
SUFFERING AROUND THE WORLD FROM
COVID AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS
AND PERSECUTIONS.
WE SHOULD ALL BE PRAYING FOR
EACH OTHER.
PASTOR, THANK YOU.
DERRICK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
TIME TONIGHT.
>> YES, MA'AM.
>> THANK YOU SHANNON.
>> Shannon: BACK HERE AT HOME,
DOMESTIC CRIME CONCERNS FRONT
AND CENTER TONIGHT AS WE HEAD
INTO ANOTHER HOT SUMMER WEEKEND.
CITY OFFICIALS IN MINNEAPOLIS
TAKE ANOTHER STEP FORWARD IN
THEIR PUSH TO POTENTIALLY
ABOLISH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT,
AT LEAST AS THEY KNOW IT NOW.
CORRESPONDENT CHARLES WATSON IS
WORKING TONIGHT'S CRIME BEAT.
GOOD EVENING, CHARLES.
>> HI, SHANNON.
AS CRIME SPIKES AND SOME OF THE
NATION'S LARGEST CITIES,
MINNEAPOLIS TONIGHT IS ONE STEP
CLOSER TO DECIDING WHETHER OR
NOT IT WILL ABOLISH THE CITY'S
POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THE MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL
APPROVING LANGUAGE TO BE
INCLUDED IN A NOVEMBER BALLOT
MEASURE THAT WILL ASK VOTERS TO
DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO REPLACE
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH A NEW
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY,
EVEN AS VIOLENT CRIME SURGES IN
THE CITY.
MAYOR JACOB FREY ATTEMPTED AND
FAILED TO VETO LANGUAGE IN THE
BALLOT MEASURE SAYING IT DIDN'T
GO FAR ENOUGH IN EXPLAINING TO
VOTERS OF THE OF THEIR
DECISIONS, SUCH AS THE REMOVAL
OF MINIMUM POLICE STAFFING
REQUIREMENTS.
PROTESTERS HAVE CALLED ON
LAWMAKERS TO DEFUND THE POLICE
FORCE FOLLOWING THE DEATH OF
GEORGE FLOYD AT THE HANDS OF
CONVICTED FORMER MINNEAPOLIS
POLICE OFFICER DEREK CHAUVIN.
HERE IS WHAT THE MAYOR HAD TO
SAY ABOUT THE ISSUE ON THURSDAY.
>> MY POSITION HAS NOT MOVED AN
INCH.
WE NEED TO ROOT OUT SYSTEMIC
RACISM IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE NEED A FULL ON CULTURE SHIFT.
WE NEED ADDITIONAL
ACCOUNTABILITY.
WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO
POLICING SO THAT WE HAVE SAFETY
BEYOND POLICING.
BUT TO THE QUESTION AS TO
WHETHER I WAS GOING TO DEFUND
AND GET RID OF POLICE, MY ANSWER
WAS NO.
>> IN THE MEANTIME,
NEW YORK CITY, THE NYPD IS
GRAPPLING WITH AN INCREASE IN CE
OF THEIR OWN.
THE DEPARTMENT SAYING IT IS
LOOKING FOR THESE GUYS CAPTURED
ON VIDEO VIOLENTLY ATTACKING A
MAN.
POLICE SAY AS MANY AS FIVE OF
THE UNKNOWN SUSPECTS ARE SEEN ON
MULTIPLE OCCASIONS THIS MONTH
ATTACKING INNOCENT BYSTANDERS
AND ROBBING THEM OF THEIR
PROPERTY IN QUEENS.
OVER TO CHICAGO, WHERE POLICE
ARE HUNTING DOWN THE PEOPLE
RESPONSIBLE FOR SHOOTING A
9-YEAR-OLD IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.
THE BOY WAS SHOT IN THE FOREARM
AND WAS TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL IN
STABLE CONDITION.
822-YEAR-OLD MAN WAS ALSO SHOT
IN THE LEG.
HIS CONDITION IS UNKNOWN.
AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE
LATEST INCIDENTS CONTRIBUTING TO
A WAVE OF CRIME IN SOME OF THE
NATION'S BIG CITIES, WHERE
HOMICIDES AND GUN ASSAULTS ON
AVERAGE ARE UP 16% AND 5%
RESPECTIVELY, ACCORDING TO THE
COUNCIL ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE.
AND SHANNON, AMERICANS ARE
WORRIED, ACCORDING TO THE LATEST
FOX NEWS POLL, 81% OF AMERICANS
SAY THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
VIOLENT CRIME THEY ARE SEEING.
SHANNON, BACK TO YOU.
>> Shannon: CHARLES, THANK YOU
SO MUCH.
ALL RIGHT, REMEMBER THOSE CREEPY
HUMANOID ROBOT THINGIES?
