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带刀视频给你 with a knife video for you this is going
成为比较视频这是有史以来最受欢迎的比较视频 to be a comparison video this is the most requested comparison video ever
我有很多要求谈论80 10与终极猎人的要求 I've had so many requests to talk about the 80 10 versus the ultimate hunter
我已经有人告诉我，问他们是否有一个人应该购买 I've had people message me and and ask if they have one should they buy the
我问过的另一个人问过你 other one I've asked I've had people ask you know
是80 10值得额外的钱，所以我比其他任何人都拥有更多 is is the 80 10 worth the extra money so I've had more than any other
比较我对此有更多疑问，对此还有更多要求 comparison I've had more questions about this and more requests for this and it
罢工带来了一些非常有趣的观点，我们可以进入 strikes it brings up some really interesting points that we can go into
当我们在这里进行工作时，我认为它们将会更加广泛 as we work our way through here so I think they'll be even a broader
应用程序不只是这个单一的讨论，因为有一些 application than just this single discussion because there are some
您知道我认为这里提出了一些升级方面的合理问题 upgrades here that you know I think raised some legitimate questions about
我们花什么钱，以及它是否有效或有价值，所以第一件事 what we spend money on and and if it's valid valuable or not so the first thing
我想先说一下这个比较，然后再真正开始 I want to say about this comparison before we even really get into it is
上面有一些价格一直在移动目标让我们把 that there have been some the prices on these have been moving targets let's put
这样我现在认为是170或 it that way so these I think right now are 170 or
这些地方出来的最多的地方是180个，他们是140个，你知道我认为你 180 most places these when they came out they were 140 and you know I think you
知道感冒仍然认为这对他们来说是很公平的价格 know cold still thought that was a pretty fair price for them they've since
跌到100到110美元之间我见过它们104 105 107一些 dropped to between 100 and 110 dollars I've seen them for 104 105 107 a few
当然，如果您去白山艾夫斯酒店，价格可以在该范围内 prices in that that range of course if you go to White Mountain Ives you can
如果您发现特别的价格，现在可以节省10％的价格 save 10% on whatever price these are going for now if you find an exceptional
例如，几周前的拍卖会上有80场拍卖会 sale for example a few weeks ago these were on sale that the 80 tens were on
从刀中心以100美元的价格出售，这是惊人的 sale from knife Center for $100 and that is phenomenal
只是你花了100美元买了这么多刀，如果没有 just the the you're getting so much knife for $100 that that if you didn't
利用这笔交易，您对 take advantage of that deal and you have any interest at all in an
80 10今天您真的很想念船，可以，您会回来的吗 80 10 you really missed the boat nowadays you can you're gonna be back up
到大约170，但您不能节省10％这并不重要 to about 170 but you can't save yourself 10 percent which is not insignificant
那是170美元的17块钱，所以无论如何您都可以使用我的折扣代码 that's 17 bucks at 170 dollars so anyway you can use my discount code sharp stuff
在白山刀上救自己，现在我们继续前进 over at white mountain knives to save yourself that money now let's go ahead
然后回到我们在这里进行的具体比较 and get back into the specific comparison that we have here
这些是非常非常可比的，因为存在类似的事实 these are very very comparable because of the fact that there are similar
它们是相似设计的材料这两者都是非常出色的Android em materials they're similar designs both of these are very Android em Andrew
demco刀8010本质上完全像是定制的t10，也许不是 demco knives the 8010 is essentially exactly like a custom a t10 or maybe not
恰好非常接近定制T10，终极猎人不是 exactly about very very close to a custom a t10 the ultimate hunter is not
超级接近自定义的终极猎人，但它足够接近，您可以 super close to a custom ultimate hunter but it's it's close enough and you can
当然可以在这里看到demco样式，当然它们与 certainly see the demco stylings here and of course they're very similar to
他们甚至有相同的三个小j子的事实 one another even to the fact that they have the same three little jimping
那里的酒窝，或者你想称呼它的好吧，现在那里有一些 dimples there or whatever you want to call it okay now they are there are some