WELL, THEY ARE BACK IN GOING TO
BE A WHOLE LOT MORE ADVANCED
PEER CHECK OUT THAT MODEL.
AND THE HAIR-RAISING MOMENT A
MAN TRYING TO MAKE A POT OF
COFFEE COMES FACE-TO-FACE WITH
AN ANGRY LION GROWLING AT HIM.
WE ARE GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT
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>> Shannon: HAVE YOU GOT
NERVES OF STEEL?
CHECK OUT THIS OPEN TILL THEN,
NO DOORS, WINDOWS HAVE MESH
COVERING, SO NO BIG DEAL IF A
LION IS STANDING OUTSIDE
GROWLING, RIGHT?
ACTUALLY KIND OF A BIG DEAL BUT
ALL IN A DAY'S WORK FOR AN
SOUTH AFRICAN NATURE DIED, HE
KEPT HIS CALM AND EVEN FILM
THE TENSE MOMENT, APPARENTLY THE
LION WAS PURSUING A LADY LION
NEARBY, THE LION EVENTUALLY
MOVED ON, GAVE EVERYONE A WHOLE
LOT TO TALK ABOUT OVER BREAKFAST
COME ALL SAFE AND SOUND.
THE GLOVES ARE OFF, IT IS GOING
DOWN.
SCRAPPING ON A RIVERBANK,
SCUFFLE OVER QUICKLY.
YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A THIRD
BUCK STANDING THERE, NOT GETTING
INVOLVED.
NOW THIS.
BREAKING NEWS OUT OF
SILICON VALLEY, ELON MUSK HAS
APPARENTLY NEVER SEEN I ROBOT OR
ANY TERMINATOR MOVIE, BECAUSE
THE TESLA CEO IS UNVEILING PLANS
TO BUILD THIS HUMANOID ROBOT FOR
GENERAL-PURPOSE USE.
I THINK THAT IS A HUMAN BEING.
ANYWAY, GET READY, BECAUSE WE
ALL KNOW HOW THIS SHOW ENDS.
THE COMPANY'S AS A PROTOTYPE
MIGHT BE READY IN ABOUT A YEAR.
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CONVINCE ME
THAT IS NOT A HUMAN.
IF THAT IS A ROBOT, WE ARE IN
BIG TROUBLE, BUT I THINK THAT
WAS JUST A DEMONSTRATION.
K, HAS THIS EVER HAPPENED TO
YOU?
IT IS A HOT SUMMER DAY, JUMP IN
THE CAR COME HUGE MISTAKE, THE
SEATS ARE BASICALLY ON FIRE.
BELINDA FROM TEXAS ADDI
MICHAEL JACKSON MOVES.
MOVING ONTO AN ADORABLE DUO,
QUITE AN ONLINE HIT WITH THEIR
PLAYFUL FRIENDSHIP.
THE OWNER SAYS THEY HAVE BEEN
INSEPARABLE SINCE ONE WAS A
LITTLE TINY PUPPY.
THEY ARE ENTERTAINING EACH
OTHER.
SPEAKING OF PUPPIES, GOT ANOTHER
PAIR OF FRIENDS MELTING THE
INTERSECT WITH THEIR BEAUTIFUL
RELATIONSHIP.
A LITTLE DOGGY GETTING A
PIGGYBACK RIDE FROM HIS BIG
BROTHER.
WE LOVE TO SEE THE FOWL AND
CANINE GET-TOGETHERS HERE.
IT IS OFF THE CHART, WE LOVE IT.
WE WANT TO SEE VIDEOS AND ONES
YOU THINK ARE CUER.
LET US KNOW, @ShannonBream OR
@FoxNewsNight.
♪ ♪
BREAKING TONIGHT, THE
SUPREME COURT GETTING INVOLVED
IN A FIGHT OVER BORDER POLICY.
A FEDERAL COURT HAD ORDERED THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TO
REINSTATE THESE REMAIN IN MEXICO
POLICY USED FOR ASYLUM-SEEKERS
AT THE BORDER UNDER THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION, SO THE DOJ NOW
UNDER THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION
WENT TO THE SUPREME COURT WITH
AN EMERGENCY REQUEST TO STOP
THAT.
TONIGHT, AND THE NATION'S
HIGHEST COURT IN A SHORT TIME
AGO PUT THAT LOWER COURT RULING
ON HOLD, BUT ONLY UNTIL LATE
TUESDAY NIGHT, JUSTICE ALITO
ISSUED TO MIKE'S ORDER
INDICATING THE PAUSE WAS NEEDED
IN ORDER TO LET THE FULL-COURT
WEIGH IN AND FOR THE OTHER SIDEY
5:00 P.M. ON TUESDAY.
IF YOU'RE STILL WITH US, YOU
KNOW IF IT IS THE SUPREME COURT
I WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED.
WITH MORE THAN 400,000 MIGRANTS
AT OUR SOUTHERN BORDER AND JUST
THE LAST TWO MONTHS, GOVERNMENT
OFFICIALS AND HEALTH CARE
PROFESSIONALS IN SOUTH TEXAS ARE
GRAPPLING WITH COVID FOLLOW-UP
FROM RECORD NUMBERS.
FOX NEWS MEDICAL CONTRIBUTOR
DR. MARC SIEGEL HAS ONE DOCTOR'S
STORY TONIGHT.
GOOD EVENING, DOCTOR.
>> GOOD EVENING, SHANNON.
DR. LOPEZ, MEDICAL DIRECTOR AT
McALLEN MEDICAL CENTER AT OUR
SOUTHERN BORDER, OFTEN DOESN'T
GO HOME AT THE END OF A 12-HOUR
SHIFT.
HER HOSPITAL IS OVERWHELMED WITH
UNVACCINATED PATIENTS.
>> PROBABLY ABOUT TEN DAYS AGO,
THINGS GOT A LITTLE BIT HECTIC,
AND WE ARE MAKING PLANS.
WE ARE WORKING EXTRA SHIFTS.
WE ARE PLANNING TO GET HELP SOON
FROM THE STATE BECAUSE THE CASES
ARE INCREASING VERY MUCH, FAST.
WE DEAL WITH SUFFERING, WE DEAL
WITH PAIN, WE DEAL WITH LOSS,
BUT THIS IS MY FIRST TIME THAT I
SEE PEOPLE SUFFERING ALONE.
>> DR. LOPEZ SAYS MANY OF HER
FELLOW STAFF HAVE GOTTEN SICK,
AND SOME COME ALONG WITH THEIR
PATIENTS, HAVE DIED.
AS A GROUP, THEY MOURN, BUT
STILL, THEY SHOULDER ON,
ANXIOUS, WORRIED, BUT DEDICATED.
>> I HAD ONE THAT HAD TRAUMA,
AND REALLY, WHEN HE CAME INTO
THE HOSPITAL, HE WAS POSITIVE
WITH COVID.
TRANSFER TO THE ICU, SHARED WITH
ME THE FEELING THAT HE WAS
COMING HERE TO TRY TO HAVE A
BETTER LIFE, NOW IN A BED ALONE,
KNOWING HOW HIS FAMILY WAS IN
HIS COUNTRY.
>> FOR DR. LOPEZ AND OTHERS,
THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL STORY,
IT IS A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS.
SHE SAYS SOME CATHOLIC CHARITIES
ARE BUILDING SHELTERS TO
QUARANTINE IMMIGRANTS TO PROTECT
LOCAL CITIZENS, BUT THE SHELTERS
ARE FILLING UP QUICKLY, AND
CRITICS SAY THAT WE SHOULD BE
SENDING CARE TO THE OTHER SIDE
OF THE BORDER, RATHER THAN
BRINGING PEOPLE OVER HERE THAT
WE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF.
SHANNON?
>> Shannon: THAT IS ANOTHER
STRATEGY.
DR. SIEGEL, THANK YOU FOR THE
UPDATE.
ALL RIGHT, I WANT TO BRING YOU
IN BECAUSE WE NEED SOME
UPLIFTING NEWS, SOME LIGHTER
FARE.
THIS IS OUR MIDNIGHT SNACK CHAT.
WE ARE GOING TO START CALLING AT
THAT BECAUSE WE ALWAYS END UP
TALKING ABOUT FOOD.
THE WEEKEND IS COMING.
MAYBE SWEET OUT THERE FOR FOLKS
TO SELL BRING SOMETHING, GETTING
TOGETHER WITH FAMILY.
NOW WE HAVE THE DEBATE, CAKE OR
PIE?
YOU HAVE SOME INTERESTING
POLLING NUMBERS, THERE IS
ACTUALLY A DEBATE ABOUT THIS.
>> THERE REALLY IS, AND IN FACT
I THINK YOU COULD ARGUE,
SHANNON, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
HAS BEEN BREWING, OR BACON, IF
YOU WILL, FOR YEARS.
CAKE OR PIE?
LET ME TAKE YOU BACK TO 2012, A
PBS POLL SHOWED 55% OF AMERICAN
PREFERRED PIE OVER CAKE.
FAST FORWARD A FEW YEARS TO
2015, BUZZFEED IN A SURVEY SAID
IT WAS DOWN TO 52'S-48 PIE.
SINCE THEN IN THE YEARS AFTER
THAT, IT'S BEEN BACK AND FORTH,
NECK AND NECK FROM A FORK VERSUS
PORT SO PIE VERSUS CAKE, WHO YOU
GOT?