从大小开始，我们将在这里继续努力解决重大差异 significant differences that we'll work our way through here beginning with size
和重量，这将是可能推迟很多时间的主要因素 and weight and that's going to be the primary one that may put off a lot of
人或可能使某些人倾向于终极猎人，这是一个 people or may make certain people lean toward the ultimate hunter it is a
较小的刀，因此最终的猎人总数将是8和9/16 smaller knife and so the ultimate hunter is going to be 8 and 9/16 overall three
刀片上有一个半英寸，手柄上有五个英寸，它有四个 and a half inches on the blade five inches on the handle it's got four
英寸的抓地力，四点称重9盎司，所以这是一个 inches of grip area and weighs in at four point nine ounces okay so that's a
相当合理的大小的刀携带非常好，有很多房地产 pretty reasonable sized knife carries very well has lots of real estate for
您的手感觉真的很好，所以在移动时这很重要 your hands feels really good in hand and so that's that's significant now moving
到了八十年代，我们已经有八岁和十三岁的十六岁了 over to the eighty ten we've got eight and thirteen sixteen so that's over
刀片上的五分之八和四分之三英寸和刀片的五分之三和9/16 eight and three-quarter inches three and 9/16 on the blade five and 9/16 on the
手柄，所以握把面积只有五分半多一点 handle so that's a little over five and a half inches the grip area however is
少一点，当您将它们并排放置时，您会看到更多 less and you can see this as you put them side-by-side there's a little more
侵略性你知道这里只有两到两个辛劳 of an aggressive you know just two to two toils here that really make a
在此处和此处之间的抓握区域上为您的手等定义的位置 defined spot for your hand and so on on the grip area between here and here
我们现在只剩下三四分之三英寸， we're only going to get three and three-quarter inches now still lots of
空间，您确实辛苦了，现在可以在那里再多一点空间 space and you do have that toil allowing you to get a little more room there now
这是真正改变六点八盎司的地方，所以这是一个完整的 here's where things really really change six point eight ounces so this is a full
好2盎司，这个家伙比这重2盎司，这就是 2 ounces ok this guy is a full two ounces heavier than this and that is
对许多人来说将是著名的，也许您可​​以观看停止 going to be notable for many many many people and perhaps you can watch stop
现在看这部影片，你只是不行，我没有办法 watching this video right now and you just go nope there's no way I'm not
携带的刀重达80磅，所以最终的猎人是 carrying a knife that weighs that much so the 80 so the ultimate hunter is the
一个给我，否则你知道我可以看到的另一种方式是你知道你是否 one for me otherwise you know the other way I can see this is you know if you're
像我一样，当涉及到测量时，您会有一把刀 like me and you've got a collection of knives when it comes down to measuring
一定的实用性和携带方便性，您绝对必须给点意见 sort of practicality and ease of carry you definitely have to give the points
最终的猎人，所以在这种尺寸的重量和携带 to the ultimate hunter so in this category of size weight and carry
好吧，我总是把它们放在一起，因为它们是如此的密切相关 alright and I always lump those together because they're so closely related
尽管最终的猎人是明显的赢家，但携带起来却容易得多 though the ultimate hunter is the clear winner it's much easier to carry around
与您合作，将它作为真正的EDC刀片，在8010上您可以实际使用 with you it's much more practical as a true EDC blade where the 8010 you could
也许你可以做到，我确实带了这把刀很多，但你可能 possibly you can do it and I do carry this knife a lot but you could probably
由于其尺寸和大小，将其更多地移入偶尔携带的类别 move it more into the category of occasional carry because of its size and
重量全部移到板上，现在我们要做的刀片 weight all right moving over to the plate now the blade we've got to make a
关于第一个非常相似的几个要点我们有相同的 couple of special points about first very very similar we've got the same
两者的材料均为35 V n，现在我们都经过相同的研磨，好了，我知道这是 material that's 35 V n on both we've got the same grind okay now I know this is a
空心研磨，这是平面研磨，但是新的80将会有一个 hollow grind and this is a flat grind but then the new 80 tens will have a
平面研磨，所以我们用相同的研磨相同的钢，相似的边缘，现在让我指出 flat grind so we've got the same grind same steel similar edge now let me point