>> Shannon: I AM DEFINITELY A
CAKE PAN.
THEY SELL THEIR CAKE BY A SLICE.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO COMMIT TO
THE WHOLE CAKE, IT FEELS LESS
GUILTY.
WHWHAT ABOUT YOU?
>> I LOVE CAKE AND CUPCAKES, BUT
I AM A PIE GUY.
I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
I DON'T KNOW WHY.
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, MY MOM
BASICALLY MADE DEVIL'S FOOD CAKE
ALL THE TIME, THAT'S ALL I EVER
HAD, AND THEN I GOT PIE WHEN
I'VE GOT TO BE AN ADULT, OH, --
>> Shannon: WHAT'S THIS?
>> EXACTLY.
MOST POPULAR PIES, APPLE,
PUMPKIN, CHERRY, PEAK ON, HE
LINED, BANANA CREAM, LEMON
MERINGUE, BLUEBERRY, OREO, AND
CHOCOLATE MOUSSE.
MOST POPULAR CAKES ARE, WAIT FOR
IT, CHEESECAKE, MOLTEN
CHOCOLATE, RED VELVET, BOSTON
CREAM, DEVIL'S FOOD -- THAT'S
THE ONE MY MOM ALWAYS MADE --
ICE CREAM CAKE, GOOEY BUTTER
CAKE, KING CAKE CHIFFON, AND
COCONUT CAKE.
SO, YOUR FAVORITE PIE AND YOUR
FAVORITE CAKE ARE...
>> Shannon: I DON'T LIKE THE
FRUITY STUFF, I AM A FLORIDA
GIRL, I AM GOING WITH KEY LIME
PIE FOR MY PIE.
FOR CAKE, I LIKE THE TRADITIONAL
VANILLA WITH BUTTER CREAM.
>> FOR PIE, CHERRY PIE GUY,
ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.
LOVE APPLE PIE TOO SO CAN'T
COMPLAIN, AND I ACTUALLY REALLY.
MY MOVE TO MIAMI, I WAS LIKE,
KEY LINE, I FELL IN LOVE.
AS FOR CAKE, I HATE TO SAY IT, I
AM A CREATURE OF HABIT, DEVIL'S
FOOD CAKE IT IS.
>> Shannon: MOM GETS ALL THE
CREDIT FOR THAT.
>> RED VELVET IS GOOD, TOO.
>> Shannon: WE WILL SAY ALL OF
THE ABOVE.
>> PRETTY MUCH.
>> Shannon: KEVIN, GOOD NEWS
COMING UP.
>> GREAT STUFF TONIGHT.
I WILL SEE YOU LATER.
>> Shannon: THANK YOU, KEVIN.
ALL RIGHT, NO VACCINE, NO
MEDICAL CARE?
IS IT ETHICAL FOR DOCTORS OR
HOSPITALS TO TURN YOU AWAY IF
YOU DON'T HAVE A SHOT?
FOR SOME PATIENTS, THAT IS NOW
REALITY.
PLENTY TO
♪ ♪
>> Shannon: VACCINE MANDATES
COMING FOR STUDENTS IN BOTH
LOS ANGELES AND NEW YORK CITY
TONIGHT.
CORRESPONDENT MATT FINN UPDATING
THE LATEST FIGHTS OVER VACCINES
FOR YOUNG AMERICANS.
GOOD EVENING, MATT.
>> SHANNON, FROM HERE IN
CALIFORNIA TO TEXAS AND
NEW YORK, THERE IS A GROWING
LIST OF MASK AND VACCINE
MANDATES FOR STUDENTS OF ALL
AGES.
IN LOS ANGELES, CULVER CITY
SCHOOL DISTRICT IS BELIEVED TO
BECOME THE FIRST IN THE STATE TO
REQUIRE ALL STUDENTS 12 YEARS
AND OLDER TO BE VACCINATED.
THE SUPERINTENDENT SAYS PARENTS,
TEACHERS, AND STAFF
OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT THE MOVE.
>> I WANT TO PROMISE TO THAT
FAMILY THAT IN THE AFTERNOON
WHEN THIS CHILD IS RETURNING TO
YOU, WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE
COULD HAVE DONE TO RETURN THIS
CHILD SAFELY TO YOU.
>> I KIND OF AGREE WITH IT.
YOU DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE HAS IT
OR NOT, AT THIS POINT.
WE ALL LOOK NORMAL, YOU CAN BE
ASYMPTOMATIC.
>> I DON'T AGREE WITH IT.
IT SHOULD BE A CHOICE.
>> CALIFORNIA HAS ORDERED ALL
K-12 STUDENT AND EMPLOYEE IS BE
VACCINATED OR TAKE
CORONAVIRUS TESTS WEEKLY.
MAKING EMPLOYEES GET VACCINATED
WITH NO OPTIONS FOR TEST.
IN NEW YORK CITY,
MAYOR de BLASIO TWEETING
FRIDAY MORNING "COVID-19
VACCINATION WILL BE REQUIRED FOR
ALL STUDENTS AND STAFF
PARTICIPATING IN HIGH-RISK,
PUBLIC SCHOOL, ATHLETICS THIS
YEAR."
THAT INCLUDES VOLLEYBALL,
WRESTLING, LACROSSE, RUGBY,
BOWLING.
>> 12-117 GROUP, HIGHEST GROWTH
RATE IN VACCINATION IN ANY AGE
GROUP IN NEW YORK CITY.
ALMOST 300,000 KIDS IN THAT
RANGE AND GOT IN THE
VACCINATION.
IS MAKING A BIG DIFFERENCE.
>> U.S. EDUCATION SECRETARY
TELLING ASKED HIGH SCHOOL
FOOTBALL STUDENTS THERE
WILL BE POP UP CLINICS AND
STUDENTS NEED TO BE REMINDED OF
WHAT IS AT STAKE IF THEY DO
NOT DO THEIR PART.
>> VACCINE IS A TOOL WE HAVE TO
KEEP YOU SAFE AND DO KEEP YOU ON
THAT FIELD SO YOU CAN TAKE THAT
RACE.
>> MORE MANDATES COULD BE ON THE
WAY AS THE FDA IS EXPECTED TO
GIVE THE PFIZER VACCINE FULL
APPROVAL ON MONDAY AND ALSO
BEGIN TO APPROVE THE VACCINE FOR
CHILDREN UNDER 12.
THE LATEST IN TEXAS, THE
SUPREME COURT THERE BLOCKED
GOVERNOR ABBOTT'S ATTEMPT TO
BLOCK MASK MANDATES IN HIS
STATE.
THE TEXAS ATTORNEY GENERAL IS
EXPECTED TO APPEAL THAT
DECISION, SHANNON.
>> Shannon: ALL RIGHT,
MATT FINN, THANK YOU FOR THE
UPDATE.
A DOCTOR IN ALABAMA REFUSING TO
TREAT PATIENTS WHO WON'T GET THE
COVID VACCINE.
AS HOSPITALS IN THE DALLAS AREA
SAY THEY MAY SOON CONSIDER
VACCINATION STATUS IN ASSIGNING
ICU BEDS.
AND A WASHINGTON STATE HOSPITAL
IS REPORTEDLY KICKING PEOPLE
WAITING FOR ORGAN TRANSPLANTS
OFF THE LIST IF THEY DON'T GET
THE JOB.
WEIGHTY ISSUES OF CONSCIENCE AND
MORALITY TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT,
SO LET'S BRING IN BIOETHICIST,
THEOLOGIAN, AND AUTHOR OF
"LOSING OUR DIGNITY," CHARLIE
CAMOSY.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK.
>> HEY, SHANNON.
>> Shannon: THIS ALABAMA
DOCTOR SENDING THIS LETTER OUT
TO HIS PATIENTS AND PICKED UP BY
THE OUTLETS IN ALABAMA, SAYS "I
CANNOT AND WILL NOT FORCE ANYONE
TO TAKE THE VACCINE BUT I ALSO
CANNOT CONTINUE TO WATCH MY
PATIENTS SUFFER AND DIE FROM AN
EMINENTLY PREVENTABLE DISEASE.
THEREFORE, AS OF OCTOBER 1ST,
2021, I WILL NO LONGER SEE
PATIENTS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN
VACCINATED AGAINST COVID-19."
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF IT, CHARLIE?
>> WELL, YOU ARE THE LAWYER, YOU
KNOW THE LAW BETTER THAN I DO,
BUT I HAVE TO SAY, THIS SOUNDS
LIKE SOMETHING CLOSE TO A CIVIL
RIGHTS VIOLATION.
I MIGHT DISAGREE.
IN FACT, I KIND OF AGREE WITH
DOCTOR, PEOPLE SHOULD GET
VACCINATED, BUT THE UNVACCINATED
HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS AND EQUAL
PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW AS
EVERYONE ELSE.
SPEAKING AS A MEDICAL ETHICIST,
IT IS ONE THING TO BASE
SOMETHING LIKE TRANSPLANTS ON
WHO IS MOST LIKELY TO SURVIVE,
BUT THIS DR. IS DOING SOCIAL
ENGINEERING.
HE IS BASICALLY SAYING I WANT
THIS OUTCOME IN SOCIETY, ONE I
HAPPEN TO AGREE WITH, AND THEN
REFUSING TO TREAT PATIENTS UNDER
HIS CARE AS A RESULT OF THAT?