在这个特殊的比较中，我的80 10会减少，不会的 out that in this particular comparison my 80 10 is going to cut no it's going
切片和切割要好一点，因为在 to slice and cut just a little better because of that hollow grind over the
平磨是的，您要牺牲一点韧性，我不知道是否 flat grind yes you're sacrificing a little bit of toughness I don't know if
您将其塞入某些东西并尝试以这种方式将其折断 you jammed this into something and tried breaking it off this way one that's not
这样做很容易，但我知道它的确在任何一侧都受到支持，但是 an easy thing to do so it's supported on either side I know it does happen but
这是臭皮稀有的，如果你要牺牲力量，我会成为 it's pretty stinkin rare and if you're going to sacrifice strength I'd be the
当您要从中获得额外的切割性能时，可以这样做 place to do it when you're going to get extra cutting performance out of it
那就是我将不会更多地讨论平面研磨，但是 that's I won't go into too much more about flat grinds other than that but
我要说的是这个，我猜这八十个刀片略 what I'm going to say is this in the I guess this eighty ten blade is slightly
穿得更漂亮，我们得到了跳跃并在这里进行，我们得到了好的准备 dressier as well we get the jump and carried in here we get the swedge okay
但是在t10的标准平坦地面上，这些基本相同，所以 but in the standard flat ground a t10 these are essentially the same okay so
我要称呼它为领带，因为他们是如此亲密，以至于 I'm gonna call this one a tie because they're they're so close that it's
尝试将它们进行比较几乎毫无意义 almost meaningless to try and compare them in terms of
也许是美学，您可能会喜欢其中一种更好的外观，也许您是 perhaps aesthetics you might like the look of one of these better maybe you're
例如较宽的刀片比较薄的刀片更好，或者也许您喜欢 like the the wider blade better than the thinner blade or maybe you like you know
缺少顶部的毛刺比您喜欢顶部的毛刺更重要 the the lack of a swedge on top better than you like the swedge whatever the
除了美学考虑外，这些都是 case may be aesthetic considerations aside these are
基本上都是同一把刀片移动到锁上，现在他们两个都有三合会 essentially the same blade moving on to the lock now both of them have the Triad
锁定，也许您知道您可能会认为很好，凯文只是打个电话，但是如果 lock and that may you know you may think well Kevin just call it a time but if
如果您要部署这两把刀，请您解除锁定 you if you go to deploy these two knives if you go to disengage the lock
立刻，您会发现八十个锁的巨大差异 immediately you notice a massive difference the eighty tens lock is much
顺畅得多，容易得多，并且八十只手表的动作刚落下时 much smoother much easier and the action on the eighty ten watch as it just drops
如此轻松地关闭，终极猎人就不会为你这么做，我可以 shut so easily the ultimate hunter is not going to do that for you right I can
摇动它并使其最终下降，但它并不那么平滑 shake it and get it to go down eventually but it's not nearly as smooth
除了八十年代之外，八十年代上的拇指钉实际上 as the eighty ten in addition to that the thumb stud on the 80 ten is actually
比终极猎人的拇指钉舒适得多 much more comfortable than the thumb stud on the ultimate hunter neither of
他们是终极猎人并不难受，我们已经在 them are the ultimate hunter is not uncomfortable we've talked about this in
之前与Recon的比较这里的拇指钉可能有点难 a previous comparison with the Recon one the thumb stud here can be a little hard
抓住它，上面有一些非常锋利的脊，所以我喜欢 to get a hold of and has some pretty sharp ridges on it so I like the
清晰度，因为它可以为您提供良好的抓地力，但它的额外尺寸和设计 sharpness because it gives you a good grip but the extra size and design of
这个拇指耳钉非常非常好，另一件事是，如果您要轻弹 this thumb stud is just very very nice the other thing is if you're gonna flick
我都可以打开它们，但是8010还是很多 both of these both of them I can flick open but again the 8010 is much much
更顺畅，所以我可以毫不犹豫地说 smoother so without any hesitation whatsoever I can say the action is much
8010更好，如果您之前被Triad锁推迟了 much nicer on the 8010 and if you've been put off by the Triad lock before
因为很难脱离，尝试八十​​个，我想你会 because it's difficult to disengage try an eighty ten I think you'll be
留下深刻的印象，因为这样可以更好地处理其他区域 impressed because it's much nicer to deal with okay moving on to another area