THAT VIOLATES EVERY MEDICAL.
>> Shannon: LET'S MOVE ON TO
SOME OF THESE OTHERS.
DALLAS, YOU FLAGGED THIS AND
TALKED ABOUT THIS AS WELL,
VACCINATION STATUS MAY BE
CONSIDERED TO GET ICU BEDS IN
DALLAS AREA HOSPITALS IF THE
COVID SPREAD WORSENS.
THEY SAY OF NORTH TEXAS STARTS
RUNNING OUT OF ICU BEDS, DOCTORS
MAY HAVE TO CONSIDER CORONAVIRUS
VACCINATION STATUS AS A FACTOR
IN WHO GETS PRIORITY CARE
APPEARED WITH THE VACCINATED
POTENTIALLY BEING PRIORITIZED
FOR TREATMENT ON THE ASSUMPTION
THAT THEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO
SURVIVE.
HOW DOES THAT ARGUMENT SIT WITH
YOU AS AN ETHICIST?
>> IF YOU PUT A BUNCH OF THINGS
TOGETHER LIKE AGE AND HEALTH,
YOU KNOW, VACCINATION STATUS IS
ONE OF SEVERAL THINGS, MANY
THINGS TO PUT TOGETHER.
THEN I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT LET'S FACE IT, WHAT'S GOING
ON IN TODAY'S WORLD, SHANNON,
THERE IS A POLITICAL ASPECT TO
ALL OF THIS.
THERE IS AN IDEOLOGICAL ASPECT
TO ALL OF THIS.
AND HERE IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO
THROW INTO THE MIX: 40%, ONLY
40% OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THE
UNITED STATES HAVE COVID
VACCINATED.
ONLY 45% OF LATINOS ARE
VACCINATED.
WHO IS DISPROPORTIONATELY
AFFECTED WHEN WE SAY "YOU DON'T
HAVE ACCESS TO THE HEALTH CARE
SYSTEM IF YOU ARE UNVACCINATED."
THIS PROPORTIONATELY,
MINORITIES.
WHERE IS THE RACIAL JUSTICE ON
THIS?
WE TALK ABOUT IT AND OTHER
ISSUES, IMPORTANT, BUT IT IS
ABSENT, CRICKETS, WHEN IT COMES
TO THIS SET OF ISSUES, AND WE
OUGHT TO START TALKING ABOUT IT.
>> Shannon: YEAH, HERE IN
NEW YORK CITY, WHERE IF YOU DO
NOT HAVE A VEXING PASSPORT, YOU
CAN'T GO INTO RESTAURANTS,
ENTERTAINMENT VENUES,
GYMS, THAT KIND OF THING, AND A,
THE RACIAL DISPARITY THEY ARE,
AS WELL, YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
ARGUMENTS ABOUT DISPARATE
IMPACT -- EVEN IF THE
UNDERLYING, YOU KNOW, POLICY HAS
A POLITICAL AND NOT RACIST ROLE,
IF IT THEN TRANSLATES INTO
SOMETHING THAT DOES MORE
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT
MINORITIES, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE
THAT CONVERSATION.
I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.
OKAY, LET'S GO TO WASHINGTON
STATE, WHERE THIS IS THE ONE
THAT HAS GOTTEN SO MUCH
ATTENTION NOW BECAUSE THERE
HOSPITALS THERE THAT IS
APPARENTLY TURNING PEOPLE AWAY
WHO WERE ON THE TRANSPLANT LIST
IF THEY DON'T GET THE SHOT.
ONE OF THE PLAY SHOULD KNOW MY
PATIENTS, WHO SAYS HE IS BEING
DENIED A LIVER TRANSPLANT, WAS
ON TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT THIS
WEEK, AND HERE'S WHAT HE SAID
ABOUT THIS.
>> I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN ALL
AROUND THE UNITED STATES THE
LAST FEW MONTHS, BUT NOW HERE IT
IS, YOU KNOW, IN MY KITCHEN,
THIS IS IT, YOU BASICALLY HAVE A
HILL TO DIE ON, YOU CHOOSE THE
VACCINE AND GET TO SEE ANOTHER
DAY, OR YOU DON'T, AND YOU DIE.
>> Shannon: CLICK FINAL WORD
FROM YOU, CHARLIE.
DID YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE HERE?
>> YOU ASKED ME A COUPLE OF
YEARS BEFORE BEFORE I WROTE
"LOSING OUR DIGNITY," NO.
KNOWING OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM
MUCH BETTER AFTER DOING THIS
RESEARCH, I HAVE TO SAY SO MUCH
IS DIRECTED AT PRODUCING THE
BEST OUTCOME, WHICH IS
IMPORTANT, BUT FUNDAMENTAL
RIGHTS, INCLUDING RACIAL
JUSTICE, NEED TO COME FIRST.
>> Shannon: "LOSING OUR
DIGNITY" IS A FANTASTIC READ, SO
IF YOU ARE STRUGGLING WITH THIS
OR HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, YOU
SHOULD READ AT.
CHARLIE, THANKS FOR BEING WITH
US.
>> THANKS, SHANNON.
>> Shannon: A WHALE OF A TAIL
HITTING THE COURT ROOM.
WHAT IS SO DANGEROUS ABOUT THESE
OCEAN CUTIES?
YOU SEE THE SMILES, SEE
♪ ♪
>> Shannon: A WHIMSICAL WHALE
IS AT THE CENTER OF TONIGHT'S
"NIGHT COURT."
CLOSING RETAILER VINEYARD VINES
IS TAKING LAKE SHIRTS TO COURT
FOR COPYRIGHT AND
INFRINGEMENT.
LAKE SHIRT WHALE DESIGN SOLD IN
MAINE AND FLORIDA IS STRIKINGLY
SIMILAR TO THEIR WHALE LOGO.
TO SIMILAR, THEY ARGUE.
LET'S BRING IN FORMER U.S.
ATTORNEY HARRY LITMAN AND
WASHINGTON, D.C., TRIAL ATTORNEY
JOE CAMMARATA.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING WITH
US.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> Shannon: PEOPLE KNOW,
EXHIBIT A, THE TWO WHALE
DESIGNS, YOU CAN SEE WHETHER YOU
THINK THEY ARE TOO SIMILAR OR
NOT, BUT LET'S TAKE YOU TO THE
COMPLAINT.
IT SAYS "SUCH MIMICRY IS LIKELY
TO LEAD TO CONFUSION AS TO THE
SOURCE, SPONSORSHIP, OR OTHER
COMMERCIAL AND AFFILIATION OF
THE CLOTHING WITH VINEYARD VINES
AND ITS CLOTHING GOODS."
HARRY?
>> THAT HAS TO BE THE QUESTION.
THESE GUYS, SHANNON, ARE ON
WHALE WATCH ALL OVER THE
COUNTRY.
THEY ARE REPEAT PLAYERS.
THEY SUE EVERYBODY, INCLUDING
HERE, THE SUIT THEY DROPPED
AGAINST A RETAILER THAT GOT
SCARED AND SAID "ALL RIGHT, WE
WON'T SELL THEM ANYMORE," BUT
THE QUESTION IS, IT'S NOT OUR
THESE CUTE WHALES, DO THEY HAVE
SOME SIMILARITIES, IT IS WHAT A
CONSUMER GO IN AND BE CONFUSED
AND THINK, OH, THIS IS A
VINEYARD VINES SHIRT.
THEY WOULDN'T.
IT'S DIFFERENT.
IF ONE HAS A SPOUT, THEY LOOK
DIFFERENT, THEY DON'T SAY
"VINEYARD VINES" UNDER IT, AND
THAT IS WHY THEY SHOULD LOSE,
BUT I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY ARE
DOING IT TO WIN OR LOSE IT BUT
TO SORT OF TERRORIZE AND MAKE
PEOPLE BACK DOWN, BUT WITH A
LEGAL QUESTION IS, WHAT A
CONSUMER ACTUALLY THINK IT IS
THEIR SHIRT?
I DON'T THINK SO.
>> Shannon: TO THAT POINT,
EXHIBIT C, THIS IS TALKING ABOUT
THE PERCEIVED DIFFERENCES IN
THESE TWO, IT SAYS "THE ALLEGED
IMITATION HAS A CIRCLE AROUND IF
I COME UP WITH THE BRAND NAME
WHALE HAS MORE OF A
CRESCENT-SHAPED EYELID.
THE BODY SHAPES DON'T MATCH, HAS
A PROTRUDING BUMP ON ITS
FOREHEAD AND A SECOND PUMP
HAPPILY TO ITS TAIL.
ONE BUMP TO THE FACE WITH A
SMOOTH TRANSITION TO BE TAIL.
THE LIPS AND SMIRK DIFFER, TOO.
JOE?
>> THEY SAY NO MATTER HOW THIN
YOU MAKE A PANCAKE, THERE'S
ALWAYS ANOTHER SIDE TO IT, SO
I'M GLAD I GET ANOTHER SIDE.
THE FACT THEY HAVE BEEN AWARDED
TRADEMARK PROTECTION, WHICH
ALLOWS THEM TO DETERMINE HOW
THEIR MARKET IS PRESENTED TO THE
PUBLIC.
AND THEY ARE NOT TERRORIZING
ANYBODY WHEN SOMEBODY CREATES A
WHALE THAT IS SIMILAR.