哪里会有一些差异，请看一下手柄，所以我们 where there are going to be some differences look at the handles so we
两者的轮廓都很好，实际上非常吸引人。 have contoured g10 on both actually very attractive g10 slightly more decorative
在80上的硬件上，15上有10 in terms of hardware on the 80 10 over the 15 there is a significant difference
就建筑而言，在80 10上，我们已经有了这些铝 here in terms of construction and that is on the 80 10 we've got these aluminum
在这里有一种铝制的背面隔片，也可以是窗户的两倍 with a sort of aluminum back spacer here as well that kind of doubles as a window
破碎或颅骨破碎机类型的工具现在移至最终猎人 break or skull crusher type of implement now moving over to the ultimate hunter
如果没有的话，您的确会有一点凹痕 you don't have that you do have a little indentation where your thumb can sit if
您曾经需要在反向抓地力中使用它，所以这就是 you ever needed to use this in reverse grip so that's that's something to
现在考虑一下，我们已经在布局上 consider so now that we've kind of laid out the construction differences both of
他们很好，我想这是绝对值得考虑的另一个考虑因素 them well I guess this is another consideration that's definitely worth
提到我有关于它的笔记，所以现在让我们看看这两个 mentioning I've got notes about it so let's do that now if you look at the two
夹子都可以，都是冷钢夹子夹子都可以 clips okay both of them are cold steel clips both of them are going to take a
轻而易举地插入口袋，但8010是单机 little extra effort to get into your pocket easily however the 8010 is single
最终猎人的位置是两个位置的双重位置 position the ultimate hunter is dual position with the two clips that were
以前从冷钢上看，所以这个家伙有点弯曲，如果你 used to seeing from cold steel so this guy's got a bit of a bend to it if you
想要将其翻转到左侧，您必须使用完全不同的剪辑 want to flip it to the left side you've got to use a completely different clip
随刀附送的所有这些都可以从中受益 which does ship with the knife all right both of these can benefit from just a
一点点的调整，他们两个都做得很好，我会说我喜欢 little bit of tweaking both of them are pretty well done I will say this I like
最终猎人上的这个小片段不会占用很多 this small clip on the ultimate hunter quite a bit it doesn't take up a lot of
口袋里的空间非常深 space it carries pretty deeply in the pocket
这个巨大的片段是一个非常Android的demco片段，这是他一直在做的事情， this giant clip is a very Android demco clip this is what he always does and you
知道是喜欢还是讨厌，这就是发展的方向 know like it or hate it that's the way it goes
我不会切换它，因为这是为了忠实于 I would not switch it because this is attempting to be faithful to the
原始的定制刀，对我来说，只要 original custom knife and so to me that's more important as long as the
剪辑功能好吧，我真的不在乎它在口袋里的什么地方，我不在意 clip functions okay I don't really care where it carries in pocket I don't
真的很在乎尺寸，我确实在乎这两个尺寸 really care about the size I do care that it functions well on both of these
剪辑功能非常好，我宁愿有一个看起来完全一样的剪辑 Clips function quite well and I would rather have a clip that looks exactly
例如自定义，然后将其修改为其他不同的方式 like the custom then to modify it into something different okay if you were
仅仅把这看成是伊凡的作品，你根本不在乎 looking at this as purely a production Ivan you didn't care about the fact that
这是自定义的，这是自定义刀的生产版本，那么您可能 it was a custom it was a production version of a custom knife then you may
与我有不同的看法，我不会怪你，我想 have a different view on that than me and I wouldn't blame you and I think
我已经听说了一些售后剪辑，现在让我们继续 I've heard a little bit about some some aftermarket Clips now let's move on to
人体工程学，我们已经讨论过那里的结构差异 ergonomics we've talked about the construction differences there there
更好的是他们非常亲密我必须说这个 better they're very close I have to say this
这两个都是市场上最舒适的两把刀 both of these these are two of the most comfortable knives on the market they're
他们俩的手真的很好，但是它们都是8010 they're really really nice in hand both of them are however the 8010 with its
额外的大小肯定更好，所以如果我知道我要去做的话 extra size is definitely nicer all right so if I you know if I was gonna do it a