THE SUGGESTION THAT, WELL, YOU
KNOW, THIS WHALE, THE SECOND
WHALE, HAS GOT WATER COMING OUT
OF ITS HEAD OR DOESN'T HAVE AN
EYEBROW, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE --
THE ISSUE IS NOT IDENTICAL, IS
ONE IDENTICAL TO THE OTHER?
THE ISSUE IS WHETHER OR NOT A
PUBLIC CAN BE CONFUSED.
WHEN YOU THINK OF A WHALE, YOU
THINK OF THE WHIMSICAL WHALE OF
VINEYARD VINES.
YOU DON'T THINK OF SOMETHING
ELSE.
AND SO, UNDER THE LAW, THEY HAVE
QUITE A PROTECTION THAT THEY ARE
AFFORDED TO CLAMPDOWN ON PEOPLE
THAT ARE ENCROACHING UPON THEIR
LEGALLY PROTECTED MARK.
>> Shannon: YEAH, AND THERE
WERE ESSENTIALLY TWO DEFENDANTS
HERE.
THERE WAS ONE, WHICH WAS A STORE
THAT WAS CARRYING THESE T-SHIRTS
THAT ARE MADE BY THE MAKER, SO
THE STORE STOPPED SELLING THEM,
AS YOU MENTION, THAT MEANS THEY
ARE OUT AND IT IS JUST DOWN TO
THE T-SHIRT MAKER.
THEY ARE THE ONLY WANTS STILL ON
THE HOOK.
TUNNEL ARGUMENTS TO HARRY AND
THEN JOE THEN JOE.
>> JOE HAS IT RIGHT, BUT THE
LEGAL STANDARD, WOULD SOMEONE
REALLY BE CONFUSED -- NOT IS
THIS A WHIMSICAL WHALE, BUT
WOULD SOMEBODY THINK, OH, THAT
IS A VINEYARD VINES SHIRT?
NO WAY.
>> Shannon: JOE?
>> LOOK, WHEN YOU SEE AN
ALLIGATOR, YOU THINK OF LOW COST
OR IZOD.
WHEN YOU SEE A MAN ON A HORSE,
YOU THINK OF POLO, AND YOU SEE A
WHALE, YOU THINK OF VINEYARD
VINES.
IT IS JUST THAT SIMPLE.
IT CAN CREATE SOME CONFUSION,
AND IF IT CAN LIKELY CREATE SOME
SORT CONFUSION, THEY WIN, AND I
THINK THEY WILL WIN HERE.
>> Shannon: WE WILL TRACK THE
CASE AND LET FOLKS KNOW.
IN THE MEANTIME, HARRY AND JOE
COME HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
THANK YOU BOTH.
>> HEY, THANK YOU BOTH.
>> Shannon: GOOD NEWS BEFORE
WE'D SAY GOOD NIGHT, 17-YEAR-OLD
BREAKING THE INTERNET AFTER
TURNING HIS BROTHER'S BUS STOP
INTO A SHOWSTOPPER.
ELABORATE COSTUMES, SIX MONTHS
STRAIGHT, GOING OFF TO COLLEGE.
AS WORD SPREAD ABOUT THIS -- OH,
NO, NOT THAT OUTFIT.
HE HAS BEEN TRANSFORMING IT,
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN BUZZ
BUZZ LIGHTYEAR, CHEWBACCA WAS A
FAVORITE, AND THE KIDS LOVE IT,
BUT OF COURSE, IT IS
EMBARRASSING.
KEVIN, THE SIBLINGS LOVE TO
EMBARRASS EACH OTHER.
>> THAT IS DEFINITELY
EMBARRASSING.
LEAVE IT AT THAT.
I'M GOING TO TAKE YOU TO
BEAUTIFUL ARIZONA FOR THIS GOOD
NEWS GOOD NIGHT, SHANNON, THIS
IS WHERE WE FIND AN 8-MONTH-OLD
GOAT.
ACTUALLY FREED BY THE ARIZONA
HUMANE SOCIETY DURING A TWO-DAY
RESCUE OPERATION.
THE ANIMAL ACTUALLY FELL INTO AN
IRRIGATION PIPE IN WEST PHOENIX.
A HOMEOWNER HERD THE GOATS CRY
COMING FROM UNDERGROUND.
THEY USED A SNAKE CAMERA, PVC
PIPES, SHOVELS, A SLEDGEHAMMER,
THEY RESCUED THE GOAT.
THANK YOU, HUMANE SOCIETY.
>> Shannon: BABY GOATS ARE SO
CUTE, BUT I CAN'T BELIEVE I
SPENT TWO DAYS DOING THAT.
I'M GLAD HE IS OUT AND THANKS TO
ALL OF THE HUMANS WHO HELD.
THANK YOU, KEVIN.
HAVE A