很多重切我会想要8010，尽管如果 lot of heavy cutting I would I would be wanting the 8010 although either way if
他们俩真的都非常好，所以ergo nomicon 8010 they're both really really good so ergo nomicon the 8010 that perhaps our
升级或降级取决于您对我的定制和rudenko upgrades or downgrades depending on who you are to me the custom the and rudenko
剪辑是对某些内容的升级，可能是我可以授予的限制 clip is an upgrade to some that might be a limitation all right where I can award
符合人体工学的是80 10的几个额外要点，但是非常亲密 a couple of extra points to the 80 10 is in ergonomics but it's so close guys
我不知道我认为我们也必须将此称呼为平手，所以 that I don't know I think we've got to call this one a tie as well so it's it's
在这里，一个艰难的电话是，终极猎人肯定会更好，我是 a tough call here guys the the ultimate hunter definitely carries better I'm
只是要重新说明我们使最终猎人所携带的要点更好， just gonna rehash the points we've made the ultimate hunter carries better and
尽管它并没有在刀片方面真正失去任何东西，但它要小一些 it's a little smaller although it's not really losing anything in terms of blade
刀片的长度基本相同，三合会锁的动作很多 length the blades are essentially the same the Triad lock the action is much
在8010上更好，在手柄方面也有一些很大的不同 better on the 8010 and in terms of the handle there are some big differences
但是这些差异并不大，而且因为它们是 but those differences don't amount to a whole lot and and because they're
意见问题，有些人可能喜欢这些差异，例如，如果 matters of opinion some some people may like the differences so for example if
您是惯用左手的人，您显然更喜欢将其放在左侧的功能 you're left-handed you obviously prefer the ability to put this on the left side
如果您不喜欢这种大的金属夹，那将是一个很大的决定因素。 that's gonna be a big deciding factor if you don't like this big metal clip and
你们中有些人特别指出，在先前视频的评论中 some of you have specifically said that in the comments on previous videos again
这是一个很大的因素，也许您想要铝制的头骨破碎机 that's a huge factor maybe you want the aluminum sort of skull crusher here
如果您绝对想要的话，那就再无所求 rather than nothing again if you definitely definitely want
那是一个很大的不同，有些人可能真的很喜欢 that that's a big difference some might really like the extra
铝提供的强度以及相同的区别 strength provided by the aluminum and again same difference same deal that
可能是正面还是负面的，取决于您是谁，您是什么人 that can be a positive or a negative depending on who you are and what your
因此，在我们提供给我们的东西之前，我们需要涉及的一件事 take is on this so one of the things we need to touch on before we we give our
完整的结论，我想最初的结论是，这些都是 full conclusion I guess the initial conclusion would be this these are both
伟大的有用的切削工具，但毫无疑问，因为价格和 great useful cutting tools but without question because of price and
是终极猎人更实用吧，它会更容易携带 is the ultimate hunter is more practical right it's gonna be easier to carry
每天陪伴着您，付出的代价却更少 around with you on an everyday basis and it's going to cost you less to to give
您现在的性能基本相同。您要为80支付多少费用 you essentially the same performance now what are you paying extra for on the 80
10好，我认为设计相当可观 10 well I think the design is considerably is considerable right we're
十分忠实地再现了Android Emeco自定义 getting a very very faithful reproduction of an Android Emeco custom
在这里，我认为至少对我有价值，确实Emeco是其中之一 here and that I think has some value at least to me it does indeed Emeco is one
我最喜欢的设计师，如果没有价值，对我来说就有价值 of my favorite designers so that to me has some value if it doesn't have value
给你，那么你可以把这个从清单上划掉第二件事是行动 to you then you can cross this one off the list the second thing is the action
这是一把舒适得多的刀，实际上没有冷钢 this is a much more comfortable knife in fact there are really no cold Steel's
在此之前，我将其称为烦躁友好型刀具 before this that one that I would call fidget friendly knives knives that are a
一点点上瘾的玩这个很上瘾 little bit of addictive to play with this is very addictive to play with it
动作如此出色，只是掉落而已。现在甩开8010 at 15十分有趣 has such nice action it just drops it's very fun to flick now the 8010 the at-15
很抱歉，我也很高兴能和你一起玩，但我知道 I'm sorry also has that so I'm you know it's pretty fun to play with as well but
相比之下，这两种d-10的动作要好得多 in in comparison between these two the action is much much nicer on the a d-10
所以这绝对是您为此付出的额外费用 and so that's definitely something you're paying extra for you're also
在这里为多余的金属支付额外的费用，所以我们得到了铝制衬纸，其g10 paying extra for the extra metal here so we've got aluminum liners with g10 over
只是笔直的g10，您可能就是那种想要额外的人 just straight g10 and you may be the kind of person who wants that extra
坚韧，如果你是坚强的人，我绝对不会怪你，但是你 toughness that extra durability if you are I definitely don't blame you but you
如果您知道您现在可能为此付出更多的钱 you could potentially be paying more for that now if it comes down to you know
我更喜欢哪一个我想我要先做两次 which one I like better I guess I'm gonna do this two times first of all
因为空心磨，我喜欢这种空心之间的磨削 because of the hollow grind I like this one a lot better between the hollow
如果单单磨碎，那么现在的动作就大不相同了。 grind and the action alone it's way way different now if this had a flat grind I
不会像刀片那样激动，这只是动作 wouldn't be as as stoked about the blade so it would just be the action that
确实让我的手感稍微好点了，所以对 really is making a difference to me in a slightly better feel in hand and so yeah
在那种情况下，我仍然会把8010当作终极猎人 in those in those cases I would still take the 8010 over the ultimate hunter
但是，如果您给我发了一条消息说：凯文，我正在寻找一个很棒的 however if you sent me a message and said hey Kevin I'm looking for one great
EDC刀片我真的很喜欢终极猎人8010的设计 EDC blade I really like the design of the 8010 the ultimate hunter has a
我应该买哪一个 similar which one should I buy I'm gonna
现在，我想每次作为常规EDC刀片推荐终极猎人 recommend the ultimate hunter every time as a regular EDC blade now guys I want
在这里停下来一秒钟我的男孩们在这里，真的很想成为 to stop for just a second here my boys are here and really wanted to be part of
这个视频，但是由于一些技术问题，我想通过 this video but because of some of the technical stuff I wanted to go through I
想让我们把它们带到最后，以便男孩们想要进来并称重 thought let's bring them in at the end so the boys want to come in and weigh in
在这两把刀上，我要把它们放进去，让他们分享 on these two knives so I'm gonna bring them in and let them share their
与您一起对这两把刀的想法再次感谢您的观看，我会回来的 thoughts on these two knives with you thanks again for watching I'll be back
一秒钟之内，让我的男孩在这两把刀上称重，好吧，所以乔尔- in one second and have my boys weigh in on these two knives okay guys so Joel -
在这里，我们要带他们去看看这两把刀 were here and we're gonna take that them to take a look at these two knives
你还记得他们叫乔尔吗，实际上你必须为我们阅读它们 do you remember what they're called Joel actually you have to read them for us
这是什么，我们有一款t10终极猎人还可以，所以 what's this one we've got the a t10 the ultimate hunter okay so yeah so which
你们喜欢更好的终极猎人吗 one do you guys like better ultimate hunter why
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这是Asher在说的 this is Asher talking right now
它有什么，哦，你喜欢黑色，但是这个是黑色的-Asher quick cut it has what oh you like the black but this one is black - Asher quick cut
有人还不如侦察兵那么好，所以很重 somebody okay not as good as the Recon one it's heavy okay so it gets the job
做的很好，是的，是的，你是对的 done all right good yeah yeah you're right
有一个比这个更实用一点 there's this one is a little more practical than this one no question all
对，你们还有别的话要说吗？ right do you guys have anything else to say how about say like and like and
订阅并查看我的挑战，就像下一个视频再见一样 subscribe and check out my challenge your query like in the next video bye
再见像我这样的男孩鱼回来了，谢谢男孩整数好，谢谢大家 bye boys like me fish back thanks boys integers okay thanks guys
别忘了在白山刀上使用我的折扣代码锋利的东西 don't forget to use the my discount code sharp stuff over white mountain knives
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